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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:I think he is Bob Beckels AA sponsor!
The other argument I'm tired of is the delegate count. Even if running unopposed NO ONE would have enough delegates to win at this point. Good grief. But this has to be a death blow for Newt. His money people need to cut him off. Santorum is just going to turn into a bitter man the rest of the campaign.
It's Newt who needs to get out, not Santorum. Gingrich is running to destroy Romney. That's all. And he's going to end up causing Mitt to win.
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By Purple Haize
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I agree. He is running purely foe ego. They only rationalization is that he is waiting for Santorum to implode so he will be the only non-Mitt option and rise again
Plus, now Newt and Ricks people are snipping at each other.
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By Purple Haize
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Chris Wallace just updated that Romney leads. CNN calls it for him. Mrs Purple spreading lies
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By jbock13
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No, Romney is ahead now. And it should be called.
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By jbock13
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Just punched these numbers in. This is what the delegate count would be if every state adopted a winner take all system.

Romney: 450
Santorum: 233
Gingrich: 101

(note, results do not count Alaska yet, and Ohio and Idaho were assumed for Romney)
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By Purple Haize
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Remind me not to listen Sarah Palin when she gives her NCAA picks! She picked Newt n Alaska and he finished 4th. She should have done it earlier at least to give him a chance! Ugh
I know Im biased but this is over or at best a 2 1/2 person race.paul is the only one capable of staying in till the end but no chance of winning. Santorum and Newt are starting to turn on each other and cannibalizing each others votes. Newt should go. He won GA but didn't finish better than 3rd anywhere else.
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By jbock13
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It's over. Santorum has no one but himself to blame for his screwups.
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I was listening on the radio this morning to a man who said he was from Massachussetts and still had a quite a few relatives up there. He stated that his brother told him that there is no way that Mitt is a true Conservative and that if he were he never would have won election in MA.

This still worries me too: http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... st.art.htm

I think Romney had a great night and he finally started to strike the right tone... I just hope he is ready to defend these statements and still take Obama on. Hopefully the economy doesn't continue to "improve" too. Haha
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By Dr. Sheh
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Thought it was interesting that Ron won Lynchburg 51 % -49 %. A lot of proportional states yesterday. Paul has no shot at winning, but when the delegates are selected he'll have a lot more than people think. It appears Romney will be a very uninspiring nominee for much of the south and midwest.
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By Purple Haize
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Humble_Opinion wrote:I was listening on the radio this morning to a man who said he was from Massachussetts and still had a quite a few relatives up there. He stated that his brother told him that there is no way that Mitt is a true Conservative and that if he were he never would have won election in MA.

This still worries me too: http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... st.art.htm

I think Romney had a great night and he finally started to strike the right tone... I just hope he is ready to defend these statements and still take Obama on. Hopefully the economy doesn't continue to "improve" too. Haha
I heard the same caller. I don't put a lot of stock in anecdotal evidence from a caller in Lynchburg saying he knows people
When Romney is one on one with Obama I think you will see that he is a lot more conservative then he is currently being portrayed in the media.
I thought it was interesting that that Paul won Lynchburg but don't put a lot of stock in it. I agree that he will end up with a lot more delegates and influence then he is being given credit for. Good thing he and Willard are friends!
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By jbock13
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That's bogus Haize. If he can't be a conservative now, he sure as heck won't be in the general.
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By Purple Haize
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I'm saying he IS conserrvative. But the narrative is that he isn't. All you hear about him is how liberal he is, with no regard to what he says or people say about him. Look at the last election cycle. He WAS the conservative candidate. What has he done since then to become a Liberal? He was a governor PRIOR to all those endorsement and hasn't held office since. But now he is liberal? It just fits the narrative. My point is that once people can hear what he has to say without the drumbeat of 'he's too liberal' people will find he's not as liberal as he is being portrayed. Santorum and Gingrich are just as 'liberal' as he is, but Santorum is beating him on social issues and Newt is beating him on rhetoric.
He will repeal Obamacare. Pretty conservative
Cut taxes. Conservative
Pro Life. Look at his record as Gov and his personal involvement on the issue. Conservative
Cut Spending and streamline govt. Pretty Conservative
Pro Gun. NRA likes him. Conservative

