[TH Spangler]

Very neat site ... provides real time college football ranking data to college sports fans!

http://realtimerpi.com/football/ncaaf_2 ... ml?Liberty

GAMER Predictions for LU

10-29 Presbyterian 1-5 223 Scouting 44-14 W
11-05 Virginia Military 1-6 240 Scouting 45-13 W
11-19 at Stony Brook 3-3 192 Scouting 35-22 W

[TH Spangler]

http://realtimerpi.com/football/ncaaf_2 ... tony+Brook

They pick Coastal over Stony Brook this week. 26-29

[RVAparks]

(fingers-crossed)

Kind of a stupid question (but I've seen dumb Big South tiebreakers before), if Coastal did beat SB, and then SB beat us, is there a scenario where we still win the conference outright or is the tiebreak strictly head to head (which it should be)?

[SumItUp]

(fingers-crossed)

Kind of a stupid question (but I've seen dumb Big South tiebreakers before), if Coastal did beat SB, and then SB beat us, is there a scenario where we still win the conference outright or is the tiebreak strictly head to head (which it should be)?

Head-to-head is not an option in a 3-way tie.

We need to win all of our games to get the autobid. If Stony Brook were to beat Liberty, the only way Liberty can go over Stony Brook is if SB were to lose 2 of their next 3 games.

If we win all 3 remaining conference games, we are in the playoffs. There is no excuse for us not to get that done. We have the talent and experience.

[RVAparks]

Thanks...

I wasn't implying a three way tie though, since Coastal has already lost twice.

[PAmedic]

(fingers-crossed)

Kind of a stupid question (but I've seen dumb Big South tiebreakers before), if Coastal did beat SB, and then SB beat us, is there a scenario where we still win the conference outright or is the tiebreak strictly head to head (which it should be)?

the applicable tie-break would be road wins. So if our 1 loss is to SB on the road, while their only loss is to CCU at home, they are the champs due to winning out on the road.

I think.

[BJWilliams]

I think thats right...unless SBU trips up before our meeting on the 19th

[Chris Lang]

Coastal is out of the tiebreak mix unless SBU and Liberty each lose two games. Highly unlikely.

The only way that Liberty-SBU isn't winner-take-all is if SBU is 3-2 heading into that game and Liberty is 5-0 (or the other way around). Liberty can actually afford to lose to either PC or VMI and still be in the winner-take-all situation no matter what Stony Brook does.

[BJWilliams]

If SBU loses to either Charleston Southern or Gardner-Webb but beats Coastal Carolina, then the real fun begins. If we win our remaining two home games we would be 3-0 in conference at home. If Stony Brook then WINS our meeting the last week of the season...they have to go to that weird RPI/GPI style formula because both teams would be 3-0 at home and 2-1 on the road

[01LUGrad]

If SBU loses to either Charleston Southern or Gardner-Webb but beats Coastal Carolina, then the real fun begins. If we win our remaining two home games we would be 3-0 in conference at home. If Stony Brook then WINS our meeting the last week of the season...they have to go to that weird RPI/GPI style formula because both teams would be 3-0 at home and 2-1 on the road

No.
Read Lang's post. If we are 5-0 and they are 4-1 going into the last game, it is still winner-take-all. The first tie-breaker is head-to-head match-up. If we lose, we would both be 5-1 and they get the tie breaker.

[BJWilliams]

I didnt say it wouldnt be winner take all 01...I just said that itd be a lot more interesting in how they would figure out said winner because if Stony Brook loses only one of their remaining two road games but beats Coastal Carolina, they will be 2-0 at home. If both teams finish 3-0 at home, then itd go to road games. If both teams are 2-1 in road games (which would happen if LU loses to SBU) then itd go to that formula to determine who gets the autobid (at least I think Im speculating that possibility correctly)

[Chris Lang]

BJ, you're not getting it.

It's head-to-head.

The road win/home win/formula tiebreaker only comes into play if there's a three-way tie.

There isn't going to be a three-way tie.

It's quite simple. Unless something really weird happens, like Liberty losing twice at home or Stony Brook losing two on the road, the game in Long Island will be for all the marbles. No one else figures into it.

