[givemethemic]

Bingo, Somebody gets it.

[TruthSlayer11]

LU has coach's every year that are contacted by other school's about interest in bigger and better jobs. Would they offer more money? Of course! Would they be in a better conference? Yes (try, SEC, ACC, etc). Yet there are some (thank the Lord) that are here for what LU stands for and here for the vision.

This happens and these coach's withdraw their name since this is their dream job

[belcherboy]

LU has coach's every year that are contacted by other school's about interest in bigger and better jobs. Would they offer more money? Of course! Would they be in a better conference? Yes (try, SEC, ACC, etc). Yet there are some (thank the Lord) that are here for what LU stands for and here for the vision.

I find this hard to believe. Who has been contacted about a head coaching job in the SEC or ACC? Green was offered Clemson, but I've NEVER heard of any of our coaches EVER being offered a possible chance at a head coaching job in the ACC or SEC. I'm out of the loop though!

[RagingTireFire]

LU has coach's every year that are contacted by other school's about interest in bigger and better jobs. Would they offer more money? Of course! Would they be in a better conference? Yes (try, SEC, ACC, etc). Yet there are some (thank the Lord) that are here for what LU stands for and here for the vision.

This happens and these coach's withdraw their name since this is their dream job

You, sir, are on the crack.

[olldflame]

LU has coach's every year that are contacted by other school's about interest in bigger and better jobs. Would they offer more money? Of course! Would they be in a better conference? Yes (try, SEC, ACC, etc). Yet there are some (thank the Lord) that are here for what LU stands for and here for the vision.

This happens and these coach's withdraw their name since this is their dream job

Yeah, I heard Duke was going to fire K and go after RD and SoCal wanted to trade Pete Carroll in for Karcher.

[Sly Fox]

The LSU student fishwrap had an editorial today saying they don't think JB is up to snuff ...

Current athletic directors Tom Bowen and Jeff Barber, of San Jose State and Liberty University in Virginia, respectively, should also be dropped from the conversation.

San Jose State University hails from the Western Athletic Conference, and its most popular sport is judo. Liberty is a member of the Football Championship Subdivision (or Division I-AA) and competes in the Big South Conference.

No offense to either school or athletic director, but LSU needs someone who is accustomed to performing on a grander stage.

The committee already eliminated Tom Collins, athletic director of Division II's Brevard College, because of his classification.

Bowen and Barber may be a part of a Division I school, but they are not ready to take over a top-tier program like LSU.

I'm all for giving basketball coaches from small schools a shot at roaming the sidelines of a big-time university (see: Anthony Grant or Travis Ford). But the athletic director position is a little more serious and probably can't be improved by simply employing a full-court press defense.

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The logic in this guy's dissertation escapes me. But everybody is entitled to their opinion.

[PAmedic]

I'm SHOCKED by that attitude.

SHOCKED, I tells ya.

SEC snobbery at its finest- which is ironic, considering what the SEC represents. I mean, its not like they're the Big Tenleven

[LUconn]

The student obviously needs to do a little more research. He's obviously got plenty of experience doing exactly what they're requesting (in the same conference even) in that article. All you've got to do, is go back 1 entire job for JB. I hope he's not a representative of their school of journalism.

I find this hard to believe. Who has been contacted about a head coaching job in the SEC or ACC? Green was offered Clemson, but I've NEVER heard of any of our coaches EVER being offered a possible chance at a head coaching job in the ACC or SEC. I'm out of the loop though!

Was he really offered? Or did he throw his name into the mix. I guess that's for another thread.

[checkmate]

LU has coach's every year that are contacted by other school's about interest in bigger and better jobs. Would they offer more money? Of course! Would they be in a better conference? Yes (try, SEC, ACC, etc). Yet there are some (thank the Lord) that are here for what LU stands for and here for the vision.

This happens and these coach's withdraw their name since this is their dream job

Yeah, I heard Duke was going to fire K and go after RD and SoCal wanted to trade Pete Carroll in for Karcher.

You guys act like JB has done something beyond what he has done. Yes he has organized the $$$ that the administration opened up for him and put up new flag poles, painted a few steps and doubled a few budgets. It is an administrative job unlike coaches who compete everyday against other DI programs. He didn't build us an FOC, stadium or arena. He is here in the time frame of a greater commitment to athletics from a $$$ standpoint. Burch and Graham would have looked alot better if they had been given the green $$$ light. Let's not act like he walks on water...he can just infuse $$$ given by the institution to his department. We have coaches who if they had chose to pursue secular platforms could be successful at any level. Successful coaches were in place before Barber and will be here long after he is gone. And with the level of commitment from the university some AD with find this his dream job and use it for a ministry not just use it.

