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By Chippy
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jbock13 wrote:
Chippy wrote:Enough with the bunting already. :frustrated

There are 11 teams in the BSC and there were 8 teams that bunted (sacrificed) more than us. Coastal had 76 bunts and Campbell had 58 and they had the best offense in the league. We had 42 sacrifice bunts. LET IT GO!
That doesn't take into account how many attempts we tried. Also, Coastal played tougher competition, therefore played closer games, therefore bunted more.

Baseball is a sport of many strategies. That's the beauty of it.
Then explain Campbell. Is it possible that Coastal and Campbell also were not always successful with their sacrifice attempts? Bunting IS one of those strategies ALL colleges employ. We actually employ it a lot less than most colleges.
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By jbock13
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Chippy wrote:
jbock13 wrote:
Chippy wrote:Enough with the bunting already. :frustrated

There are 11 teams in the BSC and there were 8 teams that bunted (sacrificed) more than us. Coastal had 76 bunts and Campbell had 58 and they had the best offense in the league. We had 42 sacrifice bunts. LET IT GO!
That doesn't take into account how many attempts we tried. Also, Coastal played tougher competition, therefore played closer games, therefore bunted more.

Baseball is a sport of many strategies. That's the beauty of it.
Then explain Campbell. Is it possible that Coastal and Campbell also were not always successful with their sacrifice attempts? Bunting IS one of those strategies ALL colleges employ. We actually employ it a lot less than most colleges.
Did Campbell win the conference tournament?
By Chippy
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You mean you don't know who won the tournament :lol: Last I checked Coastal won the last 6 years and for 6 years they probably lead the conference in sacrifice bunts because that's is the philosophy of their coach, yet our coach who bunts sparingly, apparently is incompetent?. Maybe if we bunted more, like Coastal, maybe we could win the conference. I guess I've been around baseball as a player and a high school coach and I guess I tend to favor the bunt because of the pressure it puts on the defense to make the play, especially if you're blessed with speed. I keep hearing that bunting takes us out of a big inning. Nothing takes you out of a big inning (which is NEVER guaranteed) like a double play. Moving the runner up on a sac bunt is playing the odds. I've made my point and so I'll close my end of this discussion. You may carry on :|
By krh44
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And there is still a possibility that he could wind up attending Liberty University.

“It’s 50-50 right now,” Josh said. “We don’t know what we’re going to do. My parents and I are going to put our heads together, pray, like we’ve been doing the whole time, and go from there.”

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http://www.suffolknewsherald.com/2012/0 ... olk-senior
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By jbock13
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Chippy wrote:You mean you don't know who won the tournament :lol: Last I checked Coastal won the last 6 years and for 6 years they probably lead the conference in sacrifice bunts because that's is the philosophy of their coach, yet our coach who bunts sparingly, apparently is incompetent?. Maybe if we bunted more, like Coastal, maybe we could win the conference. I guess I've been around baseball as a player and a high school coach and I guess I tend to favor the bunt because of the pressure it puts on the defense to make the play, especially if you're blessed with speed. I keep hearing that bunting takes us out of a big inning. Nothing takes you out of a big inning (which is NEVER guaranteed) like a double play. Moving the runner up on a sac bunt is playing the odds. I've made my point and so I'll close my end of this discussion. You may carry on :|
Nope, I was just reminding you that Campbell didn't win.

Coastal bunts more because they play higher competition. So they play closer games. So bunting actually makes sense in those situations.

I like you Chippy, but I just hate Toman's coaching philosophy. As a Rays fan, I've seen a lot of wacky ideas work (Joe Maddon). But bunting when you're down by 3 in a championship game isn't one of them. It's beyond stupid.
By sporter
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Back to the draft. Looks like we have our first casualty of the recruiting class as JUCO SS Joel Licon signed with the Twins yesterday.
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By BJWilliams
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So Baylor laid down a sac bunt tonight in game 3 of the super regional...does their coach get fired too?
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By jbock13
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BJWilliams wrote:So Baylor laid down a sac bunt tonight in game 3 of the super regional...does their coach get fired too?
Depends why they did it.
By SuperJon
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BJWilliams wrote:So Baylor laid down a sac bunt tonight in game 3 of the super regional...does their coach get fired too?
Are you retarded or just plain stupid?

That question alone shows how clueless you really are.
By Chippy
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sporter wrote:Back to the draft. Looks like we have our first casualty of the recruiting class as JUCO SS Joel Licon signed with the Twins yesterday.
Darn, we need to replace Zack Haley.
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By BJWilliams
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SuperJon wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:So Baylor laid down a sac bunt tonight in game 3 of the super regional...does their coach get fired too?
Are you retarded or just plain stupid?

