[jmdickens]

Big difference between writing the paper for someone and providing help on a paper.

Devon Ramsey says hello.

She said help from a tutor on one written assignment constituted Ramsay's only involvement in the NCAA's investigation of academic misconduct and improper benefits provided by agents and others at UNC.

Lee said her son and UNC officials have told her that UNC's own academic honor system didn't consider Ramsay's issue serious enough to send to the student-run honor court for possible sanctions.

Don't get me wrong, I have NO PROBLEM with the NCAA punishing those that should be punished. I'm just baffled at the amount of time put into the UNC investigation vs. the Auburn investigation.

BS...is what I'm saying

As much as UNC punished itself, I will choose to believe it is the truth when UNC officials say it wasn't enough to receive this type of punishment.

[From the class of 09]

I have a feeling that they are using the definition of help very very loosely...as in tutor says here is the paper now all you have to do is turn it in kinda help.

[BJWilliams]

Again,
This was an immediate eligibility decision by the eligibility committee. This has no bearing on the investigation, or enforcement committees. If you look into this much at all you will see people in the know saying this is just getting started.

Sometimes I wonder if you want Cam Newton to be guilty of something so you can feel personally vindicated?

[BJWilliams]

well I believe in innocent until proven guilty so if he's guilty when this all shakes out then he's guilty and should be punished accordingly. If he's innocent then he's innocent and everybody should laud him for his accomplishments on the field this year.

Id like for him to be not guilty but Im not gonna sit here with my fingers in my ears and pretend that nothing is wrong. I just am taking a wait and see approach and letting the investigation play itself out, not let my thought process be shaped by the reporters and the media and the court of public opinion.

[TXFlame]

If the NCAA would have suspended Newton, that would have given TCU a clear path into the BCS title game. There's no way they would allow someone to crash their party like that. If there was one more undefeated team from a BCS conference, they may have seriously considered suspending him.

[Th3rd]

so anyone notice that after the Heisman Trophy Award Ceremony ESPN decided to play the SMU 30 for 30... I think its a little bit of a foreshadowing

[Schfourteenteen]

so anyone notice that after the Heisman Trophy Award Ceremony ESPN decided to play the SMU 30 for 30... I think its a little bit of a foreshadowing

+1

[aredd33]

BTW that special was incredible.

I've watched two of ESPN's 30 for 30s they were both awesome. I watched SMU's death penalty the other night and also the one about The "U" in the 90s.

[Th3rd]

sadly the SMU one was the first 30 for 30 i watched... it was amazing though... ill probably end up getting the box set they are putting out for it

[rueful]

ive only seen like 10 of the 30 for 30's and loved every one. My wife watched this one and seemed more into than I was, at the very least got her interested in college football more than before, hopefully enough to let us come to homecoming(at the LEAST)

[RubberMallet]

the smu 30 for 30 was fantastic. most of them have been.

[4everfsu]

What was amazing about the SMU show was that they said SMU death penalty was the demise of the SWC as a conference.

[olldflame]

It may very well have been. While SMU was probably the worst offender, I think it's safe to say that pay for play was SOP in the SWC before this came down. What happened to SMU scared everyone into cleaning up their act (relatively speaking) and a lot of the recruits they were getting started looking elsewhere.

[Schfourteenteen]

the smu 30 for 30 was fantastic. most of them have been.

Definitely. The July 17, Two Escobars, and the Petrovic episodes were the best IMO. I don't know why they let Ice Cube ruin one.

[flamesbball84]

All of the 30 for 30 episodes I have seen have been top notch. The Len Bias, SMU, Reggie Miller, and Petrovic/Divac episodes are the ones that stick out msot in my mind. I plan on eventually getting the two boxed sets. The boxed set of the first 15 episodes has been out for a while, the second one should come out soon since the SMU episode was the 30th.

[Schfourteenteen]

Little Big Men and The Birth of Big Air are worth mentioning as well. I'll be getting them both once the second set comes out.

[Sly Fox]

Anyone who believes the SWC was a worse offender than the SEC or any of the other major conferences is kidding themselves. SMU was an easy target for the NCAA to take down since they were a small school with little pull.

Yes, the SMU death penalty was a contributing factor to the demise of the SWC (I like to think Kyle Kallender's presence factored in as well). The primary problem was that the division between the haves & have nots had gotten to the point where UT and A&M were essentially propping up the entire league once Arkansas decided the grass was greener in the SEC. The only other school with any real national success in the last decade of the SWC was Houston. The big money in Texas felt that being tied to the Rices & TCUs of the world was holding them up from dominating the national stage. Much like this past year when they had the entire college football world in the palm of their hands during realignment, back in the Early '80s the two Texan powerhouses had their choice of whether they wanted to join forces with the SEC, Big 8 or the Pac-10. Just like this past summer, the Ags liked what they saw in the lowbrow SEC while the Horns liked the highbrow Pac-10. But it was inconceivable at the time that they would ever be separated. So the merger with the Big 8 became the compromise. Texas had a longstanding rivalry with Oklahoma and the travel costs were easier to manage for everyone involved. The real fun came in the decision over who would be the other two schools to join with the UT/A&M partners in making the move. The top two options at the time were TCU & UH. But neither carried much political clout in Austin. Tech was selected as the public school over Houston in a move them proved a boon to Lubbock and disaster in Houston. Then it as a choice between longtime rivals Baylor & TCU (both used to be across the street from each other in Waco before TCU moved to Fort Worth) for the private school slot. The state legislature ultimately made the call by holding UT and A&M's finances hostage. Ann Richards was governor (head of executive branch) & Bob Bullock was Lt. Governor (head of Texas Senate & arguably the most powerful person in Texas) and both were Baylor alumni. Had anyone else been in power, Baylor would have had ZERO chance of being in the Big XII. Timing is everything and they forced the Longhorns & Aggies bring the Bears to the party with them.

[Sly Fox]

Did I mention Cam played JUCO ball less than hour from my house while his pops was swinging the sweetheart deals to send him to Auburn?

If you've ever had Blue Bell ice cream, it comes from Brenham where the cows are contented and the caliber of JUCO football is off the hook.

[Kolzilla41]

Did I mention Cam played JUCO ball less than hour from my house while his pops was swinging the sweetheart deals to send him to Auburn?

If you've ever had Blue Bell ice cream, it comes from Brenham where the cows are contented and the caliber of JUCO football is off the hook.

I've been to their plant in Alabama.....Outstanding ice cream.