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By Cider Jim
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#113312
...to see who was taking snaps under center? :fbplayer
By SuperJon
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#113315
Brock was. Brock is the starter.
By paradox
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#113317
Was it open or closed?

BTW... direct snaps to Wynton Jackson is a potential gameplan for this week :)
By SuperJon
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#113318
All practices are open.
By paradox
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#113319
Ouch
By Knucklehead
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#113320
Told ya! He's not going to switch at this point.
By paradox
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#113329
We'll have to wait and see exactly what Rocco intends to do.

With 1A Toledo on the horizon, there are a number of ways to interpret this. At this stage, Rocco himself may be in a state of deliberation.

Are we inferring that a player cannot play his way out of a job? Or just this player ?
By SuperJon
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#113331
Or could it be they've seen the potential in Brock (WCU, Chuck South, VMI) and know that he can be a very good quarterback, there are just things that have to be corrected first?
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By El Scorcho
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#113332
paradox wrote:We'll have to wait and see exactly what Rocco intends to do.
Good call. I was going to teleport, but you're right. We'll definitely have to wait.
By auntie ann
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#113338
Brock really is a good quarter back like Super John says, I am sure the players know that also, and remember as a team they all seemed slothlike on Saturday. Maybe not all, but the majority..
By SuperJon
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#113339
When Brock is good he's great. When he's bad he's very bad. Unfortunately we had two of the bad games in a row, with a flash of the good in the W&M game. Whatever it was that he had at the end of last year has to come back. He knows that, the staff knows that, we all know that. It's just a matter of figuring it out.
By TDDance234
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#113341
Brock has only had two "great" games under his resume--

11/11 Charleston Southern W 34-20 12-17 224 2 TD/0 INT
11/18 @Virginia Military W 38-32 8-12 127 1 TD/0 INT

After that, it's hard to even pick out a good game.
By paradox
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#113342
That's one way to look at it, however, the better defenses should have enough film by now and probally know his weaknesses pretty well.
By Rocketfan
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#113343
TDDance234 wrote:Brock has only had two "great" games under his resume--

11/11 Charleston Southern W 34-20 12-17 224 2 TD/0 INT
11/18 @Virginia Military W 38-32 8-12 127 1 TD/0 INT

After that, it's hard to even pick out a good game.
From a sheer stats outlook though the VMI game wouldn't be "great" IMHO. I think Brock needs to work on the mechanics basically and take a deep breath. When you throw the ball high consistently i think that part can be fixed but he needs to amp down a bit as well i think and focus.
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By dwhite
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#113345
From the team:

There were two "Come to Jesus" meetings yesterday. The first was with Coach Rocco and was pretty general.

The second was players only and was led by SRL. Others spoke as well, and from what I hear Monday's practice was one of the best overall practices this season.

Although St. Francis may not pose a huge threat this weekend, it's imparitive that THE FANS get behind our guys. We all need to do everything in our power to fill the Bill on Saturday night. If I was the athletic department I would do whatever I could to increase the attendance at this game. Good to Great doesn't just happen on the field...we have to do our part as well.

I, like every one else, was pretty ticked after Elon, now, I'm ready to move forward and do my part to help LU finish big!
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By Schfourteenteen
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#113347
You could put a concert after the game on the football field
By ALAFlamesFan
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#113348
SuperJon wrote:When Brock is good he's great. When he's bad he's very bad. Unfortunately we had two of the bad games in a row, with a flash of the good in the W&M game. Whatever it was that he had at the end of last year has to come back. He knows that, the staff knows that, we all know that. It's just a matter of figuring it out.
SJ is your real name Lovie Smith? :shock:
By FlamingChick
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paradox wrote:We'll have to wait and see exactly what Rocco intends to do.

With 1A Toledo on the horizon, there are a number of ways to interpret this. At this stage, Rocco himself may be in a state of deliberation.

Are we inferring that a player cannot play his way out of a job? Or just this player ?
You are right, Rocco may be in a state of deliberation, but he hasn't got much time. The team should look FABULOUS on Saturday against a weak opponent, but Toledo will be a totally different story. If Rocco isn't going to make an offensive change, I sure hope he makes some changes on defense. Rocco is 8-7 as a Head Coach at this point. I'd hate to see him fall below .500 with the talent he has.
By paradox
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#113351
I'd hate to think that their isn't life after Brock.
By rogers3
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#113357
Looking at the stats TTDance posted, it seems as though Brock's best games are played when he is attempting less passes. If we find a way to have a consistent rushing game, as we did in those games, Brock's numbers might look a bit different. One of the big differences between W&M and Elon was that we weren't able to generate rushing yardage. When we were running through the W&M defense, the passing game was much more successful.

On a side note- during that last drive of the 4th Q at W&M or in the first OT, didn't we utilize Terrell and Jennings together, with Terrell getting a big gain?
It seems as though these two backs should really complement one another and what better way would there be to open up Brock's game then having a dual threat in the backfield?

Just an uneducated thought![/quote]
By jmdickens
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#113359
Dox.....literally the 1,000 time I was right and you were wrong.


brock will start and you will love on RD
By TDDance234
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Looking at the stats TTDance posted, it seems as though Brock's best games are played when he is attempting less passes. If we find a way to have a consistent rushing game, as we did in those games, Brock's numbers might look a bit different. One of the big differences between W&M and Elon was that we weren't able to generate rushing yardage. When we were running through the W&M defense, the passing game was much more successful.
We left Brock in too many positions where he had to make a play out of nothing. Get the ball out of his hands. We have guys that are very good at being elusive and getting yards after the catch. If the running game isn't working between the tackles, a wide-receiver screen is just as effective as a running play, in most instances.

Virginia Tech did it beautifully with the Vick family. Brock has a better head on his shoulders than those two goofballs--simplify the procedure, give him one or two looks and if those are closed, give him a safety valve, RJ or ZT out of the backfield. Elon killed us with it.
By paradox
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#113371
FlamingChick wrote:
paradox wrote:We'll have to wait and see exactly what Rocco intends to do.

With 1A Toledo on the horizon, there are a number of ways to interpret this. At this stage, Rocco himself may be in a state of deliberation.

Are we inferring that a player cannot play his way out of a job? Or just this player ?
You are right, Rocco may be in a state of deliberation, but he hasn't got much time. The team should look FABULOUS on Saturday against a weak opponent, but Toledo will be a totally different story. If Rocco isn't going to make an offensive change, I sure hope he makes some changes on defense. Rocco is 8-7 as a Head Coach at this point. I'd hate to see him fall below .500 with the talent he has.

Once you make a change a QB, you generally stick with it.

Again, we don't know what's in Rocco's mind. If he decides to go with Spencer at some point, it may be wise to keep him out of the fire and wait until after the Toledo game.

Our upcoming schedule looks pretty soft with the exception of Toledo and Gardner-Webb. There would be four games in between Toledo and GW. I think that we can win all four of those games with any of our current QB's. The question that Rocco is going to have to ask himself is: what if we fall behind against GW? Can Brock lead this team to a comeback win?
By jmdickens
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#113375
The question should be.....How do we keep people from passing all over the field??? That is what wins games, the quarterback can be terrible (Chicago Bears anyone?)
By paradox
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#113380
Your offensive time of possession is going to either help or hurt your defense. Teams like the Bears, Ravens, ect.. do a good job in this area with "servicable" QB's who manage the clock and make plays every now and then. What was our time of possession in the first half against Elon?

Ohhh 6-7?? Man, wrap it up then 😭

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