[RubberMallet]

I dont want to sound like a Techy Snob nor am I making fun of anyone who actually has one (b/c I dont know if any of you do) but I feel like the HTC and HTC Pro are for those who've never had a smartphone and will never know better. If that makes sense....like those who are actually smart enough to look at processing speeds would hate life with that phone, but for someone who just traded in their Startac they are happy b/c they are one with the new generation

I loved my Star-Tac. I also had a Micro-Tac.

(I know. "of course you did")

still interested to hear how/why any of this stuff could help me.

no you are fine...don't worry about it...my father has an itouch he attempts to use as his daytimer (previously he used just that....a daytimer) and he is constantly confused and calling me and frustrated....

[ALUmnus]

Alums, if you're with Sprint and want some help I will....we'll meet up some time and I will speak to them as if I'm you. I've done that for some people in the AD at LU and they've all had luck. No promises but I've always had good luck. I'm also spending $160 a month with them for about 20 years now though. Although I've done it for people only spending $99 a month with no problems.

[flamesbball84]

http://gizmodo.com/5288488/smartphone-b ... f-the-best

Gizmodo provides a very good breakdown here, in terms of hardware, software, and cost. Pre might just be the phone of choice if I get a real job anytime soon. That differences in carrier cost for the unlimited plan is significantly in favor of the Palm Pre. Onyl thing that would make me change my mind in favor of the iPhone 3GS is the storage size, which none of the others can compete with.

[HenryGale]

I was at Best Buy tonight and checked out the Pre Display. Great sized phone, the biggest problem for me is the key pad is very small. Would be impossible to type on it. Gotta keep looking. Was really considering this when it came to Verizon in the fall.

[LUconn]

that's the kind of thing you just get used to. It may seem cramped at first but you probably won't even notice after a month.

[El Scorcho]

Best Review I've seen yet, and it's only Part 1...

Ars Reviews the Palm Pre, part 1: the BlackBerry killer

By Jon Stokes | Last updated June 10, 2009 11:40 PM CT

Most of the gadget press is obsessing over whether the Palm Pre is an iPhone killer, but they're asking the wrong question. We've been testing one for the past few days, and it's clear to us that the real target of Palm's new phone is the BlackBerry. Here's how Palm will use the webOS to tackle the enterprise market.

Full Article: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/200 ... killer.ars

[Hold My Own]

Well, that makes me want to switch...



...really thinking about it now...

[flamesbball84]

that's the kind of thing you just get used to. It may seem cramped at first but you probably won't even notice after a month.

the iPod Touch virtual keyboard is pretty small when not in landscape mode and i've gotten used to that. now landscape mode is pretty good, but portrait mode takes more getting used to. i don't imagine the palm pre is that much smaller than the iPhone in portrait mode.

[flamesbball84]

basically, anyone who worked on the palm pre should get a huge raise, they most likely just saved the company from going under.

[El Scorcho]

basically, anyone who worked on the palm pre should get a huge raise, they most likely just saved the company from going under.

The overall success of the product can be directly attributed to one man and they just made him their CEO. He used to be the head of the iPod and Macintosh divisions at Apple. Yeah. Killer hire for Palm.

[HenryGale]

that's the kind of thing you just get used to. It may seem cramped at first but you probably won't even notice after a month.

the iPod Touch virtual keyboard is pretty small when not in landscape mode and i've gotten used to that. now landscape mode is pretty good, but portrait mode takes more getting used to. i don't imagine the palm pre is that much smaller than the iPhone in portrait mode.

Now I have an IPod Touch, and i think the keyboard is easier to type on than the Palm. Even it Portrait mode.

[flamesbball84]

basically, anyone who worked on the palm pre should get a huge raise, they most likely just saved the company from going under.

The overall success of the product can be directly attributed to one man and they just made him their CEO. He used to be the head of the iPod and Macintosh divisions at Apple. Yeah. Killer hire for Palm.

That guy clearly knew what he was doing at Apple, that's for sure, so whoever had the final say as to if he was hired should get a big raise, even though saying "yes" to the hiring decision seems like a no brainer.

[ALUmnus]

A friend of mine at church just got the Pre last week....FOR FREE. Punk, the guy has never paid for a phone with Sprint. He has them under his thumb, he works his magic better than HMO. (and after HMO, he has more connections than anyone else I know)

But he showed me a bunch of the features, and I think I've just about made my choice. Really his only complaint was battery life. Now I have to figure out how to get a free one and then convince my wife to go with Sprint.

[RubberMallet]

the only thing i liked about sprint was the customer retention. before i left them, i call their customer retention department and they offered me 200 more minutes, 2 free palm centros....you just keep saying no.

[flamesbball84]

another reason why to get a pre and not an iPhone

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/18/atandt-i ... r-a-price/

Citing an exclusive source from within AT&T, appmodo reports that "tethering support is coming later this summer" is AT&T-speak for "tethering support is coming at the end of July."

It won't be coming cheaply, however; appmodo's source says a tethering option will cost AT&T customers a whopping $55 a month.

