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By LUconn
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RubberMallet wrote: i don't think you understand why he's using the "golden rule" terminology and painting with a much broader stroke than you should be.
I can only understand it as he said it and in it's context "My point is, if another country does to us what we do others, we’re not going to like it very much. So I would say that maybe we ought to consider a golden rule in — in foreign policy.”" It's credulous.

And for the record, I think we're basically arguing over political ideologies which I can't hope to change really. Obviously I disagree with some libertarian politics and it's silly for me to try to convince you otherwise. At the same time, this is a republican primary...
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By RubberMallet
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LUconn wrote: I can only understand it as he said it and in it's context "My point is, if another country does to us what we do others, we’re not going to like it very much. So I would say that maybe we ought to consider a golden rule in — in foreign policy.”" It's credulous.
i don't see how backing off fingerbanging every situation that doesn't involve the safety and prosperity of the majority of citizens in our country is seen as gullible.
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By RubberMallet
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ALUmnus wrote:I'm not convinced....what would Lew Rockwell say?
this is all lincolns fault?
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By jbock13
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Hmmm. Well technically San Marino could launch a land invasion of Italy. Does it make it a good idea?

I'm not sure what your point is. Unless you're just scared that behind every dark corner an Iranian is going to jump out and kill you.
By thepostman
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LUconn wrote:huh, just saw this in the news today. Seems pretty relevant to whether or not they're willing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html.
And?? Unless you are trying to get in some debate with JBock that will get you nowhere I am not sure what you are trying to say here. We need to keep an eye on them. We don't need to attack them because we are afraid.
By bradyfan
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Romney is dominating this thing. Paul is going to finish behind Santorum (again) and Gingrich. I'm starting to feel like there's no use in waiting until March to know how this will turn out. It's going to Romney. All of you Paul supporters should find another candidate to vote for in November or cancel your tavel plans to the polls. This thing is more done than Brett Favre's career.
By thepostman
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I voted for Ron Paul today! So there!!

You are right, its Romney's to lose and honestly I am OK with that. I much rather it be him then Newt that is for sure.

I don't know if I will vote for Romney or not come November. We shall see.
By LUconn
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jbock13 wrote: I'm not sure what your point is.
jbock13 wrote:The fact is that Iran poses no threat to us at all, so why should we bother? And if they attack this, we'll kick their :furious in 43 seconds flat. Paul is all for retaliation when it comes to a direct military attack against us.
Washington Post wrote:Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. said in prepared testimony that an alleged Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington that was uncovered last year reflects an aggressive new willingness within the upper ranks of the Islamist republic to authorize attacks against the United States.
That is my point. I don't understand how you can so flippantly brush them off. The desire is there. The capability is there. And soon the great equalizer will be there. Choose to not believe the intel. I'm just glad that Ron Paul has no chance to do the same.
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By RubberMallet
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"We assess Iran is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons, in part by developing various nuclear capabilities that better position it to produce such weapons, should it choose to do so. We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons. Iran nevertheless is expanding its uranium enrichment capabilities, which can be used for either civil or weapons purposes"

lot of uncertainty up in here. lets go get em.
By bradyfan
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I just heard that Paul is going to stay in the race all the way through the convention...It's not surprising, it's just really really dumb and imo, childish above all else.
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By jbock13
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cjsweat wrote:Romney is dominating this thing. Paul is going to finish behind Santorum (again) and Gingrich. I'm starting to feel like there's no use in waiting until March to know how this will turn out. It's going to Romney. All of you Paul supporters should find another candidate to vote for in November or cancel your tavel plans to the polls. This thing is more done than Brett Favre's career.
Look at Florida's northern panhandle, and it will tell you all you need to know (or as CNN would say, "country Cracker counties". Romney's candidacy will die when it gets to the south, just like it did 4 years ago. The only states Romney can win, are the states that Republicans have no chance at winning anyway.

By the way, when did you become such a fan of Mittens' CJ?
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By skywalker5291
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Sweat we get it you dont like Paul. Please bring something worthwhile here. You seem like a really smart guy but please get off the Paul hate bandwagon. I mean you talk about him more than the "crazy" Paul supporters you seem to hate so much.

Also Paul wrote Florida off as a loss a long time ago. He set foot in the state twice both times for a debate. He didnt campiagn there. If Paul wants to stay in the race in order to further an idea (which is what most of his campaign is about) then do it.

I agree with you that this is Romney's to lose (which is what is wrong with our country) but I can bet you 90% of Paul supporters will not be jumping ship to support Mittens (as jbock would say)

Just calm down Sweat. Us Paul supporters are here to say and if you have a problem with that then Im sorry but we are here to stay so live with it.
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By jbock13
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skywalker5291 wrote:Sweat we get it you dont like Paul. Please bring something worthwhile here. You seem like a really smart guy
I actually disagree with that. Anybody who comes on here prancing around that Romney's the nominee based on the fact they like him is clearly not that bright. Only 1 Republican state has actually voted, and they soundly rejected Mittens.

