[Purple Haize]

Our country would be better off if the Moral Majority made a hasty return. Just read the newspaper each day.

As for conferences, I say we should go to the "new Big East"

Too bad Cal Thomas wouldn't be on board

[Liberty22]

http://www.wvgazette.com/Sports/Marshall/201303270297

[Liberty22]

on a side note, if we get offered a football only situation, I think it would be awesome to go in football only and try and get our olympic sports in with the Catholic 7. I mean someone did say they are looking for a baptist school.

[Purple Haize]

on a side note, if we get offered a football only situation, I think it would be awesome to go in football only and try and get our olympic sports in with the Catholic 7. I mean someone did say they are looking for a baptist school.

Yes, but then there are those who feel we should have nothing to do with Catholics and their Pope. So then its back to square one....

[Humble_Opinion]

on a side note, if we get offered a football only situation, I think it would be awesome to go in football only and try and get our olympic sports in with the Catholic 7. I mean someone did say they are looking for a baptist school.

Yes, but then there are those who feel we should have nothing to do with Catholics and their Pope. So then its back to square one....

Ha - PH leave the Catholic vs. Protestant debate drama in the other thread. This one is convoluted enough thanks to you and the rest of your Dark Side cronies.

[ballcoach15]

there is no D1 Baptist Conference, thus religion should not be a factor in any conference expansion activity.

[Purple Haize]

on a side note, if we get offered a football only situation, I think it would be awesome to go in football only and try and get our olympic sports in with the Catholic 7. I mean someone did say they are looking for a baptist school.

Yes, but then there are those who feel we should have nothing to do with Catholics and their Pope. So then its back to square one....

Ha - PH leave the Catholic vs. Protestant debate drama in the other thread. This one is convoluted enough thanks to you and the rest of your Dark Side cronies.

Pound sand you KJV only lush!

[flameshaw]

Being a defacto Republican worshiping institution could fall by the wayside as well and there still wouldn't be a single compromise on core biblical beliefs.

I see your point to some degree. However the GOP does come closest to our beliefs. I am not happy with the GOP at all, but you have to consider that all of the universities we compete against are much more prejudiced towards the Democratic party, and do not allow the other side of the argument to be heard at all. We do have the occasional Ted Kennedy or Bob Beckel and do teach both sides of the evolution debate.
I just don't buy the fact that our views on certain things are keeping us from conference affiliation. I may be wrong, but I also believe when things are right, we will become a member of a IA conference. I do hope it is sooner rather than later, but ....................

[4everfsu]

God knew before the foundations of the world if and when LU would move up, nothing to sweat here. He will allow it in His time.

[TIMSCAR20]

Being a defacto Republican worshiping institution could fall by the wayside as well and there still wouldn't be a single compromise on core biblical beliefs.

I see your point to some degree. However the GOP does come closest to our beliefs. I am not happy with the GOP at all, but you have to consider that all of the universities we compete against are much more prejudiced towards the Democratic party, and do not allow the other side of the argument to be heard at all. We do have the occasional Ted Kennedy or Bob Beckel and do teach both sides of the evolution debate.
I just don't buy the fact that our views on certain things are keeping us from conference affiliation. I may be wrong, but I also believe when things are right, we will become a member of a IA conference. I do hope it is sooner rather than later, but ....................

Somehow I got credit for a line I didn't write I have never used the word Defacto in a sentence. I'm not that smart.

[TH Spangler]

http://www2.wataugademocrat.com/Sports/ ... -id-010945

[logic]

I just don't buy the fact that our views on certain things are keeping us from conference affiliation.

How thick is your bubble? Spend some time in secular academia and you'll buy it quickly.

Think of all the reasons why we were told that we wouldn't get an invite -

1. Lack of a major media market.
2. Outside the SBC footprint.
3. Lack of on field success/product.
4. No "room" as in no spots were available.
5. Reputation (whether you believe it or not, it is out there, quite heavily, their perception is their reality)


Now understand the Sun Belt invited Idaho and JMU before us.

1. Our market is bigger than both Idaho and JMU
2. Footprint goes without saying
3. Idaho is terrible, only JMU beats us here
4. Certainly there is a need for new SBC members
5.


Again..Idaho...Not sure what else you need to know... Sure they're football only, but it seems painfully obvious what is going on when you consider we're 229 miles from Boone, the next closest SBC member, and Idaho is more than 2,000 miles away from their next closest, is terrible, plays in a dome that seats 16,000 (averaged 12,581 last year) and spends 17 million yearly on athletics to our 30+.

Now having said that I still think we'll get an invite as JMU doesn't seem interested and no one else is ready, but to say that our past and present political forays do not have an impact is burying your head deeeeeeep in the sand.


I applaud Chancellor Falwell for coming out and saying this publicly -

Falwell, 50, acknowledged that Liberty’s image continues to be influenced by the legacy of his late father’s political activism. The elder Falwell, who died in May 2007, was a polarizing figure — beloved on the right, despised on the left.

But his son said Liberty has turned a page.

“We’re not the Moral Majority anymore,” Falwell said, referring to the religious conservative movement his father founded. “We’re not a church. Our mission is to educate.”

I find it entirely possible to still "Train Champions For Christ" without the political backlash.

[NotAJerry]

I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that Idaho was picked because they are already FBS. There's no transition to be made. They already have a relationship with the Sun Belt as a previous member. The current Sun Belt commissioner is tossing a bone to a team that got left out in the cold from his previous tenure with the WAC that fell apart. Idaho was not competing against us, or JMU, at all.