While this is cheaper than the $70 rumor that's been making the rounds, it still strikes me as ridiculous that AT&T is charging additional money for this option in the first place. Considering their "unlimited" data plan is reportedly only unlimited until you reach 5 GB or so in any given month, it seems preposterous for AT&T to charge their customers an extra fee to use the iPhone to access the internet via tethering. But, since AT&T's wrangling caused Skype to be restricted to WiFi only and SlingPlayer Mobile to be almost totally crippled compared to the same software on different models of smartphones running on AT&T's network, perhaps this shouldn't come as a surprise.

[Hold My Own]

Im out here in vegas and my track ball on my blackberry went bad...went to the sprint store expecting to get a Pre but they were out and had track ball replacements instead....so close...so close

[ALUmnus]

Even Lynchburg has more than one Sprint store, you didn't try hard enough.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Im out here in vegas and my track ball on my blackberry went bad...went to the sprint store expecting to get a Pre but they were out and had track ball replacements instead....so close...so close

As much as i have complained and am still waiting if you get one, Im gonna find that old white guy in the commercial and punch him in the mouth.

[Hold My Own]

Even Lynchburg has more than one Sprint store, you didn't try hard enough.

I refuse to take taxi's unless I have to....and walking 6 miles was enough for me...plus I generally buy all of mine over the phone...in storre has never been to good for me

[El Scorcho]

another reason why to get a pre and not an iPhone

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/18/atandt-i ... r-a-price/

Citing an exclusive source from within AT&T, appmodo reports that "tethering support is coming later this summer" is AT&T-speak for "tethering support is coming at the end of July."

It won't be coming cheaply, however; appmodo's source says a tethering option will cost AT&T customers a whopping $55 a month.

While this is cheaper than the $70 rumor that's been making the rounds, it still strikes me as ridiculous that AT&T is charging additional money for this option in the first place. Considering their "unlimited" data plan is reportedly only unlimited until you reach 5 GB or so in any given month, it seems preposterous for AT&T to charge their customers an extra fee to use the iPhone to access the internet via tethering. But, since AT&T's wrangling caused Skype to be restricted to WiFi only and SlingPlayer Mobile to be almost totally crippled compared to the same software on different models of smartphones running on AT&T's network, perhaps this shouldn't come as a surprise.

Uh, no. You can't tether a Pre either.

I also don't buy that it'll be anywhere near $55-70 for tethering the iPhone. If it is, I'll eat crow but I think that'd only be AT&T trying to guarantee that no one will use it, which may be what they want.

[LUconn]

another reason why to get a pre and not an iPhone

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/18/atandt-i ... r-a-price/

Citing an exclusive source from within AT&T, appmodo reports that "tethering support is coming later this summer" is AT&T-speak for "tethering support is coming at the end of July."

It won't be coming cheaply, however; appmodo's source says a tethering option will cost AT&T customers a whopping $55 a month.

While this is cheaper than the $70 rumor that's been making the rounds, it still strikes me as ridiculous that AT&T is charging additional money for this option in the first place. Considering their "unlimited" data plan is reportedly only unlimited until you reach 5 GB or so in any given month, it seems preposterous for AT&T to charge their customers an extra fee to use the iPhone to access the internet via tethering. But, since AT&T's wrangling caused Skype to be restricted to WiFi only and SlingPlayer Mobile to be almost totally crippled compared to the same software on different models of smartphones running on AT&T's network, perhaps this shouldn't come as a surprise.

Uh, no. You can't tether a Pre either.

I also don't buy that it'll be anywhere near $55-70 for tethering the iPhone. If it is, I'll eat crow but I think that'd only be AT&T trying to guarantee that no one will use it, which may be what they want.

Do apps have to be approved by apple in any way? Verizon charges something like $20-$30/month for tethering but I'm posting right now tethering through tetherberry. It was a $50 app that gets around tethering fees.

[Rooster Cogburn]

Help the Windows Mobile guy, Tethering?

[flamesbball84]

another reason why to get a pre and not an iPhone

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/18/atandt-i ... r-a-price/

Uh, no. You can't tether a Pre either.

I also don't buy that it'll be anywhere near $55-70 for tethering the iPhone. If it is, I'll eat crow but I think that'd only be AT&T trying to guarantee that no one will use it, which may be what they want.

Do apps have to be approved by apple in any way? Verizon charges something like $20-$30/month for tethering but I'm posting right now tethering through tetherberry. It was a $50 app that gets around tethering fees.

Yes, all apps have to be approved by Apple. Every single one. Which is why it takes forever for apps to get to the app store

[El Scorcho]

Do apps have to be approved by apple in any way? Verizon charges something like $20-$30/month for tethering but I'm posting right now tethering through tetherberry. It was a $50 app that gets around tethering fees.

Yes, but the easiest way around that for the iPhone is to jailbreak the phone and install whatever you want, including free tethering apps. Although today Engadget posted a link on how to update your carrier profile (as simple as opening a file) such that tethering is enabled.

My point is that there are ways around it if you're slightly technically inclined. For other people, they'll have to wait on AT&T.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

My Pre Is here! Going to roanoke to pick it up this afternoon