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We discussed Meyer & Gordon's connection in the other forum. But this national story really calls out Jeff:
Sampson needs to back off Illinois recruit

Jeff Goodman / FOXSports.com
Posted: July 18, 2006


Everywhere Eric Gordon goes, he has shadows. The North Central (Indianapolis, Ind.) High standout guard, one of the elite players in the country, has been committed to Illinois for about a year now.

But Bruce Weber and the Illini staff aren't the only ones front and center for all of Gordon's games this summer.
Indiana assistant coach Jeff Meyer has been on Gordon in a manner that might make Bruce Bowen proud.

Sure, Meyer has a longstanding relationship with Eric Gordon Sr. from the days when he coached the elder Gordon at Liberty University. But Meyer's interest in Gordon has been overboard — especially with the cloud of scrutiny hanging over new Indiana coach Kelvin Sampson since his arrival in Bloomington.

Maybe Sampson isn't fully aware that this isn't football and that verbal commitments usually account for something in the land of the hardwood.

There's nothing wrong with Sampson making a call to Gordon's high school coach, Doug Mitchell, after he got the job at IU and taking the temperature of Gordon now that there's a new coach at the State U.

However, Sampson shouldn't have gone into the North Central High gym, armed with Meyer and fellow assistant Ray McCallum, within two weeks of getting the job. And he shouldn't be allowing Meyer to continue to focus on Gordon — as he did this past week when he attended every one of Gordon's games at the Peach Jam down in Augusta, S.C.

Not until Gordon comes forth publicly and says he's re-opening his recruitment.

That hasn't happened.

"I'm still committed to Illinois," Gordon Jr. said.

"Nothing's changed," Gordon Sr. said. "He's still with Illinois all the way."

Despite the recent confirmation from the Gordon camp, Gordon Sr. said that Indiana isn't the only school that made recent inquiries into his son's status.

"I had five major Division I coaches call me in the two days after the Adidas camp," Gordon Sr. said.

That may be true, but the only shadows that trailed Gordon from gym to gym were Illinois and Indiana.

However, the elder Gordon has likely communicated some level of interest to the guy who used to host dates between him and his wife while they were students at Liberty.

"I'm just curious as to what they are doing different than the last staff," Gordon Sr. said multiple times.

Well, for one thing, Gordon Sr. said he received more correspondence from the current staff in Bloomington in a matter of weeks than he did from Mike Davis and the previous regime in two-plus years.

One theory is that the elder Gordon just wants more attention for his son in an effort to boost his ranking. Another is that he doesn't want to upset the IU staff because he's got a younger son currently at North Central whom he wants to play for the Hoosiers someday.

Whatever the case, the bottom line here is that until Gordon and his spokesman (Gordon Sr.) make some sort of public announcement that he is re-opening his recruitment, Sampson should call off the dogs (um, Meyer).

Sampson needs to try and rehabilitate his image after the NCAA hit him with sanctions in the wake of him making too many phone calls during his time at Oklahoma. He's not doing a good job.

Sampson is on the NABC's Board of Directors and chaired a committee on ethics not too long ago. He's supposed to be a role model for the profession.

The sad part of all of this is that Eric Gordon Jr. is not only a terrific player, but also a delightful young man. However, those who don't know Gordon may not get an accurate read on him as a person because of the current situation and uncertainty.

"I don't know how it's gotten blown out of proportion," Gordon Sr. said.

Look in the mirror, Mr. Gordon, and have Sampson stand right beside you.

Jeff Goodman is a senior college basketball writer for FOXSports.com. He can be reached at GoodmanonFOX@aol.com.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/5794850
By Don't know anything
#21201
It calls out Jeff's boss... the kid would have gone to Indiana if Jeff was there last season and plus he hadn't signed a scholarship.... The writer is really calling out Sampson.
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By Sly Fox
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#21202
Indiana assistant coach Jeff Meyer has been on Gordon in a manner that might make Bruce Bowen proud.

Sure, Meyer has a longstanding relationship with Eric Gordon Sr. from the days when he coached the elder Gordon at Liberty University. But Meyer's interest in Gordon has been overboard...
That sure sounds like he is taking Jeff to task to me.
By SuperJon
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#21208
I'm sorry, but I agree completely with the article. Letting him know the differences and talking to him is one thing, following him around at an AAU tournament should be an NCAA violation.
By LUconn
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#21210
No way. Any coach who stops recruiting a kid after he's already verbaled to him is a fool. I don't even know what the point of a verbal is.
By SuperJon
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#21212
Yes, you should keep in contact with someone that has verballed to your school. However, a coach should not go after a kid that's verballed to another school the way Meyer is going after this kid. He's basically following him wherever he goes. That's a little much after the kid has verballed.
By Rocketfan
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#21239
You can RECRUIT someone and stay in touch with them, but this is called STALKING. You can just follow a kid to an AAU tourney who didn't ask you to shadow his every footstep, thats way overboard.
By Dorm 5
#21240
You guys have no clue, see kids commit and then decommit all the time... as a recruiter it's your job to "stalk" kids at these AAU events, every coach that wants a player really bad does it.... And you guys and the writer of the article, and myself really doesn't know what the kid is actually saying to the coaches recruiting him anyway... The kid is probably torn and Indiana shouldn't let up until Gordon comes out and reconfirms his commitment to Illinois
By LUconn
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truth
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By Sly Fox
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#21243
I'm in Dorm 5's camp. If Eric Sr calls off the dogs, then you back off. But that's not been the case to this point.
By A.G.
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#21248
I'd be in Dorm 5's camp if he'd go ahead and register.
#21250
"I'm just curious as to what they are doing different than the last staff," Gordon Sr. said multiple times.

