[Realist]

Who exactly are going to perform the low paying jobs to keep the city and port functioning?

Mexicans.

That made me laugh, but I'm pretty sure 99% of them would fall under "poor people."

[Hold My Own]

yes but they would save money on labor by rebuilding everything themselves...you have to think about these things!

[Sly Fox]

[Hold My Own]

coming from a Texan

[flamesbball84]

yes but they would save money on labor by rebuilding everything themselves...you have to think about these things!

LOL, and they would do it for like five cents an hour, and send three cents back to mexico, so they would be improvivng both the american and mexican economies!

[Fumblerooskies]

This guy does a nice job describing some of the sentiment down there:

The next time, my family will stay. I'm sure that Gov. Bobby Jindal, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Mayor Ray Nagin, Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard and all the other public officials mean well. I'm sure they thought it was a good idea to panic people into leaving. I'm sure they believe it's in the public's best interest to stay away while they clean up.

But the evacuation of the metro area in advance of Gustav, and the subsequent policies regarding re-entry, will guarantee that in the next major storm to strike the region - which may occur in a matter of days or weeks - many more people will be at risk. The slightest bit of vision, combined with an open ear to the anger and frustration of this hurricane-weary citizenry, would make the government officials responsible realize that they helped to make this happen.

News flash: We know it's dangerous to live here. We accept the possibility of no gas, no power, no readily available food. We're Katrina survivors. We'll figure it out.
But if the enduring image of Gustav is a U.S. soldier with an M-16 denying a citizen the right to return to his home, then you can pretty much write off the next "mandatory" evacuation. Leaving your home in advance of a storm is an extraordinarily stressful, difficult, traumatic and expensive proposition. The one thing that must be honored is that people must be allowed to return to their homes as soon as humanly possible.

http://blog.nola.com/editorials/2008/09 ... leave.html

[flamesbball84]

This guy does a nice job describing some of the sentiment down there:

The next time, my family will stay. I'm sure that Gov. Bobby Jindal, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Mayor Ray Nagin, Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard and all the other public officials mean well. I'm sure they thought it was a good idea to panic people into leaving. I'm sure they believe it's in the public's best interest to stay away while they clean up.

But the evacuation of the metro area in advance of Gustav, and the subsequent policies regarding re-entry, will guarantee that in the next major storm to strike the region - which may occur in a matter of days or weeks - many more people will be at risk. The slightest bit of vision, combined with an open ear to the anger and frustration of this hurricane-weary citizenry, would make the government officials responsible realize that they helped to make this happen.

News flash: We know it's dangerous to live here. We accept the possibility of no gas, no power, no readily available food. We're Katrina survivors. We'll figure it out.
But if the enduring image of Gustav is a U.S. soldier with an M-16 denying a citizen the right to return to his home, then you can pretty much write off the next "mandatory" evacuation. Leaving your home in advance of a storm is an extraordinarily stressful, difficult, traumatic and expensive proposition. The one thing that must be honored is that people must be allowed to return to their homes as soon as humanly possible.

http://blog.nola.com/editorials/2008/09 ... leave.html

And considering NO is one of the poorest places in the US, I imagine the expense for one family is even worse than it would be if Lynchburg, for example, would be forced to evacuate, which if his sentiment is indicative of most of the poorer folks down there, there will be a pretty high percentage of people not evacuating then.

Oh, and Ike isn't forecasted to hit the US according to the weather channel this morning, so unless Hurricane J comes through there I dont think they'll be getting something in the next couple weeks.

[Hold My Own]

Stay in NO during the hurricane if you want...but you better not be the idiot on CNN crying saying the govt isnt doing enough to help you if if that levy breaks...I saw where he said "we understand it's dangerous to live here" but I didnt see any other reasons as to why he would choose to stay in that danger rather than moving....but that was interesting none the less

[RubberMallet]

waaaaa you didnt' help fast enough

waaaaa you helped too fast

People that are given everything appreciate nothing...

[Realist]

This guy does a nice job describing some of the sentiment down there:

The next time, my family will stay. I'm sure that Gov. Bobby Jindal, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Mayor Ray Nagin, Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard and all the other public officials mean well. I'm sure they thought it was a good idea to panic people into leaving. I'm sure they believe it's in the public's best interest to stay away while they clean up.

But the evacuation of the metro area in advance of Gustav, and the subsequent policies regarding re-entry, will guarantee that in the next major storm to strike the region - which may occur in a matter of days or weeks - many more people will be at risk. The slightest bit of vision, combined with an open ear to the anger and frustration of this hurricane-weary citizenry, would make the government officials responsible realize that they helped to make this happen.

