[jbock13]

The best part about Newt is that he's a patriot. So much so, by saving the country, who just had to bang 15 of his interns. It's a hard job!

[skywalker5291]

From what I have read on here in the past couple of months I have come to the conclusion that some of the people on here are the typical Republicans. These are the people that will vote for anyone as long as its not Obama. Remember about 4 years ago when everyone was saying it can't get worse then Bush well look what happened. There is always someone worse. By saying you will not vote for Newt if he is the nominee and saying you will write in someone like Ron Paul is not a vote for Obama it is a vote that you can stand up for and never be ashamed of. If more people stood up for what they believe in this country would not be in the crap it is in now. Im sorry if you are offended by the fact that no matter what I will write in Ron Paul. But if I voted for Newt I can honestly say I would have a hard time sleeping at night. We need people in the government that will defend the Constitution not just people who defend the Constitution when it fits into their political agenda.

[ALUmnus]

I agree with Newt's statement. I've always believed the premise. There never was a nation of Palestine, and there never was a group of people called the Palestinians. They are Arabs. Read your history.

Who said the following:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.

That would be Zuheir Mohsen. If you don't want to look him up, he was on the PLO Executive Committee in the late 70's.

[jbock13]

How is being a hack for Ron Paul any better than being a hack for Republicans?

Either way, you're a hack for someone. lol. Everybody here knows I hate Newt but is it really to the point I'm ready to screw the country? Absolutely not.

Like I said I'm pretty sympathetic to Paul's ideas but, then I have to deal with these things...

I guess it's like Christians should follow Christ, not Christ's followers. I guess I have to listen to Paul, and not his crazy supporters. It's sad because I have so much respect for his intellect, but his supporters continually diminish his credibility. Want to know why so many people are confused about Ron Paul? Because they see his fan base. Not Ron Paul himself.

[skywalker5291]

How is being a hack for Ron Paul any better than being a hack for Republicans

Because the "Republicans" dont stand for what Paul stands for. No one on that stage comes close to
Paul when you look at his overall record. And just to clarify im not a Republican and never will be.

[jbock13]

How is being a hack for Ron Paul any better than being a hack for Republicans

Because the "Republicans" dont stand for what Paul stands for. No one on that stage comes close to
Paul when you look at his overall record. And just to clarify im not a Republican and never will be.

Well then why is Paul a Republican? Does Paul stand for what Republicans stand for?

[skywalker5291]

Paul is not a Republican he is a Libertarian. The reason he is running as a Republican is because our system is so messed up that you have no shot if you run as a third party. And no he has alot of different beliefs then everyone on that stage.

[jbock13]

Paul is not a Republican he is a Libertarian. The reason he is running as a Republican is because our system is so messed up that you have no shot if you run as a third party. And no he has alot of different beliefs then everyone on that stage.

Last time I checked he's a Republican in Congress.

I'm a Libertarian, but also a Republican, because the Libertarian party is a hopeless joke.

Also, do you think Ron Paul would vote for Obama over Romney if he truly feels America is on the brink of disaster? (this isn't a setup, I agree with him).

[skywalker5291]

No I think Ron Paul would vote for himself if it came down to that. I can not see him voting for either because both violate his view on the Constitution.

[Purple Haize]

This is one of my big problems with Ron Paul. If he is a Libertarian then run as one, caucus as one basically BE one. If he were as pure as everyone makes him out to be then why hide? Is it just so he can get elected? I would be curious who he will vote for if he isn't the nominee. And if he ends up running as a 3rd party then he is as big a hypocrite as those he rightfully lambasts.

[thepostman]

How is being a hack for Ron Paul any better than being a hack for Republicans

Because the "Republicans" dont stand for what Paul stands for. No one on that stage comes close to
Paul when you look at his overall record. And just to clarify im not a Republican and never will be.

Well then why is Paul a Republican? Does Paul stand for what Republicans stand for?

No, he stands for what the republican party says they stand for.

Also I would never vote for Obama, but I can't vote for someone again simply because I disagree with the guy on the other side with a clear conscious.

Sure most people vote for the "lesser of 2 evils', but I am done with that. I would much rather have a clear conscious then vote for someone I know I can't trust.

Its called having principle. Some people call it something else, but those aren't typically the kind of people I agree with politically.

[Purple Haize]

In life the ability to make the right or good choice is rare. What is more common is making the least bad choice.

[TH Spangler]

How about a Newt ~ Santorum ticket. Rick can be Newt's Christian accountability partner ...... Just thinking out loud

[jbock13]

I just think the amazing thing is how everyone acts like they were always fans of Newt. We know who you are.

[ALUmnus]

It's funny how voting for the "less of two evils" weighs on people's conscience so much. Does it really make you that guilt-ridden? How about we use some logic and do what's best?

