[belcherboy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... 30400.html

[4everfsu]

Don't need to read the article, who published it says alot

[RubberMallet]

this meatball will only go after the low hanging fruit. a read an article from a guy who assisted in his movie religulous that more than often, he got annialated in his discussions. none of that ever made his movie.

[Cider Jim]

Don't waste 5 minutes reading it; use the 5 minutes praying for his soul.

[Humble_Opinion]

The clip is pretty grotesque to say the least... I watched it this morning and couldn't believe what I was listening to and then I remembered whom it was coming from.

[LUconn]

Much as conservatives believe gay marriage cheapens their own vows, "I think a diploma from Liberty cheapens my diploma from a real school,"

Wait, so does that mean gay marriage does cheapen our vows or is Liberty a real school since he doesn't believe the former? Nice analogy doofus.

[Purple Haize]

As a comedian I don't find him amusing
As a political commentator I find him irrelevant
As a theologian I find him unqualified
So guess if I even saw the clip?

[JK37]

Remember, if they're not saying anything about you, you're probably not working hard enough. I think stuff like this is GOOD for Liberty University, because no fan of the show is going to be changed by it, and it puts LU at the forefront of the minds of those whose views oppose the agreeing viewers

[TallyW]

Bill Maher is an ignorant man.

At the 3:55 mark of his argument against Liberty he says:
"Sorry, but our Constitution wasn't divinely inspired. It's just that the guys who wrote it were smart because they went to real colleges. Thomas Jefferson went to William and Mary, Madison went to Princeton and Alexander Hamilton went to Columbia."

Maher and others like him claim to wear the intellectual hat in order to gain humor via their condescending tone. The problem is that when they're proven to be ignorant they simply throw on their comedian hat. With this two-faced approach they can give angry commentary posing as a liberal intellectual while never having to face the fact that they're not as intellectual as they want the world to believe. The truth is that when the founders attended these colleges, they were all colleges designed specifically to train theologians. Later these colleges drifted from their initial purpose to become the bastions of liberalism that Maher and his peers like to celebrate today. I took a few minutes to look up information directly from each college's respective website. The following is what they say about themselves:

"Thomas Jefferson went to William and Mary"
The Royal charter of W&M "Forasmuch as our well-beloved and faithful subjects, con- stituting the General Assembly of our Colony of Virginia, have had it in their minds, and have proposed to themselves, to the end that the Church of Virginia may be furnished with a seminary of ministers of the gospel, and that the youth may be piously educated in good letters and manners, and that the Christian faith may be propagated amongst the Western Indians, to the glory of Almighty God;" (http://www.wm.edu/about/history/index.php)

"Madison went to Princeton"
The principles on which Princeton University was founded may be traced to the Log College in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, founded by William Tennent in 1726. Tennent was a Presbyterian minister who, along with fellow evangelists Theodorus Jacobus Frelinghuysen, Jonathan Edwards, Samuel Davies, and George Whitefield of England, preached and taught an approach to religion and life that was the very essence of the Great Awakening period. The seven founders of the College of New Jersey were all Presbyterians, with Ebenezer Pemberton, a minister and a graduate of Harvard, the only one of the seven who did not graduate from Yale. The remaining six included Jonathan Dickinson, Aaron Burr Sr., and John Pierson, who were ministers; William Smith, a lawyer; Peter Van Brugh Livingston, a merchant; and William Peartree Smith. (http://www.princeton.edu/mudd/news/faq/ ... ders.shtml)


"Alexander Hamilton went to Columbia"
Actually, Hamilton went to "Kings College" between 1774 and 1776. Kings was later renamed Columbia. The following timeline from Columbia's own website shows who founded the University and for what purposes.

1753
May 14 -- Trinity Church conditions its offer of land on assurances that college president would always be an Anglican and that official religious services use Anglican liturgy
May 16 -- Lottery Commission accepted Trinity Church conditions on land
November 22 -- Lottery Commission appointed Samuel Johnson as president of new college; a Massachusetts Congregationalist minister, Chauncey Whittesley, appointed as second master; Assembly withholding lottery funds for what its critics calling an "Anglican seminary"
1754
May 31 -- Advertisement for the College of New York published in the New York Gazette by President Johnson; stressed that college welcoming all Protestant Christians
July 17 -- Classes began in rectory of school attached to Trinity Church on Rector Street; eight matriculants; Samuel Johnson did all the teaching (http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/learn ... cutime.htm)

[flamesfilmguy]

Bill Maher is an ignorant man.

