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By jcmanson
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The best VA Tech can ever be in the ACC in basketball is 5th place.

Duke
Carolina
Syracuse
Pitt

Then there's a few more teams "more attractive" than Tech:
Ga Tech
Maryland
Wake Forest
UVA
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By jcmanson
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#388910
R i wrote:Paycheck for one.
The guys' I'm talking about not wanting that job (Marshall, Shaka, etc.) are not jumping for the paycheck alone. They've already proven that.
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By jcmanson
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:But Marshall is from Roanoke. I think he would come for this one.
It's not happening. I don't care if he went to VT. VT basketball is a mess right now.
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By flameshaw
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Maybe he will visit Tech, accept the job, then on the way back to Shocker Land decide he wants to stay there after all. I've heard of it being done before. :roll: :D
By Bigsouthking
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jcmanson wrote:The best VA Tech can ever be in the ACC in basketball is 5th place.

Duke
Carolina
Syracuse
Pitt

Then there's a few more teams "more attractive" than Tech:
Ga Tech
Maryland
Wake Forest
UVA
You forgot NC State, they just made sweet 16 and are top 10-15 starting next year...

The Tech job is down the list with Miami, BC, Clemson. Bottom 3rd for sure.
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By jcmanson
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Bigsouthking wrote:
jcmanson wrote:The best VA Tech can ever be in the ACC in basketball is 5th place.

Duke
Carolina
Syracuse
Pitt

Then there's a few more teams "more attractive" than Tech:
Ga Tech
Maryland
Wake Forest
UVA
You forgot NC State, they just made sweet 16 and are top 10-15 starting next year...

The Tech job is down the list with Miami, BC, Clemson. Bottom 3rd for sure.
Yep, I definitely missed them. Best Tech can hope for is 6th.
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By bigsmooth
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VT is a football school and will be for the forseeable future. Its just like UNC in football as soon as they lose a few games the fan base is like when does basketball start?. i talked to a hokie fan at work yesterday and told him greenberg got fired and he said "who is he?"..we all know the VT fan base is all about football and that's it except for the hardcore total sports fan there. With all of that said, GM will be a top candidate and that is totally a step up from WSU no matter if VT is a lower tier ACC job. Not many big names out there i feel would want that job.
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By prototype
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jcmanson wrote:The best VA Tech can ever be in the ACC in basketball is 5th place.

Duke
Carolina
Syracuse
Pitt

Then there's a few more teams "more attractive" than Tech:
Ga Tech
Maryland
Wake Forest
UVA
And what happens when you get better than them? Do you think Football Teams would jump from the SEC just because they might not win it every year? It's the ACC... And it's basketball... Comparing WSU and VCU to an ACC job is like comparing Ronaoke, VA to New York City.
By JK37
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
Rooster Cogburn wrote:All his assistants left recently but 1. I think something is up.
VA Tech has a ton of turnover in basketball assistants. Them leaving is nothing new.
And the reasons they kept leaving and the residual effects of it are a big reason this move was made.
By JK37
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The Wichita State job is better than VT, hands down! Have any of you even been there for a game? It is THE biggest show in town. And it's BIG on any scale. This cannot be considered by conference comparison. Plus, GM's ego can't be handled or coddled at VT. He meh use it to get an even bigger deal at WSU, but this doesn't go any further than that.
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By prototype
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JK37 wrote:The Wichita State job is better than VT, hands down! Have any of you even been there for a game? It is THE biggest show in town. And it's BIG on any scale. This cannot be considered by conference comparison. Plus, GM's ego can't be handled or coddled at VT. He meh use it to get an even bigger deal at WSU, but this doesn't go any further than that.
Being the biggest Show in town is nothing compared to be an elite coach at an elite program. Answer this - Would either of the following coaches take the WSU job if GM left - Coach K, Calipari, Pitino, Self, Donovan, Crean, Izzo, Williams, Matta, Barnes, or Huggins. Do you really think that a coach wouldn't want to eventually be on this list? He's not getting on here coaching at WSU. VT is VT, but VT is much closer to this list then WSU.
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By jcmanson
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prototype wrote:Comparing WSU and VCU to an ACC job is like comparing Ronaoke, VA to New York City.
No it's not. Shaka has already turned down one ACC job and that job was much better than VT. Marshall could get a much better job than VT. And he's not one to jump at his first opportunity.
By ALUmnus
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Wow, I agree with Manson. Sure, Tech is in the ACC, technically (see what I did there?). But does anyone really consider it an ACC school? And I mean other than Hokie fans and the state legislature. Vtech has never had the perception of an ACC program. It never had the perception of being a Big East program. They're good at football. Other than that, it's the school where a bunch of kids got shot (not trying to be insensative). They play with the big boys, but they're not one.
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By BJWilliams
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Suffice to say, Tech is more of a job that you might find an assistant taking if they want to step up to the head job. Thing is, you probably wont find the top of the top assistants in that position blowing up AD Weaver's phone inquiring about it.
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By Cider Jim
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jcmanson wrote: And he's not one to jump at his first opportunity.
But McKay is.

