JK37 wrote:rueful wrote:So if we grow to our goal of 25000 someday, this will probably translate the same way with the commuters, to where about 2/3 live on campus, and 1/3 are commuters
Let me throw my .02 in here and say that IF the resident enrollment ever reaches 25,000, its unrealistic to think that 2/3 will live on-campus. There is no resident university of that size in the nation that includes on-campus student housing in the amount of 2/3 of it's resident population.
Furthermore, with the passing of Dr. Falwell, a distinct change in vision occurred. Capping of enrollment would NEVER have happened while he was alive. JJ favors quality over quantity. No right vs. wrong here, just a shift in philosophy. Even more, he realizes that the Vines Center cannot fully and properly serve the campus community if it is first considered as a convocation hall. Therefore, convocation will be adapted as the primary employment of the facility continues its proper shift to athletics.
Also, in calling the campus' spiritual climate "mediocre," you are revealing the true axe you seem so persistent in grinding in this debate. You must rest your assumption of this mediocrity on the idea that it has declined because convo is no longer one unified, live event. SJ's facts about current church models prove that such practice does work in many venues nationwide. And, the current shift is towards more of them, not less.
Finally, if your entire argument is based on the premise of Dr. Falwell's 50,000 goal (which he stopped stating as a 25k/25k split even while he was still alive), you must realize that with currently 11,300 resident and over 28,000 DLP, that goal will not be realized with 25,000 resident. Even Dr. Falwell realized that before his passing. I predict resident enrollment will remain capped for the next decade as University infrastructure is progressively enhanced and upgraded.
alright. I dont think its unreasonable to think that close to 2/3 of students will live on campus, at the very least, over half the students will. Certain aspects about LU cannot be compared to other universities, we are a distinct university. This is something to be remembered at all times. LU is not like other universities, and we should not lose this aspect about us.
Yes a shift in vision occurred with the passing of the torch. But its ludacris to think Jr. isnt still committed to the vision of his father, he just has a different way of going about it.
IM NOT SAYING YOU ARE SAYING THIS, ITS JUST A THOUGHT, SO DONT SAY "I NEVER SAID THAT" BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING YOU AREIt will be a sad day for LU if we ever lowered standards of spiritual growth in order to accomodate Athletic growth.
I already answered that Mediocrity of campus has nothing to do with convocation. If you read any thing you would have seen just a few inches above where I said "I havent gone to convo all week" obviously I dont think that is the precipice of spiritual growth on campus. Its far too easy to fake Christianity on campus (and yes, I understand its like this on other universities, ive been to many other christian college campuses) but that doesnt mean we should just say oh well, its something we cant change.
Your last statement, your stats are outdated. LU Online is supposed to cap 50,000 students by the end of this year. And I dont see what any of that has to do with the fact that at some day LU will grow to 25,000 students. Again, we are a distinct University, we have things that seperate us from other Universities, even other Christian Universities. Yes, enrollment is capped, but I didnt hear Jr saying the school will never grow above 12,000 students.
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