[BJWilliams]

ahh ok. Thanks Lang...Well then lets kick some butt these last three games and punch our ticket to the show

[RVAparks]

Was it just my head that just exploded?

[TH Spangler]

Here's the power ranking from that site for FCS.

Overall Div 1 ranking / School / Record

77 fcs Georgia Southern 7-0
81 fcs North Dakota St 7-0
88 fcs Northern Iowa 6-1
89 fcs Lehigh 6-1
91 fcs Montana St. 6-1
96 fcs Appalachian St. 5-2
98 fcs Sam Houston St. 7-0
99 fcs Maine 6-1
105 fcs New Hampshire 5-2
106 fcs Wofford 4-2
107 fcs James Madison 5-2
109 fcs Towson 6-1
112 fcs Montana 6-2
121 fcs Old Dominion 6-2
124 fcs Alabama St. 6-1
125 fcs Jacksonville St. 5-2
130 fcs Indiana St. 5-3
132 fcs South Dakota 3-3
136 fcs Tennessee Tech 3-2
137 fcs Liberty 4-3

[TH Spangler]

Power Rankings Sun Oct 30 08:45:49 PDT 2011

Overall / fcs Rank / Team

65 / fcs 1 / North Dakota St
78 / fcs 2 / Lehigh
80 / fcs 3 / Appalachian St.
82 / fcs 4 / Sam Houston St.
84 / fcs 5 / Montana St.
86 / fcs 6 / Wofford
87 / fcs 7 / Maine
89 / fcs 8 / Georgia Southern
92 / fcs 9 / New Hampshire
100 / fcs 10 / Northern Iowa
101 / fcs 11 / Montana
102 / fcs 12 / Old Dominion
103 / fcs 13 / Harvard
104 / fcs 14 / Jackson St.
118 / fcs 15 / Indiana St.
121 fcs 16 / James Madison
122 / fcs 17 / Brown
123 / fcs 18 / Towson
125 / fcs 19 / Tennessee Tech
128 / fcs 20 / Delaware
129 / fcs 21 / Norfolk St.
130 / fcs 22 / Jacksonville
131 / fcs 23 / Alabama St.
132 / fcs 24 / Liberty

[TH Spangler]

Overtime win against Presbyterian drops LU in power rankings .....

Power Rankings
Tue Nov 1 14:50:01 PDT 2011

Overall / fcs Rank / Team / Record

80 fcs 1 North Dakota St 8-0
91 fcs 2 Georgia Southern 7-1
92 fcs 3 Lehigh 7-1
95 fcs 4 Appalachian St. 6-2
98 fcs 5 Sam Houston St. 8-0
100 fcs 6 Northern Iowa 6-2
104 fcs 7 Montana St. 7-1
106 fcs 8 Maine 7-1
107 fcs 9 Wofford 5-2
114 fcs 10 New Hampshire 6-2
116 fcs 11 Montana 7-2
117 fcs 13 Old Dominion 7-2
118 fcs 14 Harvard 6-1
121 fcs 15 Jackson St. 6-1
122 fcs 16 James Madison 5-3
124 fcs 17 Towson 6-2
126 fcs 18 Indiana St. 5-3
129 fcs 19 Alabama St. 6-2
130 fcs 20 Jacksonville St. 5-3
133 fcs 21 Brown 6-1
134 fcs 22 Tennessee Tech 4-2
135 fcs 23 Norfolk St. 7-2
136 fcs 24 Delaware 4-4
137 fcs 25 South Dakota 3-4
138 fcs 26 Jacksonville 6-2
140 fcs 27 Liberty 5-3

[BiggAl57]

Overtime win against Presbyterian drops LU in power rankings .....

