[sweetnahmah1]

Can't ask for a better POY effort from Anthony in those waning seconds last night.

[Schfourteenteen]

Well he could have scored all 12 instead of just 8 in one minute

[Schfourteenteen]

Also, Smitty is now 10th in scoring all time at LU. - 1516

[jcmanson]

Ant needs 6 points to pass Larry Jackson for 9th all-time and for 3rd in D1 scoring, and 12 points to bypass Willard Deshazor for 8th all-time in scoring.

[jcmanson]

Anthony Smith dished out his 200th career helper on Wednesday at Gardner-Webb, making him the first player in Liberty program history with at least 1,000 career points, 500 career rebounds and 200 career assists.

[TDDance234]

I think when Anthony is gone, we're really going to look back and realize just how good of a player he's been for us. It's kind of one of those 'you don't know what you got until it's gone' things.

I think he has a legit claim to one of the 5 best LU players ever.

[olldflame]

One of you young whipper-snappers that know how to do that "facebook" thingamajig needs to start a group called "Please Anthony Shoot More"

12 shots in 2 games for the preseason POY and our best percentage shooter is not enough!!

[dompennix]

One of you young whipper-snappers that know how to do that "facebook" thingamajig needs to start a group called "Please Anthony Shoot More"

12 shots in 2 games for the preseason POY and our best percentage shooter is not enough!!

Somebody does need to start that group

[jcmanson]

I think when Anthony is gone, we're really going to look back and realize just how good of a player he's been for us. It's kind of one of those 'you don't know what you got until it's gone' things.

I think he has a legit claim to one of the 5 best LU players ever.

I agree with you. I think the main reason why this is, is due to him always being in someone else’s shadow. His first 2 years it was Blair. Last year it was Alex and TeeJay. This year, it’s Seth.

[paradox]

I think when Anthony is gone, we're really going to look back and realize just how good of a player he's been for us. It's kind of one of those 'you don't know what you got until it's gone' things.

I think he has a legit claim to one of the 5 best LU players ever.

If you take the top 5, according to the position that they mostly played, then Anthony has to be on that team as the all-time player at the 3 position.

Going by position played, an all-time team could look something like this:

1. Hildebrand
2. Curry
3. Smith
4. Coleman
5. Aluma

[TDDance234]

Hard to leave LB off of that list.

[olldflame]

You're a trip dox. Sure Seth is terrific, but to have him as your best 2 guard over LB after less than a full season, is just silly. Is he better as a Freshman. sure. Will he break all of LB's records and be a better player before he leaves. No doubt. You just don't put someone on your all time team after less than a season.

By that logic, you could make a very strong argument that our best power forward ever was Parrish Hickman.

[paradox]

Hard to leave LB off of that list.

Remember now, I said best by position. If you wanna say the five greatest players, then LB's on the list.


Blair played the 2, and until this year, he was the top guy at that position as far as I'm concerned. But right now, I'd have to say that Curry is the best 2 that I've seen play at LU. And when it's all said and done he'll likely be the best LU player ever.

Also, I think that a valid argument can be made for Gabe Martin at the four, but he only played one year there, however, that one year was as good as any. So again, I think a vaild argument can be made for Gabe.

It's not like LU has this big-time history of final fours and such. Our BB history is remarkably weak. Let's not kid ourselves about our past. We have only two NCAA appearances, and one really memorable game in the '94 tourney. That's why names like Aluma & Hildebrand still resonate over Seth, but I think that Seth will eventually move beyond that level.

[ALUmnus]

I think when Anthony is gone, we're really going to look back and realize just how good of a player he's been for us. It's kind of one of those 'you don't know what you got until it's gone' things.

I think he has a legit claim to one of the 5 best LU players ever.

I agree with you. I think the main reason why this is, is due to him always being in someone else’s shadow. His first 2 years it was Blair. Last year it was Alex and TeeJay. This year, it’s Seth.

Doesn't this completely contradict the "5 best players" argument? The guy was never even the headline act during his 4 years. Yes, he is the best player on this years team, but one of the 5 best ever? Come on. You guys watch too much espn.

[sweetnahmah1]

You're a trip dox. Sure Seth is terrific, but to have him as your best 2 guard over LB after less than a full season, is just silly. Is he better as a Freshman. sure. Will he break all of LB's records and be a better player before he leaves. No doubt. You just don't put someone on your all time team after less than a season.

By that logic, you could make a very strong argument that our best power forward ever was Parrish Hickman.

And Brewington was the best 3 we've ever had.

[jcmanson]

I think when Anthony is gone, we're really going to look back and realize just how good of a player he's been for us. It's kind of one of those 'you don't know what you got until it's gone' things.

I think he has a legit claim to one of the 5 best LU players ever.

I agree with you. I think the main reason why this is, is due to him always being in someone else’s shadow. His first 2 years it was Blair. Last year it was Alex and TeeJay. This year, it’s Seth.

