[Ed Dantes]

comparing ron paul to jefferson is a joke.

You're going to have to do better than that to stir the pot around here.

Well, that's because you guys don't know history. We've had problems with Muslims (or Musslemen, as Jefferson called them) dating back to the founding of this Republic. In fact, protecting Americans against Muslims is why we built our Navy, and why the first verse in the Marine Corps anthem includes the part about going to the "shores of Tripoli".

Go google "Barbary Pirates". These guys were kidnapping Americans, and Jefferson's grand plan was to give 'em a million dollars and get on with it.

[LUconn]

What you say is right, but we already had the barbary war discussion before. I think it's funny that you assumed we don't know history, though.

[El Scorcho]

comparing ron paul to jefferson is a joke.

You're going to have to do better than that to stir the pot around here.

Well, that's because you guys don't know history.

I hope that I'm not included when you said "you guys". I was on your side.

[El Scorcho]

Baptists Not on Board

By Robert D. Novak
Thursday, December 20, 2007; A29

When Mike Huckabee went to Houston on Tuesday to raise funds for his fast-rising, money-starved presidential candidacy, a luncheon for the ordained Baptist minister was arranged by evangelical Christians. On hand was Judge Paul Pressler, a hero to Southern Baptist Convention reformers. But he was a nonpaying guest who supports Fred Thompson for president.

Huckabee greeted Pressler warmly. That contrasted with Huckabee's anger two months ago when they encountered each other in California. The former governor of Arkansas took issue then with comments by Pressler, a former Texas appeals court judge, that Huckabee had been a slacker in the war against secularists within the Baptist church.

The warmth in Texas and hostility in California reflects the dual personality of the pastor-politician who has broken out of the presidential campaign's second tier. Huckabee can come across as either a Reagan or a Nixon. More than personality explains why not all his Baptist brethren have signed on the dotted line for Huckabee. He did not join the "conservative resurgence" that successfully rebelled against liberals in the Southern Baptist Convention a generation ago.

Criticism from co-religionists stands apart from criticism by the Club for Growth, the Cato Institute and the Arkansas Eagle Forum of Huckabee's 10 big-government, high-tax years as governor. Because no Republican candidate since Pat Robertson in 1988 has depended so much on support from evangelicals, opposition by Huckabee's fellow Southern Baptists is significant.

Full Story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 56_pf.html

[RagingTireFire]

What you say is right, but we already had the barbary war discussion before. I think it's funny that you assumed we don't know history, though.

Nobody else in this country does. Why should anyone just assume we're any different?

[Ed Dantes]

What you say is right, but we already had the barbary war discussion before. I think it's funny that you assumed we don't know history, though.

I really can't tell by everyone's avatars who went to public school or not, and thus, would not know about the Barbary's.

Of course, I should have assumed that anyone with an Edvard Munch avatar has somewhat of an education, but I didn't. My mistake.

ALL Things aside -- I'm not a Huckabee fan because he's weak on immigration, taxes, education, pretty much anything of substance...


(by the way, has anyone noticed how much my boy Rudy has tanked since Pat Robertson endorsed him? Pat's got the reverse Midas touch on these things. Have you ever seen 'A Bronx Tale'? i should start calling him 'Mush').