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By Sly Fox
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Here is the story from the Tidewater fishwrap previewing Wednesday's formal announcement:
ODU president ready to get party started on football

By JIM DUCIBELLA, The Virginian-Pilot
© May 28, 2006


NORFOLK - Roseann Runte's appearance before city and university leaders on Wednesday won't be much different from the dozens of others she has made since becoming president of Old Dominion University - except for the cold beer, hot dogs and acrid smell of smoldering charcoal.

She will stand inside 20,000-seat Foreman Field - for years the most visible evidence of the gaping void in the university's athletic program - and tell hundreds of guests at her tailgate party that football is officially returning to ODU in 2009.

Runte's announcement isn't news, given that ODU officials have been talking football for more than a year. But it's an affirmation that the university has scaled major hurdles, achieved significant milestones and overcome key stumbling blocks.

"It's a time for excitement and celebration," said Robert L. Fenning, vice president for Administration and Finance.

ODU last sponsored intercollegiate football in 1940. There were two attempts to revive the sport from 1985-89, but fund-raising campaigns and a season-ticket push fell short .

Last summer, however, ODU's Board of Visitors voted 14-0 to approve football if three criteria were met. One was having an outside consultant verify that Hampton Roads would support it .

The second was a deal with Norfolk to acquire land for football practice facilities and venues for women's crew, softball and volleyball - which ODU will add to remain in compliance with Title IX.

The third was $8 million in pledges for an endowment that would help finance the team.

The first two prerequisites have been met. The June deadline to collect $8 million was scrapped after the consultant's report indicated that ODU probably could not raise the money through a few large donations , but would have to rely on smaller donations from a larger circle of supporters.

"That changed the timeline," said Alonzo Brandon, vice president for Development and Alumni Relations. "We had to incorporate more steps in the process. When going after smaller donors, they want to know more information, like what kind of benefits are they getting, where's the parking going to take place, things like that. It takes longer."

Brandon said he has nearly $6 million in pledges and plans to begin a grass-roots fund-raising campaign this summer. He "feels strongly" that he will raise more than $8 million before the team takes the field in 2009.

Brandon and athletic director Jim Jarrett have discussed the sale of naming rights on Foreman Field with some prospects. One company wants to pursue future talks, but Brandon said there is no timetable on consummating a deal .

Behind the scenes, Fenning and Jarrett have set flexible timetables for other aspects of the most monumental expansion of sports in university history.

The highlights:

Personnel: Jarrett said he has narrowed the candidates to oversee the implementation of football to a few and hopes to make a hire by this fall. The new assistant will be " someone who has retired or is about to retire who can come in for a couple of years and give us help and support."

Jarrett wants the new assistant to be familiar with building a football program and in facility development and fund-raising.

"It's going to be someone with an understanding of a total program," Jarrett said.

In addition, Jarrett estimates phasing in as many as 33 support people over the next three years to handle football and the Title IX equity sports. They will work in ticketing, marketing, sports information, athletic training and other administrative areas.

"We need marketing and ticket-sales people now," he said.

Coaches and players: Jarrett's ideal head coach will be working in the profession during the 2007 season. He does not envision hiring him until late 2007 or early 2008. The new coach will have six full-time assistants and one part-timer. One or more assistants will be hired by mid-2008 to begin recruiting.

The first recruiting class will enroll in the fall of 2008 and be mostly freshmen and junior-college transfers. All will be redshirted in 2008, which under NCAA guidelines would enable them to practice under the new coaches and not lose a year of eligibility .

The process would be repeated the following year, giving the staff players in all four classes. The third year, coaches would concentrate on bringing in a full freshma n class.

Competition: How to ease the Monarchs into the Colonial Athletic Association, which begins operation as a football conference in 2007, has been a topic of conversation between Jarrett and commissioner Tom Yeager. For the first season and possibly a second, ODU will play a combination of conference foes and lower-level opponents. It's likely the Monarchs wouldn't play enough CAA schools to qualify for a conference title until 2011.