Would anyone disagree that he took the UVa assistant's job to gain enough ACC experience and exposure to turn it into an ACC head coaching job? Play Basketball
By Bigsouthking
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Prototype -- your wrong....

JCManson -- is right...

Guys-- GM and Shaka are not leaving their jobs for VT! Wichita and VCU are the best jobs in their conferences, both make over 1 million dollars, both can get at large births, both have private jets to recruit, both have great attendance numbers, both are the kings of their cities, both live in better towns than Blacksburg, GM or Shaka won't leave until they can get a UCONN, Cuse, Duke, Kansas, Texas type job...They both turned down NC State last year and that's a better job than VT.

You guys are so caught up with football on the mountain and don't understand hoops...

VT is Not going to hire a UVA assistant so cancel Christmas on RMK getting it.
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By jinxy
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There are several reasons tech is not a very attractive job. First of all the facility is an absolute dump. It's no better than the 5th or 6 best facility in the state and probably the worst in the conference. Just as it's been said, Tech is a football school only save the hard core fans. They have a heck of a baseball coach in pete hughes and they put no money into that program either. Without a commitment to build a new facility Greenberg really raised the ceiling as high as tech basketball can go in my opinion. I think he was a total jerk and cheated just like his brother did but that's beside the point.

I think there is zero chance they are interested in Mckay and zero chance Shaka takes job. I would lean towards no with Marshall too unless his desire to be near home is overwhelming.
By JK37
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prototype wrote:
JK37 wrote:The Wichita State job is better than VT, hands down! Have any of you even been there for a game? It is THE biggest show in town. And it's BIG on any scale. This cannot be considered by conference comparison. Plus, GM's ego can't be handled or coddled at VT. He meh use it to get an even bigger deal at WSU, but this doesn't go any further than that.
Being the biggest Show in town is nothing compared to be an elite coach at an elite program. Answer this - Would either of the following coaches take the WSU job if GM left - Coach K, Calipari, Pitino, Self, Donovan, Crean, Izzo, Williams, Matta, Barnes, or Huggins. Do you really think that a coach wouldn't want to eventually be on this list? He's not getting on here coaching at WSU. VT is VT, but VT is much closer to this list then WSU.
With the exception of Matta, Barnes, and Huggins, every name you listed already IS the biggest show in town. And those three are already bigger than GM would be at VT. He's earned the right to be considered for these jobs when any of your list resigns. He'll get there from WSU. But if he goes to VT, he makes it harder for himself to remain a national name. Don't forget: he was a #5 seed this year. He probably could get VT there eventually, but why waste 2-5 years working to get them where he already has WSU? And believe me, it won't be about money, either. WSU's pockets are deep.
By LUconn
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Cider Jim wrote:
jcmanson wrote: And he's not one to jump at his first opportunity.
But McKay is.

Would anyone disagree that he took the UVa assistant's job to gain enough ACC experience and exposure to turn it into an ACC head coaching job? Play Basketball
I would disagree. He just wants to climb the ladder. His stock was set to drop drastically, with Seth's decision to leave and leftovers that were built around him. If LU was not a destination for him, and obviously it was just a means to an end, he had to get out of town to keep his image up. But it would have to be a heck of a conference improvement to view going from an HC to a AC and not be viewed as taking a step down. Luckily, his long time buddy Tony showed up just up the road. That's my theory.
By GoEagles
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Gregg Marshall has ties to Roanoke or anywhere in VA other than Richmond/Ashland RMC---Never heard that before, you may be mistaken. Of course, I may be also.

No way GM takes the VT job no way.
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