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By Rooster Cogburn
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#405266
I believe it would be a case of 0-4 and time to build for the future and at the same time feeling confident with his abilities in the BSC schedule ahead.

I will step out and predict that Josh is going to take off and be big time by the time Stoney Brook rolls into town. He has big potential, but needs some time to work in game situations on his reads, etc.
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By Sly Fox
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#405268
The numbers make the choice fairly easy. And then when you factor in the possibility of Woodrum being here for 3 more years after this one, the choice was rather easy.
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PASSING 	GP-GS 	Effic 	Cmp-Att-Int 	Pct 	Yards 	 TD 	Long 	Avg/G 
WOODRUM, Josh 	 4-2  	140.1 	58-79-3 	73.4 	581 	3 	35 	145.2 
HUDSON, Brian 	 4-2  	126.7 	33-60-1 	55.0 	418 	3 	47 	104.5 
Of course, Brian has shown he can get the job done and it would be conceivable that he could earn the job back. Whichever player can protect the ball the best will likely get more playing time moving forward.
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By NotAJerry
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#405272
Not ticked off, but it's interesting that Sly leaves out the INT stat. Also leaves out the part where Hudson played the tougher competition.

Woodrum is the wrong QB to win with right now, but it's pretty clear that Gill is throwing in the towel on this season and trying to build for the next 3 years. Hopefully Woodrum starts making much better reads and stops staring down his receivers soon as he's got very good potential. Until then it's going to continue to be the turnover fest it's been the last two games.
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By NotAJerry
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#405276
Didn't notice them hidden with completions/attempts instead of being listed by the TDs where they belong. The point still stands that this team needs to be able to protect the ball, and thus keep the defense off the field, instead of turning it over if they want to have a shot at winning the BSC. Woodrum isn't that guy right now.
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By BJWilliams
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#405279
INTs has always been listed with completions and attempts. If you look at just about every college when you read their football stats, INTs are listed with completions and attempts
By Chippy
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#405280
Josh is the right person to lead the team forward. Interceptions and TOs are part of the game. It's a matter of limiting them and limiting the pick 6s especially. We've already had a season's worth on TOs turned into TDs. I also like Brian Hudson as the backup. He'll be much better than Tyler Brennan backing up Mike Brown. May I add Mike Brown, as a senior threw 10 interceptions and fumbled at least 7 or 8 times.

Josh Woodrum will do just fine.
By flamehunter
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#405281
Woodrum has all the tools, just needs experience and a level head. And for a R-Fr, his head seems pretty level already. And I don't see this as throwing in the towel. At worst Hudson and Woodrum are dead even.
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By R i
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#405286
I was impressed with how he took ownership of those bad throws against Lehigh, even some of the fall starts he admitted were his fault. Thats the kind of guy that can lead a team.
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By NotAJerry
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BJWilliams wrote:INTs has always been listed with completions and attempts. If you look at just about every college when you read their football stats, INTs are listed with completions and attempts
And if you look at any meaningful stat service, TDs and INTs are listed together. It's standard procedure for every stat service I know of.
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By NotAJerry
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#405288
BJWilliams wrote:INTs has always been listed with completions and attempts. If you look at just about every college when you read their football stats, INTs are listed with completions and attempts
And if you look at any meaningful stat service, TDs and INTs are listed together. It's standard procedure for every stat service I know of.
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By BJWilliams
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#405294
Well this is pointless minutiae, where is the proper place to put the INT stat...anyway, Coach Gill and his staff felt that Josh was the better option at QB going forward, and they obviously didnt need our input on the matter. I would have supported them either way.
By bradyfan
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#405296
NotAJerry wrote:Didn't notice them hidden with completions/attempts instead of being listed by the TDs where they belong. The point still stands that this team needs to be able to protect the ball, and thus keep the defense off the field, instead of turning it over if they want to have a shot at winning the BSC. Woodrum isn't that guy right now.

Brett Favre broke interception records and was great. Tebow doesn't turn the ball over and he sucks. INT's don't define QB's.
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By adam42381
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NotAJerry wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:INTs has always been listed with completions and attempts. If you look at just about every college when you read their football stats, INTs are listed with completions and attempts
And if you look at any meaningful stat service, TDs and INTs are listed together. It's standard procedure for every stat service I know of.
NAJ is a lost cause. Even when he's wrong, he still claims to be right. Shouldn't we be comparing ourselves to the top programs in the nation? It seems that they don't care what is standard procedure at whatever stat services you use.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl ... l#TEAM.IND
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footb ... l#TEAM.IND
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml ... =205679319
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/stat ... l#TEAM.IND
http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-foo ... l#TEAM.IND
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By jinxy
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#405318
Hudson had 2 killer turnovers that lost games 1 and 2 , i dont get that beef at all. The weaker comp argument is stupid too. 100 percent behind gill on this for a ton of reasons
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