[grm]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel if Coach McKay applied for another job.

[ToTheLeft]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel if Coach McKay applied for another job.

Good thing he hasn't.

So stop trolling.

A lot of the time, you make good points. This one is out of line and just trying to get a rise out of people.

[RagingTireFire]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel if Coach McKay applied for another job.

That depends. If he applied at Longwood, I'd be upset. If he applied at Indiana, good for him.

[MacGeek]

lets not forget here that its LSU. These things dont come around to often. As much as I would hate to see him leave, if he lands the job more power to him.

A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do.

[MacGeek]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel if Coach McKay applied for another job.

That depends. If he applied at Longwood, I'd be upset. If he applied at Indiana, good for him.

I would be ticked. besides, he has to much class for that.

[PAmedic]

Have to say I have no issue with anyone looking to do better for their families.

And agree that the mentality "in the bubble" is sometimes very cult-like. Scary.

Jeff has done a nice job of righting the ship- and I'm certain will continue to do so if thats how things shake out.

If he leaves- we'll no doubt attract someone else of a very high caliber; LU will be just fine ladies.

[grm]

Thank you sweetheart. (That's from this "lady" to you, P.A. - Please don't tell your wife about us.)

and btw, "To The Left" RMK has moved before, although not always by his choice. My question could have been trolling,
but somebody told me a few months ago that he was keeping his ears open, and the consensus on this board is that
such practice is acceptable and even admirable when one's family's welfare is brought into the equation.

Try to remember that I have never said anything bad about RMK, never wished him ill, never called for or secretly wished for his departure, and will support him whether he stays or goes. I think he's a good coach, etc. It's not an issue for me in any way, although I do understand why my question smacked of trolling, and could have had that effect.

Signing off for the evening, Ladies!

[PAmedic]

Thank you sweetheart. (That's from this "lady" to you, P.A. - Please don't tell your wife about us.)

sicko

[flamesfilmguy]

OK i'm gonna jump in here and since lefty knows me he can't call it trolling look LSU is like a dream job for every athletic director in the country. guys in our Sport management classes would kill to have this job. and if he's bettering his family in the process of acheiving his dream job.. more power to him. That goes for every coach and administrator in LU athletics. I have no problem with people throwing their names into job searches. as long as that job is a step up from LU (EX. FCS to BCS) if RMK decided he wanted to apply for the Indiana job more power to him. if coach rocco wanted to apply for a BCS job i'd be sad but you can't get mad at the guy for pursuing a dream and bettering his family. The thought that a coach or administrator is "Obligated" to stay at this school simply because of what it stands for is Ridiculous. If those men(and women) are men of God and seeking his will... i mean hey maybe God can better use them from a higher platform at a secular university to further the cause of christ. we can't be judges of that and we also cannot critisize that. just my two cents.

[TruthSlayer11]

The point has already been made about the amount of money that an AD makes now a days at Liberty University. So this whole "doing what's best for his family" stuff has got to go. If this was someone mid level in the Athletic Department then I completely agree you need to look else where, but when you're in the top 1% of the city you're living in then that's not all that bad. You can invest in several properties and set your kids up for the future as well. Not to mention at LU this is a very low pressure job and as long as you're doing well you'll have a job, sure at LSU you'll make 500-750k but the moment you're football team has a .500 year you're out.

Do not let the smooth taste fool you. THIS IS THE DREAM JOB FOR MANY! Brant Tolsma will fight with anyone who tries to say that this isnt a dream job.

Bottom line even if you're considering going somewhere else proves that this is not your dream job and that's perfectly ok, LU isnt for everyone, but if you're looking after only two years it's best you leave and I can promise you we'll find someone who considers this a dream job and will be her for the next 10-15 years and be just as good.

And that was a perfectly fair question to ask GRM, what if another coach would have done this. I could only imagine if another coach who doesnt have the full support would make a move like that, they would be raked over the coals.

[Rocketfan]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel if Coach McKay applied for another job.

Good thing he hasn't.

So stop trolling.

A lot of the time, you make good points. This one is out of line and just trying to get a rise out of people.

You telling anyone they are out of line is laughable to start with.....should we remind you of all your off the wall posts???

[bigsmooth]

college athletics are a business. you can be completely happy with your job, but when a position like this comes open and it's arguably one of the best AD jobs in the country you explore it. you would be doing yourself a dis-service in not looking at it. there is noting unethical about this. JB has furthered Doc's dream more than any other AD we have had, and if JB leaves im sure Jr. and company will make the right decision to bring in someone to further that cause. i still do not htink he gets the job but if he does i would wish him the best.