Power Rankings
Tue Nov 1 14:50:01 PDT 2011

Overall / fcs Rank / Team / Record

80 fcs 1 North Dakota St 8-0
91 fcs 2 Georgia Southern 7-1
92 fcs 3 Lehigh 7-1
95 fcs 4 Appalachian St. 6-2
98 fcs 5 Sam Houston St. 8-0
100 fcs 6 Northern Iowa 6-2
104 fcs 7 Montana St. 7-1
106 fcs 8 Maine 7-1
107 fcs 9 Wofford 5-2
114 fcs 10 New Hampshire 6-2
116 fcs 11 Montana 7-2
117 fcs 13 Old Dominion 7-2
118 fcs 14 Harvard 6-1
121 fcs 15 Jackson St. 6-1
122 fcs 16 James Madison 5-3
124 fcs 17 Towson 6-2
126 fcs 18 Indiana St. 5-3
129 fcs 19 Alabama St. 6-2
130 fcs 20 Jacksonville St. 5-3
133 fcs 21 Brown 6-1
134 fcs 22 Tennessee Tech 4-2
135 fcs 23 Norfolk St. 7-2
136 fcs 24 Delaware 4-4
137 fcs 25 South Dakota 3-4
138 fcs 26 Jacksonville 6-2
140 fcs 27 Liberty 5-3

our record is 6-3 not 5-3.

[jcmanson]

So, Lehigh is #3 and we lost to them on the road by 3 points after having 3 touchdowns called back. Either we're underrated or they're overrated.

[prototype]

Overtime win against Presbyterian drops LU in power rankings .....

Power Rankings
Tue Nov 1 14:50:01 PDT 2011

Overall / fcs Rank / Team / Record

80 fcs 1 North Dakota St 8-0
91 fcs 2 Georgia Southern 7-1
92 fcs 3 Lehigh 7-1
95 fcs 4 Appalachian St. 6-2
98 fcs 5 Sam Houston St. 8-0
100 fcs 6 Northern Iowa 6-2
104 fcs 7 Montana St. 7-1
106 fcs 8 Maine 7-1
107 fcs 9 Wofford 5-2
114 fcs 10 New Hampshire 6-2
116 fcs 11 Montana 7-2
117 fcs 13 Old Dominion 7-2
118 fcs 14 Harvard 6-1
121 fcs 15 Jackson St. 6-1
122 fcs 16 James Madison 5-3
124 fcs 17 Towson 6-2
126 fcs 18 Indiana St. 5-3
129 fcs 19 Alabama St. 6-2
130 fcs 20 Jacksonville St. 5-3
133 fcs 21 Brown 6-1
134 fcs 22 Tennessee Tech 4-2
135 fcs 23 Norfolk St. 7-2
136 fcs 24 Delaware 4-4
137 fcs 25 South Dakota 3-4
138 fcs 26 Jacksonville 6-2
140 fcs 27 Liberty 5-3

our record is 6-3 not 5-3.

Maybe wins verse DII schools don't count?

[jbock13]

I actually think we've been pretty underrated this year, but that's okay, I'd rather it be that than overrated.

Although 20 sounds about right.

And good catch Prototype, it doesn't count D2 games because Delaware is 5-4 if you count their game against West Chester.

[TH Spangler]

And good catch Prototype, it doesn't count D2 games because Delaware is 5-4 if you count their game against West Chester.

That's right ....

Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Rankings update every 5 mins.

I think this site offers a computer generated power ranking .... I can't seem to find anything explaining what statistical data they're entering. I like checking out the over-all rankings. It gives you a good idea how FCS teams match up with conferences like the Big East, Mountain West, Conference USA, Mid-American, Sun Belt.

I found it http://realtimerpi.com/faq.html

[TH Spangler]

Real Time spread down to 6

[BiggAl57]

Very neat site ... provides real time college football ranking data to college sports fans!

http://realtimerpi.com/football/ncaaf_2 ... ml?Liberty

GAMER Predictions for LU

10-29 Presbyterian 1-5 223 Scouting 44-14 W
11-05 Virginia Military 1-6 240 Scouting 45-13 W
11-19 at Stony Brook 3-3 192 Scouting 35-22 W

bump
it is now down to 31-26 w for LU

[SumItUp]

I'm glad this will be decided on the field on the last game of the season. Our boys will be prepared. Win or lose, neither team will have any argument with the playoff committee. It's going to be a great game. I think one team will jump to an early lead and it will even out by the end of the 3rd quarter and be decided in the fourth. I feel good about our chances.