At the 3:55 mark of his argument against Liberty he says:
"Sorry, but our Constitution wasn't divinely inspired. It's just that the guys who wrote it were smart because they went to real colleges. Thomas Jefferson went to William and Mary, Madison went to Princeton and Alexander Hamilton went to Columbia."

Maher and others like him claim to wear the intellectual hat in order to gain humor via their condescending tone. The problem is that when they're proven to be ignorant they simply throw on their comedian hat. With this two-faced approach they can give angry commentary posing as a liberal intellectual while never having to face the fact that they're not as intellectual as they want the world to believe. The truth is that when the founders attended these colleges, they were all colleges designed specifically to train theologians. Later these colleges drifted from their initial purpose to become the bastions of liberalism that Maher and his peers like to celebrate today. I took a few minutes to look up information directly from each college's respective website. The following is what they say about themselves:

"Thomas Jefferson went to William and Mary"
The Royal charter of W&M "Forasmuch as our well-beloved and faithful subjects, con- stituting the General Assembly of our Colony of Virginia, have had it in their minds, and have proposed to themselves, to the end that the Church of Virginia may be furnished with a seminary of ministers of the gospel, and that the youth may be piously educated in good letters and manners, and that the Christian faith may be propagated amongst the Western Indians, to the glory of Almighty God;" (http://www.wm.edu/about/history/index.php)

"Madison went to Princeton"
The principles on which Princeton University was founded may be traced to the Log College in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, founded by William Tennent in 1726. Tennent was a Presbyterian minister who, along with fellow evangelists Theodorus Jacobus Frelinghuysen, Jonathan Edwards, Samuel Davies, and George Whitefield of England, preached and taught an approach to religion and life that was the very essence of the Great Awakening period. The seven founders of the College of New Jersey were all Presbyterians, with Ebenezer Pemberton, a minister and a graduate of Harvard, the only one of the seven who did not graduate from Yale. The remaining six included Jonathan Dickinson, Aaron Burr Sr., and John Pierson, who were ministers; William Smith, a lawyer; Peter Van Brugh Livingston, a merchant; and William Peartree Smith. (http://www.princeton.edu/mudd/news/faq/ ... ders.shtml)


"Alexander Hamilton went to Columbia"
Actually, Hamilton went to "Kings College" between 1774 and 1776. Kings was later renamed Columbia. The following timeline from Columbia's own website shows who founded the University and for what purposes.

1753
May 14 -- Trinity Church conditions its offer of land on assurances that college president would always be an Anglican and that official religious services use Anglican liturgy
May 16 -- Lottery Commission accepted Trinity Church conditions on land
November 22 -- Lottery Commission appointed Samuel Johnson as president of new college; a Massachusetts Congregationalist minister, Chauncey Whittesley, appointed as second master; Assembly withholding lottery funds for what its critics calling an "Anglican seminary"
1754
May 31 -- Advertisement for the College of New York published in the New York Gazette by President Johnson; stressed that college welcoming all Protestant Christians
July 17 -- Classes began in rectory of school attached to Trinity Church on Rector Street; eight matriculants; Samuel Johnson did all the teaching (http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/learn ... cutime.htm)

You should email this to him haha well done.

[ATrain]

I'm guessing the Commonwealth of Virginia doesn't consider Liberty a real school. I've been with the state for 3 years, until very recently was the youngest assistant supervisor in our agency, currently the only assistant supervisor to have switched offices as a direct result of promotion, received state and federal commendation for my work.

So I guess the 6 years I spent were for nothing, and the work I do is fake.

[flamesfilmguy]

I got accepted into the second largest State university in Georgia for grad school with my "Fake" degree.
Its ok I just got my masters from Georgia State therefore i have one "Fake" degree and one "Real" one right?

[jmdickens]

Lol....Maher received his B.A. in HISTORY from Cornell. Guess he was asleep when his professors covered the History of American Education. That must explain why he couldn't get into one of the real Ivy league schools.

