[Fumblerooskies]

Joe Lunardi is predicting UNCA in the the play-in game? He's NUTS. They have a chance to be 24-8 with a couple of quality non-conference wins. The only reason they would be in the play-in game is because the NCAA is too chicken-bleep to put the MEAC and SWAC teams in it together.

[Realist]

They've got to get there first

I would seriously doubt either WU or UNCA would get less than a 15. Probably a 14, with the best possible a 13.

[Fumblerooskies]

True...but it shows the lack of respect the conference has in spite of Winthrop's run of <del>luck</del> success over the past 10 years.

[LUconn]

Lunardi is just going by current RPI right now. He's not trying to get across a message about our league. Some of the higher RPI teams that are on his bracket won't win their tournament to get in. Which would push UNCA or WU up.

[TDDance234]

If it's UNCA, I think they're in the playoff game--however, if WU wins, they get a 14, maybe even a 13, on name alone.

[Sly Fox]

There is zero chance WU gets a 13 seed ... 14 is a real stretch.

Hopefully there are some upsets and the play-in game isn't an option.

[paradox]

There is zero chance WU gets a 13 seed ... 14 is a real stretch.

Hopefully there are some upsets and the play-in game isn't an option.

Yea, the winner most likely gets the standard 15 or 16.



As far as predictions go regarding who gets the play-in: it's kinda ridiculous to speculate at this stage as to who's gonna get the play-in game. Things will begin to take shape once we actually know who's going to the dance. There's always at least a team or two from a weak conference that gets in with a losing record or has marginal credentials at best. Every front runner would have to win their respective mid-major tourney in order for there to be the slightest chance of UNCA as a play-in. Of course, it never happens like that, so UNCA should be safe.

I'd imagine that UNCA would probably play a primetime game against a top-ten opponent, with the potential for a big draw because of George.

[Realist]

No chance WU gets a 16 based on what they say they judge on. WU will have better wins than just about anyone in the 14-16 range, and will have a much tougher strength of schedule than anyone in that range as well. I'd say probably a 14, but if there are a few upsets a 13.

UNCA will have a little tougher time based on their weak OOC schedule and lack of top 100 RPI wins.

[Realist]

To put it this way: no team in the 14-16 range will have a win over a top 25 RPI team, and two top 100 teams like WU. That will keep them at a 14 at worst now that I think about it.

UNCA has a tougher case as their best win is Winthrop.

[Fumblerooskies]

To put it this way: no team in the 14-16 range will have a win over a top 25 RPI team, and two top 100 teams like WU. That will keep them at a 14 at worst now that I think about it.

UNCA has a tougher case as their best 3 wins are Winthrop.

Fixed it for you

[kel varson]

I agree. I think it's nuts to put unca in a playin. Anybody who has seen them play would know that. Who gives a crap about the rpi. UNCA almost beat UNC.

[LUconn]

If by "almost beat", you mean "played", then yes they did.

[kel varson]

If by "almost beat", you mean "played", then yes they did.

Wasn't it really close for much of the second half. I'll be honest, that's my recollection. Possibly I am Misremembering.

[kel varson]

If by "almost beat", you mean "played", then yes they did.

Wasn't it really close for much of the second half. I'll be honest, that's my recollection. Possibly I am Misremembering.

Oops. You're right. I mis-remembered. It was a one pt game early in the 2nd half. UNC pulled away quickly after that.

[LUconn]

updated today. UNCA as a 16 but not in the play-in.

[Fumblerooskies]

Yeah...against UCLA.

[TIMSCAR20]

Eddie Biedenbaugh has had some success vs UCLA as a coach on a very large stage (1974)

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Eddie Biedenbaugh has had some success vs UCLA as a coach on a very large stage (1974)

Great Call!

[TIMSCAR20]

That's the kind of stuff that just pops in my mind. I'd be dangerous if I actually did "a little research"

[Fumblerooskies]

Eddie Biedenbaugh has had some success vs UCLA as a coach on a very large stage (1974)

As a huge NC STATE FAN (David Thompson is still my all time fave player)...I should have picked up on that. I don't think that George, Smithson, and Garland are exactly Burleson, Thompson, and Towe, though.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

That's the kind of stuff that just pops in my mind. I'd be dangerous if I actually did "a little research"

For real... You have my respect today sir.

[TIMSCAR20]

Eddie Biedenbaugh has had some success vs UCLA as a coach on a very large stage (1974)

As a huge NC STATE FAN (David Thompson is still my all time fave player)...I should have picked up on that. I don't think that George, Smithson, and Garland are exactly Burleson, Thompson, and Towe, though.

I have coached vs Towe when he was at UNCA (Fumble you probably know him too) and I have met DT a few times. One time I came out of my office at Liberty and he was in our lobby! He was waiting for coach Meyer. I was like, sup DT! The other time was when he spoke at an FCA function when I was sitting with Ryan Mantlo, Gabe Martin and Randy Tomlin among others. That was fun too. DT doesn't mind talking about his dunks though. You guys thought I was bad!

[kingaling42]

Eddie Biedenbaugh has had some success vs UCLA as a coach on a very large stage (1974)

As a huge NC STATE FAN (David Thompson is still my all time fave player)...I should have picked up on that. I don't think that George, Smithson, and Garland are exactly Burleson, Thompson, and Towe, though.

I have coached vs Towe when he was at UNCA (Fumble you probably know him too) and I have met DT a few times. One time I came out of my office at Liberty and he was in our lobby! He was waiting for coach Meyer. I was like, sup DT! The other time was when he spoke at an FCA function when I was sitting with Ryan Mantlo, Gabe Martin and Randy Tomlin among others. That was fun too. DT doesn't mind talking about his dunks though. You guys thought I was bad!

It's funny UNCA has ties to all those guys you've mentioned- not just because of Eddie either.. DT's daughter went to UNCA and was a Track Athlete for us in the 100m, Long Jump, & Triple Jump (perhaps others as well- I dunno), Burleson lived about 30 mins from Avl and was in the gym a bunch when I played back in the day, and Monte was an assistant coach my senior year until bouncing to JUCO in Fl then UNO & now NC State.. funny little life circles!!

For the record- should we be victorious tomorrow I can't imagine us getting a 16 seed- I also wouldn't want to speculate until the other conference winners are confirmed- there's always upsets that occur..

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

What do you expect to get if you win tomorrow?

[Fumblerooskies]

Eddie Biedenbaugh has had some success vs UCLA as a coach on a very large stage (1974)

As a huge NC STATE FAN (David Thompson is still my all time fave player)...I should have picked up on that. I don't think that George, Smithson, and Garland are exactly Burleson, Thompson, and Towe, though.

I have coached vs Towe when he was at UNCA (Fumble you probably know him too) and I have met DT a few times. One time I came out of my office at Liberty and he was in our lobby! He was waiting for coach Meyer. I was like, sup DT! The other time was when he spoke at an FCA function when I was sitting with Ryan Mantlo, Gabe Martin and Randy Tomlin among others. That was fun too. DT doesn't mind talking about his dunks though. You guys thought I was bad!

I know Monte very well...still talk to him a couple times a year...
...and had the honor of eating breakfast with Thompson and introducing him at UNCA when he gave a drug education talk to our athletes.