Facilities: ODU officials are adamant that their other sports will not suffer because of football. They point to a slew of projects .

At the athletic administration building, an 8,000-square-foot strength-training facility is being built for existing teams to use. The old weight room will be torn down so the sports medicine department can triple in size. An academic-support facility is being added in the back, as is a wrestling facility, all scheduled for completion in early 2007.

The new soccer complex is under construction and a practice field is to be added. It won't be long before the fieldhouse is torn down to make way for a student-recreation center.

"We're not starting football and saying to the rest of our programs: 'We'll get back to you in 10 years,' " Fenning said.

Across Powhatan Avenue, where ODU acquired land from the city , there are plans for a field hockey/lacrosse stadium, two football practice fields and a softball facility. However, the crown jewel of the complex will be a minimum 50,000-square foot building that will include coaches offices for football, softball, field hockey and lacrosse, plus locker rooms, strength training and other services for each of those sports.

The majority of these projects will be completed before work starts on Foreman Field.

A year ago, a local architect conducted preliminary work on what needed to be done to upgrade the 70-year-old former WPA project. In June or July, the St. Louis-based firm of Hastings and Chivetta will come in to expand on the original analysis. In the fall, ODU will submit a budget request to the state, even though most of the work will be paid for through private fund-raising and bonds .

In the South end zone area, ODU will build a game-day locker complex and parking, plus additional seating and up to 11 luxury suites. Officials are planning to remove the bleachers at midfield for chair-back seats reserved for Big Blue Club donors.

A new press box, scoreboard, concession areas and entry plaza are planned, none of which is expected to be ready until 2008.

At the same time, the city is about to begin expansion of 43rd Street into a four-lane roadway running past the soccer and baseball stadiums and into the complex across Powhatan. That and other road improvements will ease access into what ultimately will be 7,000 parking spaces at or near Foreman Field.
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By PAmedic
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be great to schedule some games against them while they are getting their feet wet and maybe develop a decent in-state rivalry, like the one we SHOULD revive w/ JMU.
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By Sly Fox
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I think the biggest impact could be in it further creating a logjam in the CAA that might force it to drop its associate football members from the America East. That might open a door for another regional team in Virginia to slip in. Then again, even that is a longshot.
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By PAmedic
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That, coupled w/ the new classifications or really, the elimination of "AA", may just make possible a regional league of VA teams. I know its been thrown around here in a less than serious fashion but it might just be doable at some point. At least for FB.
By A.G.
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Guys fuggedaboutit. If the CAA re-aligned, the ONLY Big South school to get in would be VMI. Face it. LU is Big South and will ALWAYS be Big South.
By A.G.
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Nope.
Realist.
By Libertine
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PAmedic wrote:be great to schedule some games against them while they are getting their feet wet and maybe develop a decent in-state rivalry, like the one we SHOULD revive w/ JMU.
It ain't our fault we haven't played JMU lately. We'd play them every year if we could but those guys up in the H have been jerking us around for years. After we played up there in 2000, JMU's prez banned the school from playing us in any sport for Lord only knows what reason only to turn around and schedule us as for the 9/11 make-up game in '01. After the debacle in '03, they told us they'd be glad to play us anytime only to never return any of our phone calls.
By LUconn
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A.G. wrote:Face it. LU is Big South and will ALWAYS be Big South.
You call that being a realist? Have you been paying attention to college sports over the last 5 years? College conferences are as liquid as they've ever been. It's only a matter of time before we get out or the Big South collapses due to other teams leaving. It's just the ripple effect of the big boys up top.
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By Sly Fox
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I would tell you all that I agree 100% with LUconn on this one. But its the same thing I've been chirping about for several years on these boards. Changes are coming and either we find a new home on our own or we are left out in the cold due to the CCUs or WUs of the world bolting. And if we are serious about stepping up to I-A in football, we will have to move eventually one way or the other.

As for JMU, I admit I am thrilled we are getting them back on our schedule down the road. If we can keep aligned with both the Dukes and the College for years to come it would certainly be in our best interests. Seeing how ODU operates in other sports, you get the feeling that they will do things right with football.
By A.G.
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ODU? Isn't that a women's basketball school?

