[Th3rd]

Tip I shared with TBGBG that will be your best friend. Use firefox get the add on "Download helper" and go to www.hiphopearly.com every day...your rap life will change

ok i will do this, i get most of my mixtape stuff from rapgodfathers.com

Its not released if its not on there at some point. They even get snippet leaks like when Weezy will only lay one verse for a song for someone else


And if you see like 5 weezy songs in 1 day or 5 Em songs or whatever that generally means a mixtape was released so I then check Dapiff website and download it...they allow 3 a day

RFG has a lot of leaks and a lot of good mixtapes and albums

[Hold My Own]

Em just dropped a 30 track mixtape called The 3 Tox FYI

[Th3rd]

Em just dropped a 30 track mixtape called The 3 Tox FYI

another 30 track one? dang he had one about a month and a half ago that was also 30

[Hold My Own]

I dont think its an official one...I will look on wiki to see so Im sure its a lot of what you heard


hes no doubt been in the booth working recently

[Th3rd]

yea according to a couple credible sources there will be another single for everyone who hated We Made You, its called 3AM

[jcmanson]

What do you guys think is the greatest album ever?

[Hold My Own]

In no order:

No Way Out
Chronic 2001
American Gangster
Black Album
It's Dark & Hell is Hot

[Hold My Own]

Another thing that I failed to mention about being the greatest of all time is you HAVE to write your own stuff. It's part of the art of the music. Em rarely writes his own stuff. Weezy, Jay and people like that maybe have appeared on 1 or 2 songs out of 3000 that they have not written

[jcmanson]

In no order:

No Way Out
Chronic 2001
American Gangster
Black Album
It's Dark & Hell is Hot

When I first saw your list before you updated it, I was like no love for the Black Album???

The Black Album is my favorite of all time.

[jcmanson]

Another thing that I failed to mention about being the greatest of all time is you HAVE to write your own stuff. It's part of the art of the music.

[Hold My Own]

In no order:

No Way Out
Chronic 2001
American Gangster
Black Album
It's Dark & Hell is Hot

When I first saw your list before you updated it, I was like no love for the Black Album???

The Black Album is my favorite of all time.

Yeah, anytime you have to release an accapella (sp?) version so people can remix it you know you have something hot....The Grey Album is SICK

here is a list of people who sampled the Black album and keep in mind this is only in the last 6 years

* T.I.'s "Bring Em Out", based on a line from "What More Can I Say", which Jay-Z in turn got line from The Notorious B.I.G. & Tracy Lee song "Keep Your Hands High".
* Joe Budden's "Stuntin'", also based on a line from "What More Can I Say".
* Cassidy's "I'm a Hustla" and Juvenile's "Way I Be Leanin'", both based on respective lines from "Dirt Off Your Shoulder".
* Clipse's "Number One Supplier", based on a line from "Public Service Announcement".
* Clipse's "Where You Been", based on a line from "Threat".
* Gillie Da Kid's "Holla Back," based on a line from "Moment of Clarity".
* Beanie Sigel's "All the Above" uses "Public Service Announcement (Interlude)" for a line on the track.
* Freeway's "It's Over" chorus based on a line in "Encore".

[RubberMallet]

you have to look at Eminem songs and Shady songs differently though, they are 2 different entities, Shady is the crazy one, Em is the serious one

pfff roflcopter

[RubberMallet]

maybe its just because i'm 30 yrs old and think most of todays rap is completely terrible, but weezy aint' that great, eminem has fallen off big time and jayz i great but he isn't the greatest.

krs one
Gift of Gab
bizzy bone
busta rhymes
Imani
Bootie Brown
dre
the method
qtip
raekwon
mos def

all in my top 20

[ToTheLeft]

Seriously... no John Reuben? KJ-52? Cmon guys...

Knowdaverbs?

You're missing some good ones.

[Th3rd]

Another thing that I failed to mention about being the greatest of all time is you HAVE to write your own stuff. It's part of the art of the music. Em rarely writes his own stuff. Weezy, Jay and people like that maybe have appeared on 1 or 2 songs out of 3000 that they have not written

i have always heard it the other way around with Weezy having all the ghostwriters and Em writes all his own stuff, which is more logical because out of 3000 you think at some point you just get bored... Em writes all the classics though he has the papers where he has written them still, pick up the dudes biography

[Hold My Own]

He's not credited with a single song on The Eminem Show which might be his best work yet

[Th3rd]

He's not credited with a single song on The Eminem Show which might be his best work yet

hmm idk, i would rather have him admit he doesnt write some stuff then lie about it though

Dre doesnt write his own stuff either though, probably the same thing Em picked up, he gets like 5 guys in the booth with ideas and then tweaks it to his liking

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Sorry ive been out and havent had time...