Doesn't this completely contradict the "5 best players" argument? The guy was never even the headline act during his 4 years. Yes, he is the best player on this years team, but one of the 5 best ever? Come on. You guys watch too much espn.

I wasn't necessarily agreeing with one of the 5 best LU players ever. I was agreeing that we have underappreciated him during his career.

As for the top 5, I don't think so, but his numbers do merit discussions about him being included among the top 5.

[jcmanson]

And Brewington was the best 3 we've ever had.

Ahh Brewington. The way he was misused was one of RD's chief follies. With Brew, LB, Smitty, and Alex that should be a championship team.

[paradox]

You're a trip dox. Sure Seth is terrific, but to have him as your best 2 guard over LB after less than a full season, is just silly. Is he better as a Freshman. sure. Will he break all of LB's records and be a better player before he leaves. No doubt. You just don't put someone on your all time team after less than a season.

By that logic, you could make a very strong argument that our best power forward ever was Parrish Hickman.

And Brewington was the best 3 we've ever had.

You can make an agument that he may have been the best 6th man for LU. Of course, Smith played the 3 that year.

[sweetnahmah1]

You're a trip dox. Sure Seth is terrific, but to have him as your best 2 guard over LB after less than a full season, is just silly. Is he better as a Freshman. sure. Will he break all of LB's records and be a better player before he leaves. No doubt. You just don't put someone on your all time team after less than a season.

By that logic, you could make a very strong argument that our best power forward ever was Parrish Hickman.

And Brewington was the best 3 we've ever had.

You can make an agument that he may have been the best 6th man for LU. Of course, Smith played the 3 that year.

Twas a joke. Of course.

[paradox]

I agree with you. I think the main reason why this is, is due to him always being in someone else’s shadow. His first 2 years it was Blair. Last year it was Alex and TeeJay. This year, it’s Seth.

Doesn't this completely contradict the "5 best players" argument? The guy was never even the headline act during his 4 years. Yes, he is the best player on this years team, but one of the 5 best ever? Come on. You guys watch too much espn.

I wasn't necessarily agreeing with one of the 5 best LU players ever. I was agreeing that we have underappreciated him during his career.

As for the top 5, I don't think so, but his numbers do merit discussions about him being included among the top 5.

The original point that I was making about Anthony is that he mostly played the 3, and he pretty much stands alone as the top guy to play that position at LU. Therefore, he should be remembered fondly. And let's not forget that this season isn't over yet. There could be something special on the horizon. And if there is, it isn't going to happen without a strong contribution from Anthony.

[olldflame]

Gabe played 2 years for LU dox.

If we were to live in the past and play the "numbers game" like certain coaches have:

1 = point guard

2 = shooting guard

3 = small forward

4 = power forward

5 = post/center

then Anthony would be near the top of the list as a 3. This entire scheme of things is passe in the Richie McKay era, where for the most part the best 5 players start, guards rebound, power forwards shoot 3's and players in general fill multiple roles.

Smitty has had a great career, but IMHO he does not belong on the list of 5 all time starters, even if you try to squeeze players into these silly little categories. Not in place of the likes of LB, Bailey Alston, or Julius Nwosu.

[Schfourteenteen]

All Time LU starting Lineup


1)Damien Hubbard - Tall PG's make great teams!

2)Larry Blair - we need someone to shoot 90% of the shots at 40%

3)The Clipboard - Plays great defense, Players never see him coming

4)Armon Jones - The work ethic of a champion

5)Russell Monroe - Best practice player of all time


6)Jeremy Eck - Because no LU list is complete without Jeremy Eck

[paradox]

Gabe played 2 years for LU dox.

If we were to live in the past and play the "numbers game" like certain coaches have:

1 = point guard

2 = shooting guard

3 = small forward

4 = power forward

5 = post/center

then Anthony would be near the top of the list as a 3. This entire scheme of things is passe in the Richie McKay era, where for the most part the best 5 players start, guards rebound, power forwards shoot 3's and players in general fill multiple roles.

Smitty has had a great career, but IMHO he does not belong on the list of 5 all time starters, even if you try to squeeze players into these silly little categories. Not in place of the likes of LB, Bailey Alston, or Julius Nwosu.

Ok, so who was the best that played the 3, if not Anthony? The fact remains he played the 3, and he played it better than anyone that ever played here. Last season solidfied that. Gabe played 3 one year, but his best year was the championship year when he played 4.

If you were the best at your position, I think that it means something. Anthony was/is the best 3 in LU history as far as I'm concerned.

[ALUmnus]

I think oldflame's point is that we really don't have anyone playing the traditional "3", so how could you put him into that category?

[paradox]

Simple. He had three very productive seasons there, including last year, which was amazing. If anything, he is a more complete 3 now than he has ever been before because of the development of his inside game this year as a 4-gaurd.

This season is unique with the five starting gaurds, but it doesn't change anything in past history where all of those categories exist.