[olldflame]

Not in.

[Cider Jim]

LU is SHUT OUT again.

[Th3rd]

And we get left out... kinda mad cause Grambling gets in with a 22-30 record.... havent checked but I guess that means they won their conference

[Chris Lang]

Liberty has no gripe. 0-7 against the Top 50. Lost two of three to a bad Winthrop team at the end of the season. I think that killed the Flames even more than the 0-7.

[BJWilliams]

They did...

Real sad for the guys (especially the fifth year guys)...all we can think about it what might have been now...but this was quite a ride that I wish didnt have to end this past weekend

[Sly Fox]

NO one will argue that we didn't deserve to be in based on our own merits ... but it won't stop us from comparing ourselves to the final teams who made it in. It is who we are.

[Th3rd]

Just means what we already knew going into the conference tourney... we needed to at least force it to a deciding game to be a serious contender... dropped a lot of mid week games and lost some games we should have won.... i feel bad for the seniors, but i know it will be motivation for the guys next year

[SuperJon]

We didn't deserve to get in. You can win a ton of games but it's not as big of a deal if you don't beat anybody.

[kdinva]

Liberty has no gripe. 0-7 against the Top 50. Lost two of three to a bad Winthrop team at the end of the season. I think that killed the Flames even more than the 0-7.

so close, guys. Elon (RPI 49) got in, I guess the committee thought your RPI of 45 "not good enough?". Maybe just one more win over Winthrop earlier would have done it. Or, if you all had swept UNCA earlier (I bet the committee saw that, too).

Still a tip of the cap for the 42 wins, etc.

[Sly Fox]

Thanks, kdinva. Obviously if we had beaten Elon we might have had a much better case. But alas ...

[Cider Jim]

And there's no NIT for baseball, is there?

[bigsmooth]

we did not deserve to get in simple that. what surprised me was coastal as the #4 national seed. since im a UVA homer, the hoos had a #2 RPI, #9 SOS over a #44 coastal, they beat coastal head to head...just weird to me, but coastal will have a great series with the gamecocks if they can get to the supers. the wolfpack and C of C will be no slouch though. good luck to the chants.

[olldflame]

Liberty has no gripe. 0-7 against the Top 50. Lost two of three to a bad Winthrop team at the end of the season. I think that killed the Flames even more than the 0-7.

so close, guys. Elon (RPI 49) got in, I guess the committee thought your RPI of 45 "not good enough?". Maybe just one more win over Winthrop earlier would have done it. Or, if you all had swept UNCA earlier (I bet the committee saw that, too).

Still a tip of the cap for the 42 wins, etc.

We played Elon home and away and they beat us twice. Unfortunately, the title of this thread is on target.

[jenkins]

4 reasons we were left out

-losing home and away to Elon, a team that we battled for the last spots
-swept by Duke, a lower tier ACC team that we needed to split with at least
-Bullpen blowing big leads that cost us sweeps of manhattan and SJU
-losing the winthrop and UNCA series

I guarantee you that if we beat Elon once, Duke once, hold the lead against Manhattand and SJU and the winthrop and UNCA series we are in as 3.

The argument of not beating coastal and VT is faulty and if you listened to the selection show you heard them discuss this topic in depth regarding GT and then it's discussed again on several other sites. We simply allowed them too many reasons to leave us out. We could've went 0 and 5 against VT and Coastal and still got in with ease had we not blew so many leads.

I know those are a big if but if you re-call each of those games, we should have won them and had we had a strong bullpen early the year we would've won those games and probably the high point game as well.

Either way I agree that we were one of the last times out and that is about right. It gives us the tape measure for what we need to do in the future and shows that can't have a delaware state on our schedule and probably need to pick up one more series a year against a top 25 caliber team.

[SuperJon]

I can get behind that completely jenkins. We blew a 9-0 lead to Manhattan. We blew a 5-2 lead against St. John's. We blew a 4-3 lead against HPU and had a chance to win and didn't take advantage of it. We lost two one-run games to Asheville and a one-run game to Duke.