[Fumblerooskies]

He also got us a new men's basketball coach...that is a huge plus in my book

[bigsmooth]

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[thesportscritic]

haterade 101 sponsored by checkmate

[Rocketfan]

LU has coach's every year that are contacted by other school's about interest in bigger and better jobs. Would they offer more money? Of course! Would they be in a better conference? Yes (try, SEC, ACC, etc). Yet there are some (thank the Lord) that are here for what LU stands for and here for the vision.

I find this hard to believe. Who has been contacted about a head coaching job in the SEC or ACC? Green was offered Clemson, but I've NEVER heard of any of our coaches EVER being offered a possible chance at a head coaching job in the ACC or SEC. I'm out of the loop though!

For the record, i disagree about your Green comment.

[SuperJon]

You guys act like JB has done something beyond what he has done. Yes he has organized the $$$ that the administration opened up for him and put up new flag poles, painted a few steps and doubled a few budgets. It is an administrative job unlike coaches who compete everyday against other DI programs. He didn't build us an FOC, stadium or arena. He is here in the time frame of a greater commitment to athletics from a $$$ standpoint. Burch and Graham would have looked alot better if they had been given the green $$$ light. Let's not act like he walks on water...he can just infuse $$$ given by the institution to his department. We have coaches who if they had chose to pursue secular platforms could be successful at any level. Successful coaches were in place before Barber and will be here long after he is gone. And with the level of commitment from the university some AD with find this his dream job and use it for a ministry not just use it.

He may have a larger budget, but he's also raising exponentially more through donations and other types of giving than any other administration. Case in point is this year's basketball season: no one would be donate the money to put together promotions and things of that nature during the previous staff. This year they're getting more donations and you're seeing more things during games, whether it's halftime shows, t-shirt giveaways, or whatever. There's also major Vines Center renovations planned. We've gotten suites for football, a jumbotron, and there are plans for other things for when the time comes. There are plans to upgrade every single facility on campus for every single sport. To say he's done nothing is absolutely ignorant, and something I expect from someone like you.

[Purple Haize]

This is too fun a thread to sit out for long.

For starters, I am not sure that Checkmate is really far off the mark. Had previous regimes' (although I am not so sure about the Park reign) been given the same resources perhaps LU would be furhter along intheir growth and maturation as an athletic juggernaut. Having said that, Barber was given those resources and he DID deliver and do some very nice things. I am not going to say that he walks on water, but he is extremely compotent and capable and has utilized the resources he was given. (As have other regime's)

Secondly, BELCHER you may want to think again about any of our coaches getting ACC or SEC offers. That number is still 0. (Although 1 coach did get an 2 AcC offers but they were not at the school at the time, plus she is SMOKIN hot!)

Third, it is posts like inthebeginning's (and would that be a literal 6 day beginning?) that really show's the cultish pull of athletics in general. HAD Barber screwed the pooch on his watch here he/she may have a point. But to say that the very act of looking at another job, a BETTER job, shows disloyalty is outrageous. Did CG get called disloyal when he sought out the Clemson job? If Rocco was up for a coordinator position at an ACC school would he then be disloyal? Would all their accomplishments be forgotten and their memories tarnished? Would we bring out a huge vat of Flavor - Aid and sing hymns?
Seeking another job is part of the gig in athletics. If any of these coaches or AD's had shirked their duties when searching then you would have issue. That is not the case here.

I am someone who is happy when good things happen to good people. So in this case I hope Barber makes a good run and gets the job!! From a selfish stand point, I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall of one M G if that happens and hear what his response would be . Something like "Oh crap, time to break out the "Interim" AD business cards again!!" AND it would make a great topic for the board!!

[Sly Fox]

I hope he's not a representative of their school of journalism.

Sadly he is.

[checkmate]

You guys act like JB has done something beyond what he has done. Yes he has organized the $$$ that the administration opened up for him and put up new flag poles, painted a few steps and doubled a few budgets. It is an administrative job unlike coaches who compete everyday against other DI programs. He didn't build us an FOC, stadium or arena. He is here in the time frame of a greater commitment to athletics from a $$$ standpoint. Burch and Graham would have looked alot better if they had been given the green $$$ light. Let's not act like he walks on water...he can just infuse $$$ given by the institution to his department. We have coaches who if they had chose to pursue secular platforms could be successful at any level. Successful coaches were in place before Barber and will be here long after he is gone. And with the level of commitment from the university some AD with find this his dream job and use it for a ministry not just use it.