His only hiccup is Romneycare. But that's a STATE thing not a FEDERAL thing, and that will become more clear in the general election. And that's my point. Those issues where he contrasts with Obama will become more clear when the clutter on Gingrich and Santorum goes away. I like that one of his campaign managers said this AM that they are now going to focusing Obamabecause Santorum and Gingrich are irrelevant. Hopefully by doing that hecan do a better job getting a clear message out there. Which admittedly he has not done a great job doing.
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By jbock13
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Yeah. And he has also been anti-second amendment and pro-abortion. So let's not just pretend he's conservative. Anyone who has to hesitate every time he says "conservative", clearly isn't one. Ever notice that about him?

He's not as liberal as Obama. But he's a milquetoast moderate. And all evidence points to this. Anyone who can honestly believe otherwise is not objective in any way.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:Yeah. And he has also been anti-second amendment and pro-abortion. So let's not just pretend he's conservative. Anyone who has to hesitate every time he says "conservative", clearly isn't one. Ever notice that about him?

He's not as liberal as Obama. But he's a milquetoast moderate. And all evidence points to this. Anyone who can honestly believe otherwise is not objective in any way.
What has he done that is pro choice? He made a statement in what 94? How many bills did he veto to protect the right to life and the 2nd Amendment? He fought a very liberal legislature and often won. Anyone who denies that just buys into the narrative.
Is he milquetoast and bland? Sure. Is he a moderate? Depends on your definition. He doesn't throw bombs like Newt or want to get in your bedroom like Santorum, so if THAT'S the criteria, then sure hes a moderate. If being a moderate is cutting taxes, appointing judges like Roberts Alito Thomas and Scalia or letting States handle more of their own business then he's a moderate.
Why is it wrong and suspect when someone comes around to a more Conservative way of thinking?
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By Purple Haize
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Humble_Opinion wrote:I'm with JB on this one Purp.

I just hope he's sincere with his statements to cut the deficit and to cut regulation.
Give me specifics. What has he done in the last 3 years to move him from Conservative or Moderate? Why were they calling him the Conservative candidate 3 years ago? Perhaps his record and not his rhetoric ?
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the fact that he was running against McCain. His rhetoric was enough to make him be the "Conservative" in the race. Obama is like Jimmy Carter (though a little worse) so naturally the base of the party wants someone like Reagan.
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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:
Humble_Opinion wrote:I'm with JB on this one Purp.

I just hope he's sincere with his statements to cut the deficit and to cut regulation.
Give me specifics. What has he done in the last 3 years to move him from Conservative or Moderate? Why were they calling him the Conservative candidate 3 years ago? Perhaps his record and not his rhetoric ?
Haha. I don't remember ANYBODY called Romney conservative in 08. Except Santorum. Which should raise the eyebrows of Santorum supporters.

Go back and watch the video from McCain, a tale of two mitts that I posted. It'd be one thing if he came out and said he was wrong for those statements. But he hasn't.

I've seen this play out before. Code words like "clean and efficient government" are used to hide the fact that Romney still likes big government. Look at Gov. McDonnell for a perfect textbook example of this.
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By Purple Haize
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Santorum. Ok neither of unlike him but was he lying then or lying now?
Limbaugh - Said Mitt had all 3 leggs of a conservative
Even Mark Levin Sean Hannity and Laura Ingrham.
Robert Bork - which bodes well for looking into his judicial nominees
And that's just off the top of my head
This time around he is getting endorsements by Tea Party leaders.
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By jbock13
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You totally just made that up. Levin and Hannity would never say that.

The bottom line is this. You can't show me any evidence that Romney is a conservative.

I actually think Santorum is a bit of a fraud. He's a social conservative, but not a fiscal.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:You totally just made that up. Levin and Hannity would never say that.

The bottom line is this. You can't show me any evidence that Romney is a conservative.