News flash: We know it's dangerous to live here. We accept the possibility of no gas, no power, no readily available food. We're Katrina survivors. We'll figure it out.
But if the enduring image of Gustav is a U.S. soldier with an M-16 denying a citizen the right to return to his home, then you can pretty much write off the next "mandatory" evacuation. Leaving your home in advance of a storm is an extraordinarily stressful, difficult, traumatic and expensive proposition. The one thing that must be honored is that people must be allowed to return to their homes as soon as humanly possible.

http://blog.nola.com/editorials/2008/09 ... leave.html

And considering NO is one of the poorest places in the US, I imagine the expense for one family is even worse than it would be if Lynchburg, for example, would be forced to evacuate, which if his sentiment is indicative of most of the poorer folks down there, there will be a pretty high percentage of people not evacuating then.

Oh, and Ike isn't forecasted to hit the US according to the weather channel this morning, so unless Hurricane J comes through there I dont think they'll be getting something in the next couple weeks.

Median family income, New Orleans: 46,000

Median family income, Lynchburg: 40,000



Again, you are a complete and total idiot.

[Hold My Own]

This guy does a nice job describing some of the sentiment down there: http://blog.nola.com/editorials/2008/09 ... leave.html

And considering NO is one of the poorest places in the US, I imagine the expense for one family is even worse than it would be if Lynchburg, for example, would be forced to evacuate, which if his sentiment is indicative of most of the poorer folks down there, there will be a pretty high percentage of people not evacuating then.

Oh, and Ike isn't forecasted to hit the US according to the weather channel this morning, so unless Hurricane J comes through there I dont think they'll be getting something in the next couple weeks.

Median family income, New Orleans: 46,000

Median family income, Lynchburg: 40,000



Again, you are a complete and total idiot.

You honestly feel its fair to compare a city of Lynchburg's size to NO? I thought we went over this already scroll up to how NO ranks with bullies it's own size

[olldflame]

This guy does a nice job describing some of the sentiment down there: http://blog.nola.com/editorials/2008/09 ... leave.html

And considering NO is one of the poorest places in the US, I imagine the expense for one family is even worse than it would be if Lynchburg, for example, would be forced to evacuate, which if his sentiment is indicative of most of the poorer folks down there, there will be a pretty high percentage of people not evacuating then.

Oh, and Ike isn't forecasted to hit the US according to the weather channel this morning, so unless Hurricane J comes through there I dont think they'll be getting something in the next couple weeks.

Median family income, New Orleans: 46,000

Median family income, Lynchburg: 40,000



Again, you are a complete and total idiot.

The difference in housing costs alone would more than make up for that 15% difference in income. Lynchburg is a very inexpensive place to live.

[Realist]

And considering NO is one of the poorest places in the US, I imagine the expense for one family is even worse than it would be if Lynchburg, for example, would be forced to evacuate, which if his sentiment is indicative of most of the poorer folks down there, there will be a pretty high percentage of people not evacuating then.

Oh, and Ike isn't forecasted to hit the US according to the weather channel this morning, so unless Hurricane J comes through there I dont think they'll be getting something in the next couple weeks.

Median family income, New Orleans: 46,000

Median family income, Lynchburg: 40,000



Again, you are a complete and total idiot.

The difference in housing costs alone would more than make up for that 15% difference in income. Lynchburg is a very inexpensive place to live.

Haha, are you serious? N.O. is inexpensive to live in as well, also with a public transportation system, where a car is not needed if you don't want one.

[Hold My Own]

Still not fair comparing the two...when matched up among cities with 100,000 you see how they rank up...heck I'd be poor too if I had to replace everything every 5-10 years!

[RagingTireFire]

I'd be poor too if I had to replace everything every 5-10 years!

What are you talking about? You already replace everything every 5-10 months.

[Hold My Own]

Nicely done

[WinthropEagleFan]

Still not fair comparing the two...when matched up among cities with 100,000 you see how they rank up...heck I'd be poor too if I had to replace everything every 5-10 years!

In the last 90 years, New Orleans has only had 2 hurricanes (betsy in 1965 & katrina in 2005) which caused wide-spread 'replace everything' damage to the city. Yes, there has been a handful of Gustav-type storms, which missed hitting the city directly and caused some minor flooding, power outages, and minor structure damage, but every city gets that type of damage here and there from various types of weather events. Yes, the threat of major hurricanes is frequent, but that is no different than just about every coastal area from the outer banks of nc, down to fl, and around to texas. But people in new orleans aren't' replacing everything every 5-10 years. Far from it.

[Realist]

Still not fair comparing the two...when matched up among cities with 100,000 you see how they rank up...heck I'd be poor too if I had to replace everything every 5-10 years!

In the last 90 years, New Orleans has only had 2 hurricanes (betsy in 1965 & katrina in 2005) which caused wide-spread 'replace everything' damage to the city. Yes, there has been a handful of Gustav-type storms, which missed hitting the city directly and caused some minor flooding, power outages, and minor structure damage, but every city gets that type of damage here and there from various types of weather events. Yes, the threat of major hurricanes is frequent, but that is no different than just about every coastal area from the outer banks of nc, down to fl, and around to texas. But people in new orleans aren't' replacing everything every 5-10 years. Far from it.

