If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By flamesfilmguy
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Oh realist, the :koolaid runs thick through your veins. and while I admire your extreme fanaticism i think its time to put down the pitcher and step back into reality. We'll see what happens come sat. :twisted: I have a feeling we'll be pulling out the you need marshall chant.... I hope 8)
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By jcmanson
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You think Realist is bad here, you're missing out if you don't read WU's board.
realist wrote:WU's program is bigger than a season or a single game. It's been total domination for a long time. You have to prove you can do something more than win one game, if you can even do that.

Listen to EagleNC, he knows what he is talking about. Mckay is a job hopper who leaves after he turns a program to shambles or gets fired. Who cares where he has coached, he's just proved he is mediocre at best when he's been there.
That's just a small sample.
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By flamesfilmguy
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jcmanson wrote:You think Realist is bad here, you're missing out if you don't read WU's board.
realist wrote:WU's program is bigger than a season or a single game. It's been total domination for a long time. You have to prove you can do something more than win one game, if you can even do that.

Listen to EagleNC, he knows what he is talking about. Mckay is a job hopper who leaves after he turns a program to shambles or gets fired. Who cares where he has coached, he's just proved he is mediocre at best when he's been there.
That's just a small sample.
Thats exactly why i don't go to that board very often... well only when they are losing. anyway it just goes to show that no matter what present day facts are put in front of them some people will cling to the past.
By Realist
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SCAR wrote:Yes realist I have to say the analogy are weak. I certainly remember when WU was the worst team in the conference. Basically you caught lightning in a bottle with Gregg Marshall and you won last year with 3 of Marshall's players that never lost a big south tournament conference game. Anyone who has ever coached at this level or played at the division 1 level will tell you that there are no guarantees of winning. The NCAA is very competitive and to expect to just dominate year after year is just not reasonable. There are probably 5-8 programs that are in that category in terms of winning their league every year. I don't think WU is that good this year and Randy has his work cut out for him if they want to get back to the top of the big south. I don't see how anyone thinks WU is better than Liberty this season having seen both teams.
Scar, I think you know basketball better than most on here but the LU kool-aid runs thick through you too. You claimed in the Larry Blair years that LU could compete against WU and they were not even close.

This isn't the late 80's early 90's anymore. I challenge you look up and see if anyone has won more regular seasons or conference tourneys in this decade than WU has in their respective leagues. I bet you won't find more than 3-4, if that. WU is one of those programs that consistently dominates, with the exception of a 5th or 6th year cycle where they sustain injuries and have turnover. You actually just made my point for me by citing 5-8 programs.

WU has a program vastly superior to anyone in the league. One year of injuries and inexperience isn't going change things in the long run.

And if you think LU is on the rise and WU is going down, why did we win the first meeting?

Like I said, you better win now if you can. The window in this league only opens very rarely for another team to step through and win. Then it closes very fast.
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By dompennix
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Realist wrote:
SCAR wrote:Yes realist I have to say the analogy are weak. I certainly remember when WU was the worst team in the conference. Basically you caught lightning in a bottle with Gregg Marshall and you won last year with 3 of Marshall's players that never lost a big south tournament conference game. Anyone who has ever coached at this level or played at the division 1 level will tell you that there are no guarantees of winning. The NCAA is very competitive and to expect to just dominate year after year is just not reasonable. There are probably 5-8 programs that are in that category in terms of winning their league every year. I don't think WU is that good this year and Randy has his work cut out for him if they want to get back to the top of the big south. I don't see how anyone thinks WU is better than Liberty this season having seen both teams.
Scar, I think you know basketball better than most on here but the LU kool-aid runs thick through you too. You claimed in the Larry Blair years that LU could compete against WU and they were not even close.

This isn't the late 80's early 90's anymore. I challenge you look up and see if anyone has won more regular seasons or conference tourneys in this decade than WU has in their respective leagues. I bet you won't find more than 3-4, if that. WU is one of those programs that consistently dominates, with the exception of a 5th or 6th year cycle where they sustain injuries and have turnover. You actually just made my point for me by citing 5-8 programs.

WU has a program vastly superior to anyone in the league. One year of injuries and inexperience isn't going change things in the long run.

And if you think LU is on the rise and WU is going down, why did we win the first meeting?

