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prototype wrote:This is a joke - Let the guy play. He has been sitting out for 2 years.I know. That's like 14 years in dog years!
LUconn wrote:He'll be a quarterback. He was not the best passer in the league, but he was an NFL starter. He is not fast enough to be a WR. His speed was overrated because of the runs that we saw him make, but without the defense having to respect his ability to throw the ball, he's worthless.I completly disagree. He does not have to be a QB at all, he could be a slot #3 WR and run a few gimmick plays behind center for a change of pace. To say Vick vs. a teams nickel package DB is worthless shows you either don't like the guy or are just trying to get a reaction because i know you aren't that dumb. If he gets on the right team and they complement him with the correct scheme to showcase his abilities it could work out very well for him. NO one can tell me in the open field on a slant route he isn't fast enough to run away from people, especially now that he is probably a few pounds lighter im sure.
prototype wrote:Don't forget the Dawg Pound - that would be a good fit:)I dont think Carruth has played in the league in a VERY long time and he will never play again (he's not due out of the pokey til 2018 apparently)
Vick is an exciting player - I would take him on my team.
Afterall - there have been some pretty bad decisions made my NFL'ers that are still playing -
Rae Carruth- conspiracy to commit murder
Ray Lewis- shady during murder investigation
Pacman Jones- being dumb in strip clubs
Chris Henry- traffic violations/being stupid
Tank Johnson- guns
Plaxico Burress- guns
Marshawn Lynch- guns
Donte Stallworth- DUI/homicide
Reggie Williams- drugs
Matt Jones- drugs
Leonard Little - Do I need to even say anything here? Manslaughter DWI and then gets caught with another DWI 6 years later... Missed a total of 6 games.
Rocketfan wrote:I was on the "make him something other than QB" side of the fence for a long time while he was with the falcons because he wasn't all that great of a passer. But I've changed my mind. He's fast. The only known 40 time was at a rookie mini-camp which I doubt was very accurate and that was a 4.36. (he didn't run at the combine). And that was in 2001, 8 years ago. So he's fast, but he's not the fastest guy in the league like everybody thinks he is. He's also not built to take the abuse that a running back does on a regular basis. His entire threat is that a defense has to respect his ability to pass and his ability to throw. That seriously handicaps a defenses ability to cover. Somebody suddenly has to be responsible for a player you used to be able to somewhat ignore one way or the other. If he's a slot receiver he's suddenly a mediocre player and you cover him just like you cover any other quick footed receiver. Does anybody even know if he can catch? If he's a running back he'll be on the IR within 4 games.LUconn wrote:He'll be a quarterback. He was not the best passer in the league, but he was an NFL starter. He is not fast enough to be a WR. His speed was overrated because of the runs that we saw him make, but without the defense having to respect his ability to throw the ball, he's worthless.I completly disagree. He does not have to be a QB at all, he could be a slot #3 WR and run a few gimmick plays behind center for a change of pace. To say Vick vs. a teams nickel package DB is worthless shows you either don't like the guy or are just trying to get a reaction because i know you aren't that dumb. If he gets on the right team and they complement him with the correct scheme to showcase his abilities it could work out very well for him. NO one can tell me in the open field on a slant route he isn't fast enough to run away from people, especially now that he is probably a few pounds lighter im sure.
dcbailey wrote:Vick was never a model citizen, but I believe he got a bad deal from day one. Let him play right away. I wish he had not lied to the Falcons' owner. Hey, his brother pulled a gun on someone in a parking lot and I don't think he was corrected in any measure relative to Michael. Am I off base?pulling a gun and not actually harming anyone is a lot different than running a dog fighting kennel...
flamesbball84 wrote:Marcus Vick had a couple DUI's in there, and was actually sentenced to 12 months in jail (the judge suspended the sentence, though).dcbailey wrote:Vick was never a model citizen, but I believe he got a bad deal from day one. Let him play right away. I wish he had not lied to the Falcons' owner. Hey, his brother pulled a gun on someone in a parking lot and I don't think he was corrected in any measure relative to Michael. Am I off base?pulling a gun and not actually harming anyone is a lot different than running a dog fighting kennel...
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RubberMallet wrote:vick is in buffalo right now...2nd tripWhat does Vic play backup there? Vick and TO on offense is an interesting thought though...Lynch ( RB) is also suspended 3 or 4 games as well i believe.
Well played.
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