Sure, I poke fun at Haize for it, but at least he admits he likes Romney. And that's fine if that's how he feels, not only that but it's awesome to be able to crack jokes on candidates and not have everybody get so offended! That and I admire Haize for being one of few people on here with a sense of humor.

i try to be objective as I can, yeah I'm a Paul supporter but won't waste time arguing that he has any shot at the nomination. I could be okay Gingrich or Romney, and probably holding my nose for Santorum. Romney's inconsistancies, Gingrich's environmental stances, and Santorum's big government conservative problems leave me with one guy who is not those things, and that's Paul.
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By thepostman
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LUconn wrote:
jbock13 wrote: I'm not sure what your point is.
jbock13 wrote:The fact is that Iran poses no threat to us at all, so why should we bother? And if they attack this, we'll kick their :furious in 43 seconds flat. Paul is all for retaliation when it comes to a direct military attack against us.
Washington Post wrote:Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. said in prepared testimony that an alleged Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington that was uncovered last year reflects an aggressive new willingness within the upper ranks of the Islamist republic to authorize attacks against the United States.
That is my point. I don't understand how you can so flippantly brush them off. The desire is there. The capability is there. And soon the great equalizer will be there. Choose to not believe the intel. I'm just glad that Ron Paul has no chance to do the same.
Ahhh, ok so it is a debate between you and jbock. Carry on and have fun with that
By thepostman
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jbock13 wrote:
skywalker5291 wrote:Sweat we get it you dont like Paul. Please bring something worthwhile here. You seem like a really smart guy
I actually disagree with that. Anybody who comes on here prancing around that Romney's the nominee based on the fact they like him is clearly not that bright. Only 1 Republican state has actually voted, and they soundly rejected Mittens.

Sure, I poke fun at Haize for it, but at least he admits he likes Romney. And that's fine if that's how he feels, not only that but it's awesome to be able to crack jokes on candidates and not have everybody get so offended!

i try to be objective as I can, yeah I'm a Paul supporter but won't waste time arguing that he has any shot at the nomination. I could be okay Gingrich or Romney, and probably holding my nose for Santorum. Romney's inconsistancies, Gingrich's environmental stances, and Santorum's big government conservative problems leave me with one guy who is not those things, and that's Paul.
I don't understand how anybody could be OK with Gingrich. He is THE establishment that Americans claim to be sick of. Sure Romney is inconsistent and not my ideal candidate but I rather vote for some rich guy who understand business then some career politician that bleeds for the political establishment we are all so sick of.

I will not hide my dislike for him and am baffled at the good people who support him. It absolutely baffles me.
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By jbock13
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I'm not sure what there is to debate. You want to go take them out now, and I think they're just saber rattling. So go start World War III if you think it makes America safe. Just take care of Pakistan while you're at it.

@Postman, The problem is with Gingrich supporters, is they watch too many debates. Newt's a good debater, I get it, but being a good debater is not necessary for being President. Does the president ever have a need to debate anyone once elected? Anyone could talk a good game, but what does your record show. That's my problem with Newt.

I'm honestly dumbfounded by most Gingrich supporters as to the reasons they like him. At least with Romney, you know what you're going to get.
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By Purple Haize
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Don't try and be a suck up now JB! I stated early on I was looking at 3 candidates and eventually went with Willard. I'm just baffled how Willard was winning the conservative vote last go around, ie Cracker Country, but now is a flaming liberal :dontgetit Im seeing that as this race thins out Willard is changing strategy accordingly, getting his message out there retail style and voters are responding. I think the South Carolina victory by Newtron was soley on the last debate. Or as they call it in the sports world, a fluke. Sure Romney has the money but so what. It is one think I admire about the Paul campaignis that he makes great choices about where to put his limited resources. He does well in caucus states, may even win Maine, and is picking fights where there is proportional distribution. Very smart, not gonna win but best strategy.
I think Santorum is like a bad penny. He, not Newt, will be where the Not Mitt crowd will turn. Ironically most polls show that if he were to drop out, 1/2 of his supporters would go to Willard, but most of Newts would go to Santorum. :vomit I just hope Romney doesn't pick him as running mate. Plus in future debates Willard will just remind Rick he is running for President, not Gov of Mass!

Finally, to use officiating parlance on Iran. If they have the capability to build nuclear weapons and we aren't sure if they will use that capacity you have to ask yourself: What the hell else are they going to do with it!?
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By jbock13
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I actually agree with everything you said Haize! In light of this you may wish to reconsider :D

btw I like Newtron... in light of the moon colony.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:I actually agree with everything you said Haize! In light of this you may wish to reconsider :D

btw I like Newtron... in light of the moon colony.
Glad you caught onto that.
Yeah with you and CJ backing Willard I may have to take another look at Rick Perry!
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By jbock13
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but I'm not backing Romney. All I said was at least with Romney, you know what you're getting.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:but I'm not backing Romney. All I said was at least with Romney, you know what you're getting.
In November you will vote for Willard. For now campaign all you want for Paul. I don't think having his positions influence the Republican Domestic Platform is a bad thing for the GOP

47% for Willard? WOW. Guess Newtrons prediction that he and Santorum will have a combined total much greater the Romney is a bit off. But even I am suprised that Willard got almost 1/2 the vote. No debates scheduled till late February. You KNOW Newtron is going to push for them, but if I'm Willard I say No Thank You.
Sorry to hear Santorums daughter was having difficulty. He is very gracious in this concession speech. It makes me like him a little bit.
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By jbock13
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As I've said before, Mitt does not have this nomination yet. Not even by a long shot. Look at northern Florida (i.e where people who actually vote Republican live). Gingrich won many of those northern counties handily. That will come into play once the South begins to vote, and you will see the corolation.

Having said that a surprise to me was the Miami area that went almost 60% for Romney.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:As I've said before, Mitt does not have this nomination yet. Not even by a long shot. Look at northern Florida (i.e where people who actually vote Republican live). Gingrich won many of those northern counties handily. That will come into play once the South begins to vote, and you will see the corolation.

Having said that a surprise to me was the Miami area that went almost 60% for Romney.
That was my point earlier. Look who won those in the 08 primary.
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