(OK, OK. REALLY BAD analogy). ODU's administration has been ripped in the past for NOT fully funding some of the men's sports, so adding football is a bit of a suprise for me.
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By Brokeback Flamer
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A.G. wrote:ODU? Isn't that a women's basketball school?

(OK, OK. REALLY BAD analogy). ODU's administration has been ripped in the past for NOT fully funding some of the men's sports, so adding football is a bit of a suprise for me.
Now that would be an annual match up I would LOVE To see. Of course our last meeting "sorta" favored the Monarchs and Pinechero and Marchenguana sort of dominated us, but that was 10 YEARS ago. My how time flies
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ODU football hype begins
Published June 1 2006


NORFOLK -- Old Dominion staged a nice little gathering Wednesday morning at Foreman Field in honor of Katie Couric's "Today" show farewell.

A slew of ODU honchos attended. There were mayors, city councilmen, Board of Visitor types, boosters. CAA commissioner Tom Yeager showed, along with assistant commish Ron Bertovich. Heck, the Phoebus High marching band played.

They said it was for ODU football, but that couldn't be right. They wouldn't invite a few hundred people to a tailgate party for a program that isn't likely to make a nickel and won't play its first game for another three years, would they?

Sure they would.

"I'm a believer," said former Norfolk Catholic and VMI defensive back Paul Fraim, whose current job is mayor of Norfolk. "I participated in college athletics. I was around athletics at three Virginia colleges and I know what it can mean to a campus. I know what it can mean to the student body. It will have a very positive impact on everything."

Wednesday's pep rally was simply the latest reminder that yes, by God, ODU is going to field a football program.

Previous announcements that the school was moving forward with plans for football were usually made in conference rooms at Board of Visitors meetings, where board member Sonny "Svengali" Stallings used his telepathic powers to induce unanimous "yes" votes.

Wednesday's get-together was open-air, Tailgating 101, complete with grills and burgers and tents and picnic tables and a big, snazzy RV behind one end zone to help simulate the experience.

Absent coaches, players and games, we had speechifying and awkward football analogies, like passes forced into double coverage (See how easy it is?).

Anyway, count on more reminders in the leadup to the first game in the fall of 2009. Without a product, good or bad, we have to settle for hype and promises and statements that sound a lot like: We're still having football.

"I think it's a big deal for the university," Yeager said. "There's nothing like football and home football weekends to pull people to a campus."

Yeager drove up in a bright yellow Hummer H2. Not his regular chariot, he assured. He borrowed it for the occasion.

Yeager's Hummer was one of the traditional models with an open bed in the back, to transport a grill, a cooler, a hot tub, a side of beef, whatever, for tailgating purposes.

"Rightly or wrongly - and some faculty will go chaotic to hear this - but football does help define a university," Yeager said. "They're not playing Michigan, but it adds to the quality of life around here."

College football's impact on "quality of life" is debatable. Would VCU or UNC Wilmington or Temple be better off with football? Hard to say.

Without dispute is the notion that football at ODU comes about because of a fortuitous confluence of circumstances.

The school is in the midst of a remarkable makeover, from commuter to campus-oriented. The student body is growing - it's expected to reach 28,000 in the next couple of years.

A larger student body and alumni base mean more money, which provides funding mechanisms not only for football, but for the women's sports required to keep ODU in compliance with the gender-equity cops.

Yeager's and the CAA's hostile takeover of Atlantic 10 football two years hence gives ODU football built-in conference affiliation and natural scheduling opportunities that did not exist before.

Factor in the high school talent pool in Hampton Roads, which college programs have mined for years, and ODU doesn't have to look far to fill a roster.

But again, we're getting ahead of ourselves. There is the matter of raising and properly allocating millions of dollars. ODU must hire not only enough, but competent bodies for what will be the most significant transformation in its athletic history.

Until Sept. 2009, enjoy the World's Longest Tailgate Party.

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