That quote right there is the main kicker in my mind....I blame Gordon Sr, if he would say thanks Jeff for the interest but my son is keeping his word... then case close, since he has not fair game in my mind... Ronald Curry is one that sticks out in my mind during a game on ESPN he said that he was going to UVA, not so fast a few months later he made a great choice and became a Tar Heel... It just sticks that he couldn't make a lay-up on the court!!!!
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By SuperJon
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"I'm still committed to Illinois," Gordon Jr. said.

"Nothing's changed," Gordon Sr. said. "He's still with Illinois all the way."
How is that not reconfirming he's staying with Illinois?
By givemethemic
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#21259
He needs to tell Jeff that, and then stop saying that he is interested in what they are doing differently over there!!!! It's like a girl saying I am committed to my boyfriend, but hey, you want to go out later tonight... Gordon Sr, to me sounds like he is contridicting himself and just needs to be on one side of the fence and then this will all die!!!!
By Rocketfan
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So your initial verbal doesn't matter? You have to commit and then recommit.....its all getting clearer now..... :shock:
By Libertine
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Rocketfan wrote:So your initial verbal doesn't matter? You have to commit and then recommit.....its all getting clearer now..... :shock:
Yes. You've nailed it on the head, Rocket. Verbals mean absolutely nothing. The only actual 'commit' is when you sign the National Letter of Intent.
By givemethemic
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Yes he verbaled... but Gordon Sr, can't be saying this stuff even if he is curious "I'm just curious as to what they are doing different than the last staff," Gordon Sr. said multiple times. Any coach and hence why so many keep contacting him are not thinking that his verbal is 100% set in stones with comments like that... The minute he stops making those comments then it will die down, but he keeps saying it...So yes he is fair game in my mind untill Gordon Sr, nips this in the bud
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By SuperJon
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#21267
I guess I thought what the kid thought is what mattered, not what daddy wants. I could be wrong. The kid said "reconfirmed" he was going to Illinois in the article. Daddy just wants to keep the lines open for his second kid.
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By Sly Fox
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#21268
The second kid is coming to LU.

8)

Well, it'd be great if he did. Come on, Coach D.
By Libertine
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Sounds like Dad and the kid are sending mixed signals which is nothing new to college recruiting. Basically, it makes the kid look great to the boosters if he eventually sticks with the school he's committed to and keeps his options open at the same time. It's all part of the game.
By The other guest
#21278
Another kid from Arizona Jerred Bayless, decommitted from Arizona here recently after committing way back in the winter... now where is he going??? to Texas, the school that finished 2nd to Arizona previously.... These kids are 16 & 17 they really don't know what they want yet... Eric Jr. hasn't even started the 12th grade yet and he's played with 2 different AAU teams this summer already...

Sampson and his staff have to make a run at EJ just to show the Hoosier fans they will recruit that state hard!!

Sly, How do you know the 'guest' 'Dorm 5' & 'the other guest' are not the same person?
By SuperJon
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The other guest wrote: Sampson and his staff have to make a run at EJ just to show the Hoosier fans they will recruit that state hard!!

I don't think anyone says they shouldn't make a run at him, but stalking him around an AAU tournament is a bit much.
By Weirdo
#21281
SuperJon you don't know anything about anything you have no clue about "stalking" there is 9 other players on the court that the IU coach could be looking at.... you sound like the IU staff is some serial killers or kidnappers, the less you say the better.

Go ask RD what his staff does at these events.... they stalk their top prospects.
By SuperJon
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#21282
If a player hasn't verballed, then by all means, stalk away. If he has verballed, you can still recruit him but back off a little bit. Outside the Lines did a story on this last week and the older coaches were saying it's just a sign of respect and that coaches should back off some when someone verbals. I hate these anonymous jerks who don't have the balls to say who they really are the only show up when they disagree with something.
By LUconn
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#21283
I've always thought that it was pretty sad that even HOF coaches basically have to kiss a 16 or 17 year old's (or 35 year old in Greg Oden's case) butt for 2 years. It's pretty degrading. I think that's why some coaches aren't good recruiters.

This topic seems like it has struck a chord for some reason.
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