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By GillsHill2013
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Just want to start a conversation on Syria amongst flamefans. I personally don't know what to think because we have Assad killing thousands of Syrians but on the other hand Al Qaeda is strong opposition to Assad and his regime. I feel as though this is a lose lose situation for us.
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By Sly Fox
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GillsHill2013 wrote:I feel as though this is a lose lose situation for us.
I believe that sums up my thoughts completely.
By 4everfsu
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I wish Congress would have the balls to not authorize the strikes against Syria. But they will not.
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By Purple Haize
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There are 2 key components to this IMO. The first is to remember that Russia has its last naval base outside of the Rodina here. Through it they can project power and ship weapons to Assad and others for hard currency. They will not back away. Secondly, Syria has been Israel's biggest threat since Camp David. They have basically annexed Lebanon and supply guns and rockets to any and all who oppose 'The Zionist Entity'. Early on in this conflict the US had an opportunity to strengthen Christian (anyone not Muslim) sects that were much more pro Western. However, the President is the master of inaction, and these groups lost position to the more radical groups you see now.
So you are right. It is now a lose/lose.
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By bballfan84
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i see no need to interfere..we need to stop policing the world. we cant even take care of our own here
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By GillsHill2013
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I agree. With the the rising debt, health care, nsa, irs, etc. I think this is just taking our eye off the ball. Anytime john McCain and Obama agree on something, I'm going to be weary.
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By SumItUp
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GillsHill2013 wrote:I agree. With the the rising debt, health care, nsa, irs, etc. I think this is just taking our eye off the ball. Anytime john McCain and Obama agree on something, I'm going to be weary.
Agreed, you should be wary and weary.
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By jbock13
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The funny thing is, Boehner and Rove probably think this is a brilliant PR move to go along with whatever Obama wants.
By 4everfsu
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If Congress says yes, then no one can try to impeach Obama. Just a thought
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:The funny thing is, Boehner and Rove probably think this is a brilliant PR move to go along with whatever Obama wants.
It's a great strategy! Show we oppose him by agreeing to everything! :D
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By jbock13
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4everfsu wrote:If Congress says yes, then no one can try to impeach Obama. Just a thought
Please tell me you didn't really think Obama was going to be impeached.
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By adam42381
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GillsHill2013 wrote:Listen to Iron Man....

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I'd rather listen to War Pigs...

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By Humble_Opinion
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GillsHill2013 wrote:Well scratch on McCain he's now against Syria.
He's not against Syria... he's against the current resolution because he doesn't think it goes far enough.
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By Purple Haize
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Humble_Opinion wrote:
GillsHill2013 wrote:Well scratch on McCain he's now against Syria.
He's not against Syria... he's against the current resolution because he doesn't think it goes far enough.
So HE was for it before he was against it! :D He wants to Nation Build. Which I'm not opposed to in some instances but am in this one.
By Humble_Opinion
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Once again the hypocrisy of the left in this country is on full display for all to see. It's a shame that no one actually cares enough to hold them accountable for it.
By thepostman
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We should be getting out of this kind of business. We can't afford it anymore.

That is all I will add and really wouldn't be appropriate for me to say more.
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By GillsHill2013
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thepostman wrote:We should be getting out of this kind of business. We can't afford it anymore.

That is all I will add and really wouldn't be appropriate for me to say more.


:clapping keep it simple
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By Purple Haize
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GillsHill2013 wrote:I believe both sides are hypocrites....
Ill take some exception to that. I will grant that almost by definition all politicians are hypocrites, but on this matter its sorta different.
If Nancy Pelosi held the same position for action with Iraq as she now does with Syria, we wouldn't have heard a peep out of her. The reason she, and others on the Left, cite to act in Syria were 10 fold more in Iraq. If she held President Obama to the same standard of International appeal that she wanted from President Bush, she should be raising Cain. But she, and others on the Left, say that what WASN'T acceptable in a worse situation is perfectly reasonable in this situation.
Now, I'm not a Lindsey McCain or John Graham, but at least they are consistent. They want the US to be the World's Policeman and Nation Build. They were consistent with that before as they are now.

And I don't recal anyone saying they voted to support Bush because they didnt want to make him look bad :dontgetit
By From the class of 09
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So correct me if I'm wrong but everything I've read says the rebels are a mismashed group of different factions who control different parts of the country and the most organized of the group is a local flavor of al qaeda. Assad meanwhile has killed a few thousand rebels/civilians (its civil war is there a difference) a few hundred of those probably with chemicals and so now we are going to bomb some of his strategic positions? But only because he used chemical weapons? To help the only organization to directly attack the US on our soil since WW2?

jbock is right, obama is a muslim...
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By Purple Haize
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The ONLY way I would think military action would have been appropriate would have been if we took out his Chemical stockpiles immediately after they were used. But now, according to reports and our Presidents incompetence, Assad has dispersed those stock piles into civilian areas. This means the US has a chance of killing more non combatants eliminating the weapons then the weapons themselves. One of the biggest reasons I didn't vote for Obama is because of his record of voting 'Present' when it came time to pass legislation. If you can't make a decision when you are one voice out of many, you certainly won't be able to make one when yours is the LAST word. We are paying for that lack of ability now more then ever
By ALUmnus
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How come no one is connecting the Saddam/Iraq/WMD/chemical-weapons/Syria dots? Seems to be right in our faces.
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