[JLFJR]

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-liberty ... 2415.story

Maher is a comedian whose words aren't meant to be taken seriously, and he's proven by his parody, once again, that they shouldn't be. Unfortunately, though, some people do take the man seriously and will likely be deceived by his false statements.

In reality, Liberty is a fully accredited liberal-arts university. With over 90,000 students, it is the largest private, nonprofit university in America, the largest university in Virginia, and maintains more than 275 programs of study, including a fully-accredited School of Law, and a forthcoming School of Medicine.

The same science textbooks are used at Liberty that are used at other major universities. Liberty teaches the theory of evolution as well as the Biblical account of creation (including that the universe could have been created with the appearance of age just as the first man and woman were created as adults) and students make up their own minds on the issue.

Liberty is proudly an institution that adheres to the Judeo-Christian values upon which our nation was founded and upon which millions of Christians have based their lives and beliefs. It is sad that Obama donors like Maher seem to fear debating the issues on the merits and instead resort to ridiculing their opponents deceitfully.

[JLFJR]

Great work, TallyW! Don't be surprised if I quote you!

[Cider Jim]

I wrote the quote below on the wall of one our Honors alumni's Facebook pages:

Interestingly enough, Maher's alma mater, Cornell University, accepted two LU biology majors into their Ivy League PhD program: one is still there, and the other, Gary Isaacs, finished his PhD and now teaches biology at LU.

Also, Liberty's Honors students have been accepted into 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools for graduate study--Yale (twice), Cornell (twice), Columbia, Penn, and Brown.

Last year, we had an Honors student accepted into graduate schools at Johns Hopkins and Georgetown, and this year we had another student accepted on half scholarship to law school at William & Mary, but she chose Regent instead, because she wanted to continue her Christian education there.

Lastly, just this semester, we had an Honors student accepted to 3 of the top vet schools in the country--NC State (#3), VA Tech, and Tennessee; after much prayer, she chose Tech.

[Hold My Own]

Great work, TallyW! Don't be surprised if I quote you!

Dont do that!!!!! He didnt use Wikipedia!!!!

[Rooster Cogburn]

Tally and CJ, I'm quoting you. JFLJR agree 100%. The man is eaten up with hate and is not funny at all. I love how we as Christians are slammed for even the slightest departure from fact, but he has facts all messed up and noone will call him on it.

[jcmanson]

after much prayer, she chose Tech.

Something here doesn't fit

[Humble_Opinion]

This sort of rhetoric will only get worse in the coming years. I hope that our graduates and current alumni continue to live by the motto that "If it's Christian - it ought to be better." We hear that mentioned probably 20 times a year at least, but it is absolutely paramount to one's future success.
The one aspect that continues to draw me to this UNIVERSITY is that we don't simply seek to train men and women in the Word alone, but we couple that training with other disciplines. Whether it be business, law, engineering, medicine, or education. Never before, have we needed men and women of faith to be experts in their field and in the word more than today.

[Rooster Cogburn]

And from a guy whose been out on other athletics message boards since the FBS presser, there is a TON of LU hate and dismissal. When we get an invite and move, it will get worse still. When we go to their stadiums for games, we will have to be ready.

[Cider Jim]

Another gauge of how academically strong a university is regards how many National Merit Finalists a school has (these students scored in the top half of the top 1% on the PSAT taken their junior year in high school).

This fall, LU will accept 26 new National Merit Finalists, to combine with 29 returning National Merit Finalists for a total of 55 National Merit Finalists on a full academic ride at LU--and, yes, many of these students are also on the LU Debate and Quiz Bowl teams.

In addition, LU has created a new full tuition scholarship for the fall for National Merit Commended students (top 3-4% on the PSAT), and we will have a total of 36 of those for the fall, 11 new students and 25 returning students.

All that is to say, LU has some of brightest Christian students on the planet, including 637 Honors Program students (which is a larger number than the number of student-athletes on campus).

[Purple Haize]

Seriously? You guys are still talking about this? His ego is fed on this type of discussion. He's an azzhat move on. (.org. Lol)

[jbock13]

Seriously? You guys are still talking about this? His ego is fed on this type of discussion. He's an azzhat move on. (.org. Lol)

Bingo.

[TallyW]

Great work, TallyW! Don't be surprised if I quote you!

Feel free. http://tallywilgis.com/2012/05/joke_on_maher/