[SumItUp]

Ahhhh, the line of hungry attorneys is growing.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Once you get over the shock, you will find the Big Ten to be an entertaining league to follow. Just expect everything to be covered in rust.

And a better league, both in football and basketball.

[NotAJerry]

BTW, if UConn is the team that the ACC poaches to replace UMD, that makes Louisville, South Florida and Cincinnati the longest tenured football teams in the Big East. All 3 joined in 2005.

[bluedevilflame]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1414 ... ng-the-acc
http://tracking.si.com/2012/11/19/uconn ... t=cf_t2_a5

UConn to the ACC sounds like its happening, rumors around Lousiville as well. The Big East is in biiiiig trouble.

[lynchburgwildcats]

I think Maryland is way better off in the Big 10. Big 10 is 100% stable and will always be one of the top conferences. Or at least viewed that way. Which is what is important.

It depends on which sport you look at. Maryland pretty much owns lacrosse, field hockey, and soccer right now. Basketball is on the quick rise and football would've won the ACC in the next two years. Not sure how this is a good thing yet. Like Sly said, maybe once the shock wears off but I do not see this as a good thing.

No one cares about lacrosse, field hockey, and soccer in this realignment mess. It's football first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, basketball sixth if even that, everything else unimportant.

[NotAJerry]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1414 ... ng-the-acc
http://tracking.si.com/2012/11/19/uconn ... t=cf_t2_a5

UConn to the ACC sounds like its happening, rumors around Lousiville as well. The Big East is in biiiiig trouble.

Not sure if it's in big trouble, they'll likely just add UMass to replace UConn and ECU/Southern Miss to replace Rutgers and Louisville. The big issue is what happens when the Big East TV deals come up, basketball after this year and football after next, and the money they get for each. I'm guessing we'll see them sign with NBCSN for basketball and a year later for football with the two deals synced to expire at the same time. The fact that NBCSN needs programming, and CBSSN does as well, puts them in a position to negotiate well despite the schools they've lost.

[NotAJerry]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... be_in.html

Georgia Tech in the mix for the B1G? The ACC needs to be very careful to avoid becoming perceived as poachees instead of poachers.

[bluedevilflame]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... be_in.html

Georgia Tech in the mix for the B1G? The ACC needs to be very careful to avoid becoming perceived as poachees instead of poachers.

The way to stop this is for the ACC to go after Penn St, they're the easiest targets and have always been outsiders in the league since joining, maybe not as much now but I still think in the wake of the Sandusky scandal, they'd be open..

[bluedevilflame]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1414 ... ng-the-acc
http://tracking.si.com/2012/11/19/uconn ... t=cf_t2_a5

UConn to the ACC sounds like its happening, rumors around Lousiville as well. The Big East is in biiiiig trouble.

Not sure if it's in big trouble, they'll likely just add UMass to replace UConn and ECU/Southern Miss to replace Rutgers and Louisville. The big issue is what happens when the Big East TV deals come up, basketball after this year and football after next, and the money they get for each. I'm guessing we'll see them sign with NBCSN for basketball and a year later for football with the two deals synced to expire at the same time. The fact that NBCSN needs programming, and CBSSN does as well, puts them in a position to negotiate well despite the schools they've lost.

I honestly think the Big East will split and fall apart now. The basketball schools need to form their own conference and the football theirs, the Big East is such a mess and I don't see any team that's left out there will help them survive. Boise State and San Diego St, while good programs, make them look desperate and opened them to the pouching they've dealt with. If it weren't for the money and exposure, I kind of wish LU would get into CAA or SoCon and be done with it, FBS is become the haves vs the have nots.

[Kricket]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... be_in.html

Georgia Tech in the mix for the B1G? The ACC needs to be very careful to avoid becoming perceived as poachees instead of poachers.

The way to stop this is for the ACC to go after Penn St, they're the easiest targets and have always been outsiders in the league since joining, maybe not as much now but I still think in the wake of the Sandusky scandal, they'd be open..

