[Hold My Own]

.....just cost him 50 games

[adam42381]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-man ... 4894.story

[Rocketfan]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-man ... 4894.story

Best part of that article...again Canseco says Manny was probably on the list of 104 players that failed in 2003. Manny laughs, then Manny tests positive.

[Hold My Own]

I know...how trustworthy has Jose become through these last few years...that guy has been SPOT ON with everything he's said

[Hold My Own]

This could get interesting...this was coming from ESPN on Twitter

SportsCenter Producer:Ramirez's agent tells Peter Gammons no steroids - says the drug that caused Manny's positive result was prescribed by his doctor.

haha and then I just saw this:

BarryZito Manny's gone for 50 games. time for the Giants to capitalize.

[RubberMallet]

bs, they've had that statement made up for some time now....

[TDDance234]

Even if a doctor prescribed it...under the MLB banner, isn't it still punishable? I believe someone else caught a suspension last year from a prescription but the MLB ruled the players were supposed to know what was going in their bodies.

[Hold My Own]

yeh, it doesnt matter unless he called MLB to ask them

[olldflame]

I suspect the claim will be that the prescription wasn't for steroids, but for something else which caused a false positive. Probably prescribed in the DR and something not available here.

[4everfsu]

I also heard on the radio, the 50 games suspension will cost him 1/3 of his salary

[TDDance234]

However, two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is HCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

[Hold My Own]

I know a lot about HCG...Clomid is what is used 90% of the time but often people confuse the two, I THINK it is the same stuff just different name...I know you can use both for the exact same purpose. People call this PCT Post Cycle Treatment which is just as important as the actual cycle itself in all reality. PCT's are harder to hide then the actual cycle now a day's...something else that is used sometimes for PCT is Benadryl too but he couldnt have used that but for a few certain cycles which I highly doubt he was using during spring training, there's no doubt he wanted to bulk in spring training and not cut...that would have been in the winter

[prototype]

Who cares - let him play. He has erectile dysfunction and needed to get some chemical help!!! Play baseball everyday for a profession - you would want some help too. It was prescribed - it should be legal for him to take.

This whole steroids thing is a joke - records will fall anyways, because technology is better and that not only includes the equipment, it means the medicine is better.

[flames1971]

.....just cost him 50 games

Well, it's his own fault...

[adam42381]

Who cares - let him play. He has erectile dysfunction and needed to get some chemical help!!! Play baseball everyday for a profession - you would want some help too. It was prescribed - it should be legal for him to take.

This whole steroids thing is a joke - records will fall anyways, because technology is better and that not only includes the equipment, it means the medicine is better.

Umm...no.

[01LUGrad]

Who cares - let him play. He has erectile dysfunction and needed to get some chemical help!!! Play baseball everyday for a profession - you would want some help too. It was prescribed - it should be legal for him to take.

This whole steroids thing is a joke - records will fall anyways, because technology is better and that not only includes the equipment, it means the medicine is better.

Umm...no.

+1

[Rocketfan]

Who cares - let him play. He has erectile dysfunction and needed to get some chemical help!!! Play baseball everyday for a profession - you would want some help too. It was prescribed - it should be legal for him to take.

This whole steroids thing is a joke - records will fall anyways, because technology is better and that not only includes the equipment, it means the medicine is better.

This does bring up two interesting points. First, if a Dr. prescribes you something for a medical conditoin, who is baseball to tell you that you can't take it or you will lose your job for 50 games. Id love to see that argued in court. I mean California allows medicinal marijuna for crying out loud, you really think that state is going to side with the MLB?

Second, the steriods thing is a joke ( and for the record im not a Manny fan) because there is still no test for HGH. So while whoopy you found one idiot....how many others are laughing at him thinking....dude roids are so 2002, get with the program.

[SumItUp]

who is baseball to tell you that you can't take it or you will lose your job for 50 games. Id love to see that argued in court.

A court wouldn't even sniff the case. The Union and Management agreed on the drug testing. It's Manny's fault. He's an idiot.

[Hold My Own]

Manny will be playing in a Minor League game tonight....DONT WORRY THOUGH ESPN is there for you and will be breaking away from the College World Series for EVERY atbat



is that not retarded to anyone else? You're going to break away from a COLLEGE WORLD SERIES game for a minor league at bat from someone about to be reinstated for using steroids? What are they thinking?

[ToTheLeft]

Manny will be playing in a Minor League game tonight....DONT WORRY THOUGH ESPN is there for you and will be breaking away from the College World Series for EVERY atbat



is that not retarded to anyone else? You're going to break away from a COLLEGE WORLD SERIES game for a minor league at bat from someone about to be reinstated for using steroids? What are they thinking?

People will watch. It's all aboue ratings. More people in LA or that are Manny fans than Horns and Tigers fans combined.