Departing Assistant Coaches: Wachenheim, Wimberly & Wilt

#231862

By RagingTireFire - February 6th, 2009, 12:12 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 12:12 pm #231862

jcmanson wrote:I hate to be pessimistic, but this could be the sign or start of some bigger problem or issue.

Go ahead, chew me out.

Are you kidding? We were overdue to lose people. Keeping the exact same staff for three years at a winning program is nearly unheard of.

Is this mercy-killing or cross-pollenation?
Only the strawberry knows.

#231902

By Ranger - February 6th, 2009, 3:51 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 3:51 pm #231902

I just talked to some guys on the team and they said that we are picking up the UVA defensive line coach - in other words, they seem to be switching places.

Anybody heard anything on that?

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#231905

By LUconn - February 6th, 2009, 3:56 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 3:56 pm #231905

We're like the UVA minor league.

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#231907

By PAmedic - February 6th, 2009, 3:59 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 3:59 pm #231907

Chris Lang wrote:medic and rocco apparently share a brain.

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#231911

By treyjman24 - February 6th, 2009, 4:36 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 4:36 pm #231911

any other word on who the replacements are?

#231917

By Chris Lang - February 6th, 2009, 5:26 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 5:26 pm #231917

Rocco said he hopes to have the full staff together and announced by Feb. 16.

#231919

By Fumblerooskies - February 6th, 2009, 5:39 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 5:39 pm #231919

The one PLUS to coming out of is that Coach Rocco is showing his assistants leave for bigger and better...and that is going to indicate that LU is a place for an up-an-coming talented assistant to go and be developed.

#231922

By Hold My Own - February 6th, 2009, 5:45 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 5:45 pm #231922

I could see our QB's coach moving up...I have talked to some who feel he's ready...does LCA have anyone that could fill that position if it indeed opens up?

I know it's wishful thinking but boy how great that would be

Sly Fox wrote:In my experience with the Falwell family over the past 30+ years, they have never been shy about stating what they believe and standing by it. If anything it should be on their family crest.

#231924

By SuperJon - February 6th, 2009, 5:50 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 5:50 pm #231924

Hold My Own wrote:I could see our QB's coach moving up...I have talked to some who feel he's ready...does LCA have anyone that could fill that position if it indeed opens up? I know it's wishful thinking but boy how great that would be

If Street gets the OC position, he'll still be the quarterbacks coach. It's just like Wach coached the offensive line. He may be the coordinator, but he's still a position coach.

#231927

By Hold My Own - February 6th, 2009, 5:55 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 5:55 pm #231927

Yeah, for a first year guy to be a OC though I still wouldnt mind getting someone else in there to take some of the work load off of him...not saying it has to be rocco it could be someone younger or whatever but I wouldnt mind seeing that work load as small as possible for his first year...Wach's been around and him tackling both isnt the same as a younger guy who's still getting adjusted

Sly Fox wrote:In my experience with the Falwell family over the past 30+ years, they have never been shy about stating what they believe and standing by it. If anything it should be on their family crest.

#231928

By olldflame - February 6th, 2009, 5:56 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 5:56 pm #231928

SuperJon wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:I could see our QB's coach moving up...I have talked to some who feel he's ready...does LCA have anyone that could fill that position if it indeed opens up? I know it's wishful thinking but boy how great that would be
If Street gets the OC position, he'll still be the quarterbacks coach. It's just like Wach coached the offensive line. He may be the coordinator, but he's still a position coach.

Which would leave openings at O-line, D-line, linebackers and special teams.

#231932

By SuperJon - February 6th, 2009, 6:08 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 6:08 pm #231932

Hold My Own wrote:Yeah, for a first year guy to be a OC though I still wouldnt mind getting someone else in there to take some of the work load off of him...not saying it has to be rocco it could be someone younger or whatever but I wouldnt mind seeing that work load as small as possible for his first year...Wach's been around and him tackling both isnt the same as a younger guy who's still getting adjusted

You have to remember the FCS programs are only allowed ten coaches.

Theoretically, yes you could do have him as only an OC, but then you lose an EXTREMELY valuable asset in him as quarterbacks coach. He was already passing game coordinator so stepping up and taking over the entire offense wouldn't be too much of a struggle. He is the son of a coach. He was a three-time academic honor roll member in the ACC. He's also coached running backs before so the run-game is not new to him. Street may be young, but I don't think he needs any type of grace period.

If you've got a new kid running the offense, which we will, wouldn't you think it was beneficial for the guy running the offense to be their main teacher and main positional coach?

#231933

By SuperJon - February 6th, 2009, 6:09 pm

- February 6th, 2009, 6:09 pm #231933

olldflame wrote:
SuperJon wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:I could see our QB's coach moving up...I have talked to some who feel he's ready...does LCA have anyone that could fill that position if it indeed opens up? I know it's wishful thinking but boy how great that would be
If Street gets the OC position, he'll still be the quarterbacks coach. It's just like Wach coached the offensive line. He may be the coordinator, but he's still a position coach.
Which would leave openings at O-line, D-line, linebackers and special teams.

Remember that special teams is usually covered by a positional coach or the head coach at some places (see: Coastal Carolina).

#231967

By bozlady - February 7th, 2009, 10:28 am

- February 7th, 2009, 10:28 am #231967

Haven't seen this posted anywhere but it's a great write up on Wach joining the Redskins staff but lots of love given out to LU. Even the picture of Wach is a great one ~ specifically the cap he's wearing showing our logo and all

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Re ... _31803.jsp

#232022

By jcmanson - February 7th, 2009, 1:44 pm

- February 7th, 2009, 1:44 pm #232022

I think in sports we generally underestimate the value in assistant coaches, particularly in football, and continuity.

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#232036

By bigsmooth - February 7th, 2009, 4:33 pm

- February 7th, 2009, 4:33 pm #232036

Congrats to Chad. he is certainly deserving. as others said the UVA coach is ex-assistant Levern Belin who was fired in the assistant coach shake-up at UVA recently.

UVa adds Wilt to football staff
The former Cavaliers grad assistant has spent the last three seasons as a defensive aide at Liberty.
By Doug Doughty
981-3129

For Virginia head football coach Al Groh, one of the major selling points for new defensive-line coach Chad Wilt is that "he's spent five years in our system."

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/uvafootball/wb/193899

#232398

By RagingTireFire - February 8th, 2009, 7:30 pm

- February 8th, 2009, 7:30 pm #232398

bigsmooth wrote: the UVA coach is ex-assistant Levern Belin who was fired in the assistant coach shake-up at UVA recently.

Quick resume comparison says that Belin has been in the same program as Rocco three times prior. Played at Wake Forest when Rocco was D-Line coach there -- which means it's likely that Rocco had a hand in recruiting him -- , GA'ed at Boston College when Rocco was DL and was D-Line coach himself at UVa in '05. Additionally, Belin worked at W&M from '01-'03, the same years that Tom Clark was Defensive Coordinator there.

In one sense, it seems fortunate for us that UVa fired him since it looks like he's the perfect person to step into Wilt's sizeable shoes.

Is this mercy-killing or cross-pollenation?
Only the strawberry knows.

#233421

By flafan - February 12th, 2009, 10:21 pm

- February 12th, 2009, 10:21 pm #233421

They will all be missed.

#233450

By Hold My Own - February 13th, 2009, 1:19 am

- February 13th, 2009, 1:19 am #233450

The names on this list will be a very happy sign for the future of Flames Football....it proves we're now a power house in DI-AA

Sly Fox wrote:In my experience with the Falwell family over the past 30+ years, they have never been shy about stating what they believe and standing by it. If anything it should be on their family crest.