This is pretty funny.

[El Scorcho]

The NCAA should mandate a single national conference with geographic divisions.

[From the class of 09]

What the heck does the B1G want to do with Maryland and Rutgers? They have huge markets but can't even fill their stadiums because no one cares. If they want to expand they should've went south; Clemson, FSU, even VT This does nothing but dilute the B1G.

[bluedevilflame]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... be_in.html

Georgia Tech in the mix for the B1G? The ACC needs to be very careful to avoid becoming perceived as poachees instead of poachers.

The way to stop this is for the ACC to go after Penn St, they're the easiest targets and have always been outsiders in the league since joining, maybe not as much now but I still think in the wake of the Sandusky scandal, they'd be open..

This is pretty funny.

I don't think so, I think Penn State would be a better fit in the ACC than they've ever been in the B1G. Remember, Paterno (not that he's a factor anymore, all due respect) always wanted to be in an east coast conference and they always felt alienated by the their proximity to other B1G schools

I wouldn't count it out of the realm of possibilities.

Obviously having Maryland and Rutgers join the conference helps this out, but is it too little too late? It's being talked about now about the ACC and Penn State by fans and websites all overhttp://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootb ... bring.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1332 ... ove-to-acc

http://www.centredaily.com/2012/08/17/3 ... -more.html

[NotAJerry]

What the heck does the B1G want to do with Maryland and Rutgers? They have huge markets but can't fill even fill their stadium because no one cares. If they want to expand they should've went south; Clemson, FSU, even VT This does nothing but dilute the B1G.

AAU standards for one. The B1G values academics and footprint more than football in their expansion efforts.

Maryland has struggled the last year or two due to the way they got rid of Friedgen and the fact that they're rarely a good program. Add BTN and Under Armour money and they have a chance to develop into something.

[jbock13]

Which is it NAJ? Does the Big ten stink, or is it good?

I agree with 09's analysis.

[Kricket]

I don't think so, I think Penn State would be a better fit in the ACC than they've ever been in the B1G. Remember, Paterno (not that he's a factor anymore, all due respect) always wanted to be in an east coast conference and they always felt alienated by the their proximity to other B1G schools

I wouldn't count it out of the realm of possibilities.

Obviously having Maryland and Rutgers join the conference helps this out, but is it too little too late? It's being talked about now about the ACC and Penn State by fans and websites all overhttp://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootb ... bring.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1332 ... ove-to-acc

http://www.centredaily.com/2012/08/17/3 ... -more.html

Sure, but why would Penn State do that financially, academically, or athletically?

[lynchburgwildcats]

What the heck does the B1G want to do with Maryland and Rutgers? They have huge markets but can't even fill their stadiums because no one cares. If they want to expand they should've went south; Clemson, FSU, even VT This does nothing but dilute the B1G.

I read that Big Ten Network subscription money is projected to increase by over $100 million with the addition of the geographic markets of Maryland and New York/New Jersey. That's no small chunk of change.

[NotAJerry]

I don't think so, I think Penn State would be a better fit in the ACC than they've ever been in the B1G. Remember, Paterno (not that he's a factor anymore, all due respect) always wanted to be in an east coast conference and they always felt alienated by the their proximity to other B1G schools

I wouldn't count it out of the realm of possibilities.

Obviously having Maryland and Rutgers join the conference helps this out, but is it too little too late? It's being talked about now about the ACC and Penn State by fans and websites all overhttp://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootb ... bring.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1332 ... ove-to-acc

http://www.centredaily.com/2012/08/17/3 ... -more.html

Sure, but why would Penn State do that financially, academically, or athletically?

Throw in Maryland giving them back an old football rival and it makes more sense for PSU to be in the B1G now than it has at any time.

[4everfsu]

Yes, Maryland can go back to being PSU's whipping boy on a annual schedule.