Top 10 rappers (in no particular order) in my book

Jay Z
Weezy
Jeezy
T.I.
Ludacris
Bun B
Pimp C
Scarface
Juelz Santana
Plies

I might be forgetting some but all of those are in there for different reasons, and I know plies will arise as a question, but dude is the REALIST in rap.

Best Albums ever in no particular order (no mixtapes)

Cronic 2001
Black Album
American Gangster
Carter III
Blueprint
Kings of Crunk
Thug Motivation 101-Jeezy
Trill; II Trill-Bun B

Those are just albums I can listen to all the way through without stopping, and Im sure there are more.

and if T-Pain qualifies as a rapper that dude is a monster

and I think there are a lot of guys who should be on the list because they have had a few hits and have made success because of their catalog over the years. Like Trick Daddy, Three 6, E-40 (who i cant stand), the YoungBloodz, Nelly (has a few decent tracks, but dude sells albums), Pitbull (who integrated the spanish language into rap).

Lastly just a few others who dont make the top list that will blow your mind every once in a while:

Rick Ross
Petey Pablo
Lil Keke (houston)
Slim Thug (Houston)

you can not say that weezy is the worst thing thats happened to rap. He respects the greats, the greats respect him, he gives classics ON MIXTAPES, he does the rock thing, he doesnt write, and I can never say that I have wasted money on a wayne album when i buy it because its sick and he respects the fan enough that his mixtapes are FREE just because of the love for music.

Eminem had a few good songs, I just hate DUMB rap and thats most of his stuff... If all his albums were like his first hes in the top 5.

Oh an Lloyd Banks is a MONSTER. 50 is the worst rapper in G-Unit.

And I really feelin this new dude Drake. If you havent heard him look up uptown ft. wayne and bun b on youtube. dude is nice.


Let the Questions begin...

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

He's not credited with a single song on The Eminem Show which might be his best work yet

Weezy on the eminem track that hes on makes that album. Weezy makes the best track on the latest Luda album.

ONE OF EMINEM'S BEST TRACKS WAS BECAUSE JAY Z BLESSED IT WITH A VERSE.

[Hold My Own]

Renegade I guess your talking about....and well....Em ripped that thing as much as i hate to say it!

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Renegade I guess your talking about....and well....Em ripped that thing as much as i hate to say it!

Oh he did, I wont hate on it. but it wouldnt have been half as hot without a blessing from Jay.
Another thing, you know you are the best when your concerts are done mainly by a live orchestra!

[Th3rd]

my biggest question is how is Illmatic not on the albums list, and yet you have 2 Jay albums... unless you are talking about Blueprint by KRS.

I would also put Infinite on that list just because it changed the outlook on white rappers

I agree to the point that Eminem is not for easy listening at all, that may be something against him but you deff cant throw him on and just chill out which i feel is the only aspect he lacks, most of his songs are just to hard to truly just relax which Hip-Hop should also be able to do. Thats why i have a diverse liking in Hip-Hop with people like Freeway and Murs.

Rick Ross has some great stuff out there, but 50 won that beef.. the main song i remember from the beef is Officer Ricky. If Ross goes after Em his career will be over. Period.

Em has ended more careers then any other rapper that i know of, correct me if i am wrong but lets look at the list

Cage
Benzino
Everlast
Canibus
Ja Rule

and there are some others but these are the noteables

[jcmanson]

Petey Pablo

Everytime someone mentions him all I can think is:

Come on n raise up, take your shirt off, twist it round yo hand spin it like a helicopter.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

I would quote you 3rd but im in class with a bad connection and it will take forever

50 won the beef, but for Ross to come back with Maybach Music 2 and his new album it just shows it didnt set him back at all.

Em has ended a lot of careers but no one goes after you if you are a MONSTER. Jay and Wayne never have anyone of worth trying to put them down because they know it will be over. "YOU DONT WANNA GO TO WAR WITH A GIANT"

50 to me punked out because Wayne directly went at him and he said nothing, I think thats smart in any other scenario but not when you take shots at people on a regular basis, you cant ignore it. 50's career was killed by Kanye, lets be honest.

OK YOURE A GOON BUT WHATS A GOON TO A GOBLIN.



Sidenote: Johnny Steph (mens bball) is a rapper and Ive heard one that he did over the a milli beat, and DUDE IS NICE. Im suprised, big ups to Johnny.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Petey Pablo

Everytime someone mentions him all I can think is:

Come on n raise up, take your shirt off, twist it round yo hand spin it like a helicopter.

If you listen to his albums though... They are solid all the way through. and he did a track with wayne on waynes 500 degreez which is one of my all time favorites. But then he signed with Death Row so his career is over.