He may have a larger budget, but he's also raising exponentially more through donations and other types of giving than any other administration. Case in point is this year's basketball season: no one would be donate the money to put together promotions and things of that nature during the previous staff. This year they're getting more donations and you're seeing more things during games, whether it's halftime shows, t-shirt giveaways, or whatever. There's also major Vines Center renovations planned. We've gotten suites for football, a jumbotron, and there are plans for other things for when the time comes. There are plans to upgrade every single facility on campus for every single sport. To say he's done nothing is absolutely ignorant, and something I expect from someone like you.

Sorry for taking your toys away The facts are it is economics and apart from a Jerry act in the past to create a facility or improve a budget it was the job of the AD to say no. It is a different time with the $$$ and many individuals would look good in the AD chair because of where LU and where the institutional commitment is. If that is haterade then have a drink!

[SuperJon]

How can you explain the exponential growth in donations and giving then? Or how about season ticket sales?

[LUconn]

You guys act like JB has done something beyond what he has done. Yes he has organized the $$$ that the administration opened up for him and put up new flag poles, painted a few steps and doubled a few budgets. It is an administrative job unlike coaches who compete everyday against other DI programs. He didn't build us an FOC, stadium or arena. He is here in the time frame of a greater commitment to athletics from a $$$ standpoint. Burch and Graham would have looked alot better if they had been given the green $$$ light. Let's not act like he walks on water...he can just infuse $$$ given by the institution to his department. We have coaches who if they had chose to pursue secular platforms could be successful at any level. Successful coaches were in place before Barber and will be here long after he is gone. And with the level of commitment from the university some AD with find this his dream job and use it for a ministry not just use it.

He may have a larger budget, but he's also raising exponentially more through donations and other types of giving than any other administration. Case in point is this year's basketball season: no one would be donate the money to put together promotions and things of that nature during the previous staff. This year they're getting more donations and you're seeing more things during games, whether it's halftime shows, t-shirt giveaways, or whatever. There's also major Vines Center renovations planned. We've gotten suites for football, a jumbotron, and there are plans for other things for when the time comes. There are plans to upgrade every single facility on campus for every single sport. To say he's done nothing is absolutely ignorant, and something I expect from someone like you.

Sorry for taking your toys away The facts are it is economics and apart from a Jerry act in the past to create a facility or improve a budget it was the job of the AD to say no. It is a different time with the $$$ and many individuals would look good in the AD chair because of where LU and where the institutional commitment is. If that is haterade then have a drink!

While you're correct that JB has power that no previous AD has had, what more would you want him to do? He's getting more done, and it may be because of more resources, but that doesn't mean he's doing a bad job. Really, most of the decisions he's made, you'd have to wait a few years to see how it pans out. When trying to change the direction and culture of a program, you can't really view it through a 2 year window.

[checkmate]

How can you explain the exponential growth in donations and giving then? Or how about season ticket sales?

$$$ promotions, $$$ staffing, LU numbers and growth in community $$$ impact, The Rocco hire and pulling in some IA athletes....promotion of weak schedules. This years mbb has 14 games versus RPI's lower than 300. And some of Jerry's major donors are now giving directly to athletics instead of to JFM.

[checkmate]

While you're correct that JB has power that no previous AD has had, what more would you want him to do? He's getting more done, and it may be because of more resources, but that doesn't mean he's doing a bad job. Really, most of the decisions he's made, you'd have to wait a few years to see how it pans out. When trying to change the direction and culture of a program, you can't really view it through a 2 year window.[/quote]

It is not about what more could he do it is about alot of AD could do what he has done. Infuse institutional $$$ in many lacking areas. Of course I believe his ego had to make some major hires instead of infuse the previous staffs.(not to start the whole debate) But there are only so many athletic departments support from their institution like LU so get someone who is committed to see through the growth of a 5-10 period. Not a resume builder who can take credit for things the institutional $$$ created.

[RagingTireFire]

Of course I believe his ego had to make some major hires instead of infuse the previous staffs.(not to start the whole debate)

Riiiight. Please tell us more about his ego, 'mate, because I'm dying to hear you talk about someone else's ego.

[Fumblerooskies]

Having the power is the biggest plus in JB's reign here at LU...the power to un-do things that previous AD's (KG comes to mind) did not want to do in the first place when coaches were sometimes forced upon him.

[PAmedic]

The personal attacks on the character of school administrative personnel has to stop, please.

thanks.

[JK37]

Having the power is the biggest plus in JB's reign here at LU...the power to un-do things that previous AD's (KG comes to mind) did not want to do in the first place when coaches were sometimes forced upon him.

Wouldn't the next question then be, does his power take a hit with the events regarding the LSU job in recent days?