[bluedevilflame]

I don't think so, I think Penn State would be a better fit in the ACC than they've ever been in the B1G. Remember, Paterno (not that he's a factor anymore, all due respect) always wanted to be in an east coast conference and they always felt alienated by the their proximity to other B1G schools

I wouldn't count it out of the realm of possibilities.

Obviously having Maryland and Rutgers join the conference helps this out, but is it too little too late? It's being talked about now about the ACC and Penn State by fans and websites all overhttp://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootb ... bring.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1332 ... ove-to-acc

http://www.centredaily.com/2012/08/17/3 ... -more.html

Sure, but why would Penn State do that financially, academically, or athletically?

Academically it'd be a no brainer with schools like Duke, UNC, Wake, BC, Georgia Teach and UVA. Financially...I'll get back to you. Athletically, they'd be straight to the top 3 in the conference in no time flat, especially after their sanctions end, they've already survived year one pretty well, 3 more to go. The biggest reason above all that I could see them bolting would be the Sandusky scandal. A.) The B1G were the first ones to throw PSU under the bus and didn't do much in the way of supporting the school through that nightmare and
B.) To get a fresh start after fiasco in the football office. PSU will always live with the Sandusky scandal, but where's it going to be forgot the most in ten years, the ACC or the B1G?

First and foremost, the Sandusky scandal was horrendous and he will answer for his actions both here and after he dies. Paterno is a legendary coach who didn't stand up for what was right and his legacy will always be tarnished. The ACC is a fresh start and if anyone needs it, PSU does.

[NotAJerry]

I don't think so, I think Penn State would be a better fit in the ACC than they've ever been in the B1G. Remember, Paterno (not that he's a factor anymore, all due respect) always wanted to be in an east coast conference and they always felt alienated by the their proximity to other B1G schools

I wouldn't count it out of the realm of possibilities.

Obviously having Maryland and Rutgers join the conference helps this out, but is it too little too late? It's being talked about now about the ACC and Penn State by fans and websites all overhttp://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootb ... bring.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1332 ... ove-to-acc

http://www.centredaily.com/2012/08/17/3 ... -more.html

Sure, but why would Penn State do that financially, academically, or athletically?

Academically it'd be a no brainer with schools like Duke, UNC, Wake, BC, Georgia Teach and UVA.

Take a look at the AAU rankings for colleges and get back to me on that. Academics is not an advantage for the ACC over the B1G. Nebraska caught some flack for losing AAU status shortly after joining the B1G. If PSU were to choose the ACC over B1G for academics then they do have no brains.

https://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476

[NotAJerry]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ources-say

The Big East basketball only schools need to break off right now.

Boise, SDSU and BYU going back to the MWC could make that into a pretty good conference again really soon.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Louisville about the only competent two way sport school left in the Big East. Louisville AD Ton Jurich better be ringing the phones of the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, hell even the PAC 12. They are quickly being relegated to mid major conference status like they virtually were in before they joined the Big East. Not sure they are going to offer a whole lot financially to any conference though. Smaller media market in a media market dominated by fans of another school. Don't have a "national" brand in any sport like Notre Dame in football or Duke/UNC/UK basketball. Football team is good this year, but consistently never anything much more than mid-tier bowl status. Maybe they are on the upswing for good, but would they be a consistent BCS bowl threat if they played ina league that was worth two craps? They couldn't when WVU was in the Big East, and you see how well that has worked out with their move to the Big 12. Good basketball team obviously, but these decisions just aren't made about basketball.

[Purple Haize]

Duke Edsall, enough said.

FIFY

[NotAJerry]

Here's a guess about how this breaks down in the next few months/year. UVA and UNC to the B1G as they continue the Eastern movement of the footprint with VA Tech and NC State to the SEC as they move their footprint north. If UMD gets the $50 million successfully challenged, then the floodgates may open on ACC teams getting poached by those with better TV deals.