[DB89]

Jesus likes it when we unite in His love. That is why Jesus taught us to pray, "Our Father.."

That sounds so beautiful. Don't see how it applies here. And God can only be Father if we're adopted as sons. And according to the RCC, you're not.

Do you mean like thirty years ago when the fundamentalists asserted we were not brothers because someone had hair over their ears, went to the movies, danced or enjoyed a certain style of music?

[Purple Haize]

Jesus likes it when we unite in His love. That is why Jesus taught us to pray, "Our Father.."

That sounds so beautiful. Don't see how it applies here. And God can only be Father if we're adopted as sons. And according to the RCC, you're not.

Do you mean like thirty years ago when the fundamentalists asserted we were not brothers because someone had hair over their ears, went to the movies, danced or enjoyed a certain style of music?

No more like Pentacostals saying that you can't go to Heaven without the gift of the Holy Spirit I.e. speaking in tongues.

[ATrain]

Acutally PH, the Baptist church I attend believes in speaking in tongues

[Purple Haize]

Acutally PH, the Baptist church I attend believes in speaking in tongues

As a requisite for entry into heaven?

[ATrain]

Acutally PH, the Baptist church I attend believes in speaking in tongues

As a requisite for entry into heaven?

No...but they believe its a gift that's still here. I haven't witnessed any spontaneous outbursts in service however.

[Purple Haize]

Acutally PH, the Baptist church I attend believes in speaking in tongues

As a requisite for entry into heaven?

No...but they believe its a gift that's still here. I haven't witnessed any spontaneous outbursts in service however.

My point is that there are several Pentacostal sects who feel that speaking in tongues is a prerequisite for being saved.

[ATrain]

And what scripture do they base that off of?

[Purple Haize]

And what scripture do they base that off of?

It doesn't really matter. It's what I grew up in and their reading of Acts was screwy then and screwy now. I mean don't we all need a prayer language? In code? That way Satan can't understand our conversation.

[ALUmnus]

Pentacostal sects

key words

[Purple Haize]

Pentacostal sects

key words

...of Protestants. That should have been in the remainder of my sentence

[Purple Haize]

What an arrogant basterd

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... nders.html

[Humble_Opinion]

PH - haha too much...

I also found this. Apparently it's going to be introduced by Pope Francis in a documentary to be released?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rgery.html

[ALUmnus]

Because this was so much fun the first time around....
But seriously, Challies reinforces the point I was making.

http://www.challies.com/articles/the-humble-pope#more

small snippet

What is humility? Humility, in the words of Wayne Mack, “consists in an attitude wherein we recognize our own insignificance and unworthiness before God and attribute to Him the supreme honor, praise, prerogatives, rights, privileges, worship, devotion, authority, submission, and obedience that He alone deserves. It also involves a natural, habitual tendency to think and behave in a manner that appropriately expresses this attitude.” Mack gets straight to the heart of humility when he shows that it is expressed before God before it is expressed before man. Humility before others must grow out of humility before God. If we are fundamentally proud before God, we simply cannot be humble before man.

Like any of us, Pope Francis can only be humble—truly humble—if he first attributes to God “the supreme honor, praise, prerogatives, rights, privileges, worship, devotion, authority, submission, and obedience that He alone deserves.” Yet Roman Catholic doctrine, and especially doctrine related to the papacy, steals from the honor, rights, prerogatives and authority of Jesus Christ and attributes them instead to the Pope. By definition and by Catholic dogma, Francis is no humble Pope.

[Purple Haize]

You may be confusing the Position with the Person

[ALUmnus]

He's not a person anymore, he's the Pope, practically divine.

[flamehunter]

First time he lets someone come up and kiss his ring or his feet or whatever they do, he's lost all sense of practical humility.