That question alone shows how clueless you really are.
Maybe I should just be intentionally ludicrous all the time because I seem to always get a rise out of you.
By SuperJon
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You weren't being intentionally anything. You were serious. Then, like always, you threw out the "I was doing it on purpose" line to get out of it.
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By jinxy
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I didn't see Toman at the golf tourney Friday. I saw Layer, Gill, Olinger, almost the entire football staff, coach thomas, carey green, and some others. Maybe he doesn't play golf or something but is there anythign to that? I would think you'd want all coaches at that. It was very well done btw, Turner presents himself as a much more down to earth guy that Danny did (not that it's a big deal, just a observation).

Yes shortstop is probably our biggest need along with pitching. Zach did well this year but he doesn't really have the range you want at SS like Matty had.
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By BJWilliams
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SuperJon wrote:You weren't being intentionally anything. You were serious. Then, like always, you threw out the "I was doing it on purpose" line to get out of it.
to a degree I was...but as I said, its easy enough to get a rise out of you because of your dislike of Toman (and some of his in game decisions which I will agree left me wondering many times too). So when I saw a top 5 team doing the same thing, I figured it'd bring you to the table again. When a bunt (or hit and run or any sort of strategic baseball maneuver), the coach is a genius, or a maverick, or something along those lines. When it doesn't work, of course people are gonna question it (with good reason in some cases), course, Baylor ended up losing that game but that's because both sets of pitchers are putting up 0's like they were goin out of style and in that situation, youre gonna have to scratch something out any way possible.
By SuperJon
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Beej, I've never complained about the bunting. My dislike goes much deeper than bunting.
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By BJWilliams
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Which is fine...and thats between you and Coach Toman unless we're talking something illegal (whether NCAA violations or breaking some sort of law). As Ive said already, If I were Barber (which Im not obviously) Id at least be thinking about possibly buying him out and getting a new face in ahead of the new Worthington Stadium opening early next year
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By Schfourteenteen
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SuperJon wrote:You weren't being intentionally anything. You were serious. Then, like always, you threw out the "I was doing it on purpose" line to get out of it.
Stop being so freaking condescending. And mean. And stuff.
By ballah09
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Grant and Henderson haven't signed yet with a few days left (July 15 deadline). I think they are likely coming which is great news.

any news on transfers?
By Flamepop
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Henderson has not received his offer from the Dodgers yet. They wanted to see him against some top notch competetion first so he is playing with the Penninsula Pilots (and Danny Grauer) in the Coastal Plain League and tearing it up against older D1 pitching. He wants to sign, his parents are not so sure. There may be some other factors in play here. Time will tell.
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By Sly Fox
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Thanks for the intel, Flamepop. It'd be awesome if somehow he makes it onto our roster.
By ballah09
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wow. i think he could get more money by playing 3 yrs. he has first round potential.


Liberty will need some power pitchers and some left hitting batters or it might be a long year :?
By krh44
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ballah09 wrote:wow. i think he could get more money by playing 3 yrs. he has first round potential.


Liberty will need some power pitchers and some left hitting batters or it might be a long year :?

Toman said after the BSC that we had left handed hitters coming in......
By sporter
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3 left-handed hitting freshman coming in including Henderson. Also a left handed JUCO outfielder who hit for average and stole a decent amount of bases. One JUCO lefty pitcher sounds like he will be counted on but what could make or break the staff next year may be two pitchers who came in last year after being injured in high school and having Tommy John. Both Adam Parks and Kyle McKelvey were low 90's guys that will be needed next year.

Shortstop could remain an issue after Licon signing after the draft and no apparent replacement for Haley on the roster.
By mlschubert
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sounds like Henderson is hitting well:
Henderson hopes to use the time with the Peninsula Pilots to prove his worth and, based on his start, has probably only improved his negotiating ability.

He has played four games for the Pilots, starting two, and is 7 for 12 with a home run and three stolen bases. He went 2 for 2 in his debut, singling up the middle in his first at-bat against a college pitcher and catching a low line drive in right field.

"Yeah, that felt good," Henderson said of the fast start.

Known for his hitting, Henderson is focused on showing - and improving - his defense. He's playing right field, as opposed to center, which he played in high school.

"I've already learned a lot," said Henderson, who will go to Liberty if he remains unsigned. "The pace of the game, everything is faster. The way the college guys approach the game, the little adjustments they make, the way they think."
http://hamptonroads.com/2012/07/suffolk ... ns-dodgers
By Flamepop
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Josh Henderson signed earlier today with the Dodgers. I wish him well, they got a heck of a player.
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