[grm]

I may owe Mr. Barber an apology on this particular and specific note. I understand that Mr. Barber has explicitly stated that he did not apply for the LSU job. (This makles the story even more amazing and intriguing, given that he made it through the first cut on what some have called one of the best jobs in the country... without even applying)

I'll have to await the next article from Chris, unless JB issues a public statement through some other outlet.

[thesportscritic]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel if Coach McKay applied for another job.

Good thing he hasn't.

So stop trolling.

A lot of the time, you make good points. This one is out of line and just trying to get a rise out of people.

You telling anyone they are out of line is laughable to start with.....should we remind you of all your off the wall posts???

Well Said Rocketfan!!

[FlameNForest]

It is like a marriage. There is commitment involved.

Ain't that the truth.

I mean, when you get married you need to at least wait more than two years to start looking around...

[HenryGale]

It is like a marriage. There is commitment involved.

Ain't that the truth.

I mean, when you get married you need to at least wait more than two years to start looking around...

Everybody needs to cut Barber some slack here....he is looking out for his family and what he feels is best for him. It is not like he has applied at Longwood, Emory and Henry, LC, Averett, AND Hampden Sydney...trying to get out of LU. He has applied at LSU...one of the premiere jobs in the country for an AD.

It is not like he can tell LSU to wait another year or two so he can spend more time at LU to satisfy fans...the job is open now, and if he applies..so be it.

[Knucklehead]

Either way I'm a Barber man. He has every right to apply for whatever job whenever he likes.

grm - You need to find some friends and cheer up!

[inthebeginning]

I have been watching this one from a distance and feel that there is a perspective on building a place like LU that requires a long term commitment. Institutional commitment or lack there if is a big deal in my world. Certainly the motivation to attain a higher paying/profile job has many merits. If that is what Barber wants then let's hope he gets it. We need Liberty people who are committed like Jerry, Elmer and many others. It is not like there is not opportunity to provide for the family and be a part of something special. This type of mind set hurts organizations and limits the impact of those longing to be elsewhere. My vote is to find people who will at least complete two years before looking for the next gig.

[Baldspot]

We are looking at either:

1) Four AD's in as many years. Not good.
or
2) An AD looking to leave after two years and using his close finish at LSU as a way to get his name out to other institutions. Not very enticing to potential coaches who may want to come to LU or potential donors who may want to invest in a stable athletic program.

[PAmedic]

I have been watching this one from a distance and feel that there is a perspective on building a place like LU that requires a long term commitment. Institutional commitment or lack there if is a big deal in my world. Certainly the motivation to attain a higher paying/profile job has many merits. If that is what Barber wants then let's hope he gets it. We need Liberty people who are committed like Jerry, Elmer and many others. It is not like there is not opportunity to provide for the family and be a part of something special. This type of mind set hurts organizations and limits the impact of those longing to be elsewhere. My vote is to find people who will at least complete two years before looking for the next gig.

What- done being "Southbeach" already?

I kinda liked that one better, to be honest!

[Fumblerooskies]

We are looking at either:

1) Four AD's in as many years. Not good.
or
2) An AD looking to leave after two years and using his close finish at LSU as a way to get his name out to other institutions. Not very enticing to potential coaches who may want to come to LU or potential donors who may want to invest in a stable athletic program.

Has anyone stopped to think that perhaps, based on grm's post, that LSU may have approached HIM?
(Don't give me the obvious rebuttal about if a smoking hot blonde approached one of us married guys would we "apply" analogy either b/c a job is different than a marriage).

[phoenix]

OK, I'm all about loyalty and vision. But in this case, I've got to admit hat I'd probably do the same thing that Barber has done. If there was a chance for me to move up professionally and economically, I'd at least try for it.

If I'm a marketing manager with a small company (100 employees or so), doing pretty well, living comfortably, running a successful business, and suddenly a management spot at Apple or Microsoft or someone like that opens up, with bigger paychecks and professional prestige, I'm sending my resume. Doesn't mean I'm suddenly disloyal to my employer, or that I've lost their vision (or never had it to begin with). It means that I want to know what I can do professionally.

Barber has brought LU athletics a long way in his tenure. I'm sure he wants to stick around, and do even more. But there's always the thought -- "What can I do there if given the shot?" "Am I good enough to even have them talk to me?"

I've sent resumes out when I had a job that I loved. But if I was offered the other job, I'd have gone in a second. Not out of disloyalty, but out of professional ambition. And I've applied for jobs I had no shot at at all, just because the worst they could tell me is "No."

I hope he stays, but if he gets the job, I'll still be happy for him.

[RagingTireFire]

Has anyone stopped to think that perhaps, based on grm's post, that LSU may have approached HIM?

Dude did work in the SEC for a number of years.

[Fumblerooskies]

Dude!

[RagingTireFire]

Dude. Indeed.