Let's assume we don't blow those leads to Manhattan and St. John's. That's 44 wins. Let's say we pull Beakler and he doesn't give up the 2-run bomb or we bunt Curran with two on and no outs against HPU. That's 45 wins. Let's say we win one of the two run games to UNCA. That's 46 wins.

Even without beating Coastal or Tech, had we not given away games and won the games we should've, we would've been in the regionals. Unfortunately we were just really good at trying to give away games in the late innings (those games, PC, Mason, Manhattan).

[LUminary]

No doubt the 0-7 vs. top 50 was a killer. Losing to Elon ends that head-to-head comparison, plus Elon had a decent record against top 50. The one I don't get is New Mexico, which got an at-large. They where 52 in RPI (seven spots lower than Liberty), 3-8 against top 50 isn't exactly impressive and the Mountain West (No. 10) is about the same as the Big South in RPI (No. 11), and strengh of schedule was about the same. Maybe geography helped them.

[Chris Lang]

New Mexico won a series at Texas. That was a big factor.

[Th3rd]

4 reasons we were left out

-losing home and away to Elon, a team that we battled for the last spots
-swept by Duke, a lower tier ACC team that we needed to split with at least
-Bullpen blowing big leads that cost us sweeps of manhattan and SJU
-losing the winthrop and UNCA series

I guarantee you that if we beat Elon once, Duke once, hold the lead against Manhattand and SJU and the winthrop and UNCA series we are in as 3.

The argument of not beating coastal and VT is faulty and if you listened to the selection show you heard them discuss this topic in depth regarding GT and then it's discussed again on several other sites. We simply allowed them too many reasons to leave us out. We could've went 0 and 5 against VT and Coastal and still got in with ease had we not blew so many leads.

I know those are a big if but if you re-call each of those games, we should have won them and had we had a strong bullpen early the year we would've won those games and probably the high point game as well.

Either way I agree that we were one of the last times out and that is about right. It gives us the tape measure for what we need to do in the future and shows that can't have a delaware state on our schedule and probably need to pick up one more series a year against a top 25 caliber team.

Isn't this the same thing we said about football 2 years in a row. If we win the games we are supposed to win we are in (i.e. Presby and Stony Brook the past 2 years in football).... Its as simple as winning games and leaving no doubt which is something that Liberty is unfortunately historically not known for in any sport. Hopefully the guys who remain and the incoming freshman will be able to build on a great season and do what this team could not.... i guess its another year of Unfinished Business..... That seems to be becoming a slogan that I sure hope we can finally break next year in every sport....

[Cider Jim]

New Mexico won a series at Texas. That was a big factor.

Sly, have you hacked into Lang's computer?

[jcmanson]

I don't know why anybody got their hopes up. We had Zero chance of making it. I didn't even watch the selection show.

[NG33]

I don't know why anybody got their hopes up. We had Zero chance of making it. I didn't even watch the selection show.

+1

We all kinda saw this coming. We just never capitalized on the opportunities presented to us. Hopefully next year we can get it together and leave no doubt for the committee next selection monday.

[SuperJon]

I don't know why anybody got their hopes up. We had Zero chance of making it. I didn't even watch the selection show.

I wanted to see where Coastal would go. I knew they had a shot for something high but getting #4 was crazy.

[bigsmooth]

still trying to understand how coastal was a #4 national seed.....lang any thoughts??

[Sly Fox]

If I were guessing it would be because unlike many of the other top seeds they didn't have any major late stumbles. And sometimes committees like to throw a bone to mid-major conferences. And CCU certainly made a case to be deserving of a bone. Now if they don't make it to Omaha, it may be a long time before another mid-major league team gets a national seed like this.

[bigsmooth]

that's poor reasoning IMO. UVA played great all year, and lost one game in that ridiculous round robin format the ACC has and gets a #5 national seed?? makes no sense.