I actually think Santorum is a bit of a fraud. He's a social conservative, but not a fiscal.
Hannity Jan 2008

“I’ll tell you right now, and I’ve not announced this, but I will be voting for Mitt Romney in this campaign. It’s the first time I’ve stated it publicly. I’ll state it now.”

I think it’s do or die time for conservatives. Either we rally to Romney or we reconcile ourselves to McCain and all that that means. It’s one or the other. We have a few more days to make up our minds.

Levin
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... rk-r-levin
Evidently Romney’s character doesn’t let him to cross certain boundaries of decorum and decency


What 'Conservative' proof do u want?
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By Purple Haize
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As for the 'narrative'


Romney Scores Big Win; Press Fails to Notice
by KEITH KOFFLER on MARCH 7, 2012, 9:23 AM
Mitt Romney won a crushing victory Tuesday, winning twice as many states as Rick Santorum and more that two and half times as many delegates, but his triumph is being portrayed in headlines across the nation as sign of weakness and failure.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Romney picked up 211 delegates while taking six states, bringing his total delegate count to 415. Santorum won in three states and added only 84 delegates to bring his total to 176.

Romney scored a huge upset in Ohio, coming from way back to take a politically diverse state that is representative of the type of place he’ll need to win to beat President Obama.

Romney is being widely panned by the press for an “inability to close the deal,” and yet the description seems far more apt for Santorum, who now has blown huge leads in the most critical contests of recent weeks, Ohio and Michigan. If anything, the more voters look at Santorum, the more concerned they become and less likely they are to sign on the dotted line.

Worse for Santorum, he will continue for the foreseeable future to split the most conservative votes with Newt Gingrich – who stays in after winning Georgia – and with Ron Paul, who would remain in the race until 2018 if he could. And Romney has a war chest that will swamp Santorum in the upcoming air wars for closely contested states.

And yet, despite all the evidence Romney largely vanquished his rivals Tuesday night, here are some of the headlines this morning:

Wall Street Journal: Romney Ekes Past Santorum in Ohio

New York Times: With No Knockout Punch, a Bruising Battle Plods On

Los Angeles Times: Battle in Ohio Reinforces GOP Divide; Romney’s Slim Victory Leaves Race Uncertain

USA Today: Romney, Santorum See Momentum

CNN: No Knockout Blow for Romney

Reuters: Romney Narrowly Wins Ohio, Fails to Knock Out Santorum

You get the idea.

There are several reasons for this.

All reporting is now sports reporting. Reporters love a battle and they love to go on TV and rave about how exciting everything is. And editors seek a bracing and never-ending storyline because it draws readers and ultimately pleases their corporate bosses, who want to sell papers and generate pageviews.

The headline “Romney Scores Six Wins and Continues Methodical Drive Toward Nomination” is just not going to drive eyeballs to your story.

And reporters also tend to be moderate to liberal. Bloodletting among Republicans at some level is agreeable to many of them. I have to believe that if this was Obama instead of Romney, the stories would be about the growing inevitability of Obama’s nomination.

That Romney is in all likelihood on the march toward nomination will probably soon become too apparent for any serious journalist to deny. At that point, for the reasons listed above, we will begin to hear feverish talk about the prospects for a third party candidacy.
By jmdickens
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Humble_Opinion wrote: Hopefully the economy doesn't continue to "improve" too. Haha

I know that is in jest, but i could care less who is president as long as the economy is doing well.
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JMC - I was halfway joking, but also referring to the cooking of the data by the media and the Obama administration. That's why I said "recovery". Not that I feel he's the best source on this, but I found an article that touches on this stuff by Dick Morris.

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/obamas-phony-recovery/

Also, I just saw this today - pretty scary stuff:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2 ... Permission
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By Purple Haize
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Polls are volatile but the latest Rassmussen poll has Romney up 8 in Mississiooi and a 3 way tie in Alabama. If Romney can win one let alone both, that HAS to be game set and match. Plus, winning a Southern state in the Primary would be huge
They also show Romney over Obama 48-43 and Santorum beating Obama 46-45.
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