Like I said, you better win now if you can. The window in this league only opens very rarely for another team to step through and win. Then it closes very fast.
Uh oh. I wouldn't doubt Scar's knowledge
By sweetnahmah1
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WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????
By coolhandluke
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Unless you guys have an amazing recruiting class next year, you are still going to suck. And you are right, this isn't the 80s or 90s anymore. You guys had a good run, but now its over.
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By BJWilliams
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Winthrop has been very good when it matters that cannot be disputed. You my friend are what most would call an optimist, Not a realist (course optimism taken to its logical extreme is what would be termed "drinking the kool-aid"). a realist would look at the team this year and see teh growing pains that have been made very apparent. This isnt the same Winthrop team that rolled over everyone and their next of kin on their way to a win in the NCAA tournament. Obviously Randy Peele is no Gregg Marshall and guys really are having similar expectations of your program that some LU fans have of our women's basketball program and that is an expectation that youre just gonna walk right in and roll everybody on the way to the NCAA tournament. Obviously the girls foudn out the hard way a couple years ago that you cant go in feeling like that every year because someone is gonna deliver that knockout punch that you werent lookin for.
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By jinxy
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haha, realist is the colin cowherd of flamesfans
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By Fumblerooskies
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BJWilliams wrote:Obviously Randy Peele is no Gregg Marshall
He's not even PENNY Marshall....
By kdinva
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Good luck tomorrow nite. Huge game for LU (7-5) to remain in the top-4, and huge for WU (5-7) to get closer to 4th. Looking at the balance of the schedules, UNC-A (6-6) is home-heavy the rest of February, and them finishing 10-8 is very much realistic (my keydets helped there, unfortunatly) :(
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By WinthropEagleFan
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As for the game Saturday, Reggie Middleton will definitely be out for WU and he'll likely miss the rest of the season with a broken fibula. Justin Burton will get the start at PG...Manny Robinson's x-rays on his ankle came out negative and he's 'day-to-day'...if he's unable to go, then either Raymond Davis or Cameron Stanley will get the nod at SF.
By olldflame
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Does anyone know why this game is at 9:00? I seem to recall hearing that WSET is broadcasting it. Is that why?
By LUconn
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don't they broadcast a bunch of games on like 13-2 or something? I don't get those stations so I'm not sure.
By SuperJon
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olldflame wrote:Does anyone know why this game is at 9:00? I seem to recall hearing that WSET is broadcasting it. Is that why?
MASN. They've got a Big South doubleheader going. We're the late game this week. We were the early game last weekend.
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By Fumblerooskies
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LUconn wrote:don't they broadcast a bunch of games on like 13-2 or something? I don't get those stations so I'm not sure.
They have picked up all the FTN feeds.
By olldflame
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WinthropEagleFan wrote:As for the game Saturday, Reggie Middleton will definitely be out for WU and he'll likely miss the rest of the season with a broken fibula. Justin Burton will get the start at PG...Manny Robinson's x-rays on his ankle came out negative and he's 'day-to-day'...if he's unable to go, then either Raymond Davis or Cameron Stanley will get the nod at SF.
Where's Vince Lombardi when you need him? "That's a non-weightbearing bone!" Just kidding WEF. Tough break for you guys.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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I hope Greg Marshall has MASN!!!!!

I will say it hasnt been as fun since Ol Purple Face left us. :(

I expect a good game and we need this "W"
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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P.S. Gooooooo VMI!!!!
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Another Side note: I think its funny their Assistant AD's name is Jack Frost.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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Ok My Last Post before anyone else i promise... Im going to have a special surprise at the game :D Im not going to say too much, but look to the LUnatics
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By Sly Fox
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Rock Hill Herald wrote:Saturday, Feb. 07, 2009
Hobbled Eagles set to take on the Flames

By Gary McCann - The Herald


As he got ready to for practice Friday afternoon in the Winthrop Coliseum, coach Randy Peele probably didn't know whether to call a set or an ambulance.

Reggie Middleton, his point guard, leaned on crutches, his foot in a bulky, black walking boot as he watched from the edge of the court. Middleton fractured the fibula in his right leg during Wednesday's game with VMI, may face surgery and is out for the season.

Mantoris Robinson, who missed the VMI game with a sprained right ankle, did some light jogging around the edge of the court before heading to the sidelines to sink his leg in bucket of ice water.

And Charles Corbin, the starting center, had an ice bag jammed down the front of his shorts while he pedaled a stationary bike. He pulled something during weight lifting just before practice and was unable to go.
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By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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Making Excuses already?!
By Realist
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If WU wins I'm going to have a good :lol:


Looks like they will only play with 8 guys tonight.
By LUconn
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Sandbagger.
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