And as far as picking the candidate you can trust....there are problems with all of them, yes even the vaunted Ron Paul. Ron Paul is just as hypocritical a legislator as anyone in Congress. Even he is not entirely consistant in his voting record, and in my view has run the sleaziest campaign of everyone running. Pick your poison. I have no problem whatsoever with people supporting Ron Paul, and I completely understand why people love him. He's great at some things. For me, he's just not even close to being the best candidate.

I guess this belongs in another thread, but it goes to show you how the typical Paul supporters try to hijack everything.

[Purple Haize]

I just think the amazing thing is how everyone acts like they were always fans of Newt. We know who you are.

He has moved up my list but I think I have made my decision in the primary. If Newt wins then I will vote for him in the general election.

'The lesser of two evils' has nothing to do with a guilty conscience. It is the reality of life. The majority of decisions are about picking something that is less bad. It's the price of decision making.

[R i]

You Ron Paul supporters who will let Obama in over a Republican really irritate me.

As someone who's pretty sympathetic to him, seems pretty stupid. Do you know Ron Paul is a Republican?

I try not to vote for the D or the R. I try and vote for me and my country.

[jbock13]

But R I, who stands most for American ideals? I know the Republicans really suck right now, but the Democrats have transformed into the party of full blown socialism. Let's also not forget there are plenty of Republicans who will stand up for the ideas of our founding fathers. The Democratic party fully rejects our Constitution.

[jmdickens]

But R I, who stands most for American ideals? I know the Republicans really suck right now, but the Democrats have transformed into the party of full blown socialism. Let's also not forget there are plenty of Republicans who will stand up for the ideas of our founding fathers. The Democratic party fully rejects our Constitution.

That is a broad stroked statement.....basically, because there is still arguments today as to what the founding fathers intended in the first place.

Also, the party system was never intended by the founding fathers, because the parties arguably are nothing more than an oligarchy.

I will say that if Santorum jumps the vote in Iowa and New Hampshire and Ron Paul is dead last, I will consider going for Santorum. But that is only because Santorum's state coalitions director, Jamie Johnson is a friend. Oh, and Johnson majorly stumped Mat Staver at the law school last year over the issue of taking care of the family in the Bible.

[jbock13]

well, do you think the founding fathers would support what's going on today? All it really is, is that simple question. If you think so, you're Democrat. If you think not, you're probably Republican.

It would be completely ridiculous to say the founding fathers were socialists. I hope we can at least agree on that.

I'm a Republican because I believe the party needs to be pushed back to the right. America is a two party system, and it works. European countries have multiple parties, and they all hold a reign of terror on their citizens (or like Greece, where mob violence ensues).

I loved it when Ron Paul did not rule out the possibility of being a third party candidate. Apparently Ron Paul cares more about his political career than he does reelecting Obama. And even if he cared so much about the country to try to beat Obama, he'll split the vote and give Obama the victory.

While I share my disagreements with Reagan, he showed how we as citizens can get in the Republican Party to ruffle some feathers. We need to stand up, and be like him, and to not whine and complain, or kick the tires of the broken down car. We must fix this ship.

[jmdickens]

jblock, the problem is that the Republicans that are mainstream arent different than the democrats

Socialism and Fascism are one in the same...Rule over another person. The founders would be ashamed of Federal Govt trying to run peoples lives economically and socially.

Youre making a simple solution that doesnt address the complex problems....Our number one problem in Washington is that the people that represent the people only care about being that person. They dont care about the people.

I think we can all agree that the biggest issue is the economy. Both of these parties contributed to it's current state. The right direction is for a foundational change. I prefer people of moral upstanding character who will lead by example and not do as their party tells them. That is why I support someone like Ron Paul. It is about the individual in this country, not the party that leads this country. That is why the Republican party has lost its conservative votes to the other parties.

[jbock13]

I don't mind what you've said, but how have the conservatives been lost to other parties? There's nowhere else for them to go.

As for our representatives, who elects them? We the people. I don't want to hear they don't care about us. Because if they didn't, we'd vote them out. But for some reason, they keep voting the same ones in, and complaining every year how nothing changes.

I think we agree pretty much, I just have more faith things can change then you do I feel.

[jmdickens]

the Republicans have lost a good portion of the voters...libertarians for one, because they have fallen for BIG GOVERNMENT.

But with NEWT and MITT or Perry you have the exact same that has been in Washington for the past few decades and it is literally heartbreaking. But Republicans should really start thinking about this old quote:

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Fundamental change is what is needed in Washington, not just a D to an R and vice versa.

[jbock13]

You're throwing Perry in with Mitt or Newt? How's that? Pretty sure Perry is nothing like those two. Only created the best economy in the United States.

So what's your idea? Third Party? The Libertarian Party is a joke. That's why as a Libertarian, I don't waste my time even fooling with them.

Besides, a lot of Libertarian Party officials are simply Republicans who don't want to be labeled as such. William Redpath is a great example.

[Purple Haize]

DICKENS. Socialism and Fascism are two different things.