JMU, by the way, is increasingly popular in DC so they can count as at least partially in the DC market, especially in Loudoun County which is the wealthiest county in America.

[Wilberforce91]

Even if Liberty toned-down the so-called 'political activism,' we would still face the fact that most of these university presidents would still look down their noses at us. As long as there is a Helms School of Government, a required course on Creation Studies, a Liberty Way that prohibits homosexual activity, and most of our money coming from students studying online, these so-called enlightened academics will not be thrilled with us. Just look at the relationship we have with other Virginia schools. Yes, we want to compete on the highest level like all the big schools, but that doesn't mean we have to look and act just like all the big schools.

[ATrain]

Even if Liberty toned-down the so-called 'political activism,' we would still face the fact that most of these university presidents would still look down their noses at us. As long as there is a Helms School of Government, a required course on Creation Studies, a Liberty Way that prohibits homosexual activity, and most of our money coming from students studying online, these so-called enlightened academics will not be thrilled with us. Just look at the relationship we have with other Virginia schools. Yes, we want to compete on the highest level like all the big schools, but that doesn't mean we have to look and act just like all the big schools.

Actually, the Liberty Way says nothing specifically about homosexual activity. You just can't have sex outside of marriage, period.

[Purple Haize]

This is just like any business. The Idaho example is perfect. What relationships have we cultivated in the last 20 years ? If we are now trying to build those relationships than its a step in the right direction. People don't hate Georgetown or Notre Dame because of their decidedly Catholic bent but these schools have built relationships over the years. BYU was sort of the same way but they too are now more about building relationships than indoor practice facilities. It's hard to get invited to a party if you have either no association with or an adversarial relationship with the party's host. It's why I believe we brought in JB because he is supposed to have those relationships.

[logic]

Yes, we want to compete on the highest level like all the big schools, but that doesn't mean we have to look and act just like all the big schools.

I am getting irritated with posts like these. No one is saying act and look like big schools. It doesn't help you to make that part of your argument as no one is arguing for it. We are saying, let's not treat people we're supposed to love with spiteful, hurtful, and hateful language. Let's not blindly follow a political party that long ago sold out and abandoned true conservatism. Can we find a middle ground between God's laws and enforcing them upon people that don't believe in God, etc? The list goes on and on.

No one is saying secular, no one is saying let's do what FAU did and stomp on the name of Jesus in a classroom. But we also shouldn't be putting the name of a gay person on that piece of paper and stomping on it either. We were outraged when the FAU student was asked to do such a thing. Our "opponents" as we've seen them for the last 40 years feel the same way when we talk about gays as waning to "burn down the white picket fence" and so forth.

Spiritual growth. Education. Arts. Athletics. I don't see why we can't just focus on those four and leave the rest to our graduates.

[adam42381]

It's like Augusta National. You can't buy your way in, you get invited by your friends if you're lucky enough.

[Purple Haize]

You mean not all schools engage in elementary style activities to foster a discussion ? Huh

[Purple Haize]

It's like Augusta National. You can't buy your way in, you get invited by your friends if you're lucky enough.

Are you a member of the Dark Side? If not you should be and if you are you just got promoted

[adam42381]

It's like Augusta National. You can't buy your way in, you get invited by your friends if you're lucky enough.

Are you a member of the Dark Side? If not you should be and if you are you just got promoted

[Purple Haize]

And an extra week of vacation

[adam42381]

Sweet. This week I'm on spring break and now I get next week off as well?!

[TH Spangler]

Yes, we want to compete on the highest level like all the big schools, but that doesn't mean we have to look and act just like all the big schools.

I am getting irritated with posts like these. No one is saying act and look like big schools. It doesn't help you to make that part of your argument as no one is arguing for it. We are saying, let's not treat people we're supposed to love with spiteful, hurtful, and hateful language. Let's not blindly follow a political party that long ago sold out and abandoned true conservatism. Can we find a middle ground between God's laws and enforcing them upon people that don't believe in God, etc? The list goes on and on.

No one is saying secular, no one is saying let's do what FAU did and stomp on the name of Jesus in a classroom. But we also shouldn't be putting the name of a gay person on that piece of paper and stomping on it either. We were outraged when the FAU student was asked to do such a thing. Our "opponents" as we've seen them for the last 40 years feel the same way when we talk about gays as waning to "burn down the white picket fence" and so forth.

Spiritual growth. Education. Arts. Athletics. I don't see why we can't just focus on those four and leave the rest to our graduates.

I hope our nation finds that middle ground!! ... Liberty has done a great job with it!!! .. Though I think popular culture will not stop until they completely destroy acceptance of the Bible as written. Do you think someday Bible believing Pastors will be "required by law" to preform same sex marriages. Will Sunday school teachers that read Bible versus on homosexuality in their class be charged with a hate crimes? I certainly hope not.

I also pray I live in a nation were my Faith doesn't keep my favorite college football team out of a NCAA conference.

[logic]

I also pray I live in a nation where my Faith doesn't keep my favorite college football team out of a NCAA conference.

"We are not a church. Our job is to educate."

-JLFJR


Is it our mission that of a political sounding board or higher education? Isn't it our graduates who are supposed to carry the conservative torch out into the wilds and hinterlands upon graduation from Old LU?