WEF is correct, of course, except for one thing I would dispute, even those storms weren't "replace everything" storms. They were bad storms with tons of damage, but plenty of people came through it with no damage at all. My father was in Betsy and no one he even knew in the city lost a house. In Katrina, I only know one person who lost a house, and about 15 others whose worst damage was lost shingles.

You guys really should try to understand what you are talking about before spouting off nonsense. It only makes you look like a fool.

[Hold My Own]

Ok I'll buy that so why are they one of the leading cities in poverty? <----serious question


Another question are you saying that if you were one of these in poverty you would have no more problem living there rather than somewhere else? It still just doesnt make sense to me knowing that I do run this risk, but I think we've agreed to disagree on this part



And I think it's foolish to say "there's a lot of money there" when they are obviously one of the country's leading cities in poverty but I was a little nicer

[kel varson]

Ok I'll buy that so why are they one of the leading cities in poverty? <----serious question

Too much government. The state has had a history of progressive, populist governments. I.E. Huey Long

[Hold My Own]

Interesting Kel I'll have to research that some.

[RagingTireFire]

Too much government. The state has had a history of progressive, populist governments. I.E. Huey Long

Translation: corruption.

[BUSIMAN23]

Still not fair comparing the two...when matched up among cities with 100,000 you see how they rank up...heck I'd be poor too if I had to replace everything every 5-10 years!

In the last 90 years, New Orleans has only had 2 hurricanes (betsy in 1965 & katrina in 2005) which caused wide-spread 'replace everything' damage to the city. Yes, there has been a handful of Gustav-type storms, which missed hitting the city directly and caused some minor flooding, power outages, and minor structure damage, but every city gets that type of damage here and there from various types of weather events. Yes, the threat of major hurricanes is frequent, but that is no different than just about every coastal area from the outer banks of nc, down to fl, and around to texas. But people in new orleans aren't' replacing everything every 5-10 years. Far from it.

WEF is correct, of course, except for one thing I would dispute, even those storms weren't "replace everything" storms. They were bad storms with tons of damage, but plenty of people came through it with no damage at all. My father was in Betsy and no one he even knew in the city lost a house. In Katrina, I only know one person who lost a house, and about 15 others whose worst damage was lost shingles.

You guys really should try to understand what you are talking about before spouting off nonsense. It only makes you look like a fool.

actually i knew about 30 families that had their homes destroyed and half of them are still living in fema trailers so i would say that katrina was a replace everything storm...i went down there about 6 months after to visit and help some people and it looked like a warzone....as for new orleans (i lived there for 8 yrs) before and after katrina it is a complete dump....poverty is all over the place and most of the people dont wanna work and improve their quality of life...it is a very racist area from both blacks and whites and it really is a DEPRESSING place to be in

[Realist]

Ok I'll buy that so why are they one of the leading cities in poverty? <----serious question


Another question are you saying that if you were one of these in poverty you would have no more problem living there rather than somewhere else? It still just doesnt make sense to me knowing that I do run this risk, but I think we've agreed to disagree on this part



And I think it's foolish to say "there's a lot of money there" when they are obviously one of the country's leading cities in poverty but I was a little nicer

I think I got through the 5th grade run-on sentences to get to your question. As stated before, New Orleans is like any other large city, it has it residents living in poverty in certain areas, it also has mansions scattered about, and also a large upper middle class population. There is plenty of money there like any other city. There are also plenty of welfare residents like any other city as well.

As for why would you want to live there? Well why do people like to live anywhere? It probably has the best entertainment and food of anywhere in the nation. Many people haven't had any losses ever to storms and make a good living there. Just like any other place, it's a personal choice of where you want to live.

[Hold My Own]

Ok I'll buy that so why are they one of the leading cities in poverty? <----serious question


Another question are you saying that if you were one of these in poverty you would have no more problem living there rather than somewhere else? It still just doesnt make sense to me knowing that I do run this risk, but I think we've agreed to disagree on this part



And I think it's foolish to say "there's a lot of money there" when they are obviously one of the country's leading cities in poverty but I was a little nicer

I think I got through the 5th grade run-on sentences to get to your question. As stated before, New Orleans is like any other large city, it has it residents living in poverty in certain areas, it also has mansions scattered about, and also a large upper middle class population. There is plenty of money there like any other city. There are also plenty of welfare residents like any other city as well.

As for why would you want to live there? Well why do people like to live anywhere? It probably has the best entertainment and food of anywhere in the nation. Many people haven't had any losses ever to storms and make a good living there. Just like any other place, it's a personal choice of where you want to live.

I'll start constructing better sentences for you, however the only one I'm thinking right now would be considered "incomplete."