[flameshaw]

109-72



u suck

CCU Valedictorian?

[kingaling42]

WU leads by 5 with 7 seconds left after being down 23 at half.

Yep 10 points by CSU in the 2nd half to WU's 38 leads to a 57-52 WU win- but does WU's "basketball tradition" include throwing things on the floor during the opposing teams free throws when the game's still in the balance?? That's pretty lame, be a REALIST about that too...

Haha. Dude, get real. Someone dropped a pizza box and crust rolled on the floor. It wasn't intentional.

Yeah- ok Realist.. I mean I've dropped pizza boxes before- however, the crust has NEVER rolled 30 feet + up 4 inches to court level just as a free throw is going up with the game up for grabs.. I guess I've never ordered a large, bouncy crust pie before...

[WWJFD]

HA! In the 5 minutes it took me to get home all of the boo-birds have crawled out of their holes. What are you guys even talking about? Has anyone here ever doubted Alex McLean's value in the post? I would love for you to find one statement on this board to the contrary, because I don't believe it exists, and if it does, I would love to tell that person that they're an idiot. Where have you guys been? Have you lit up your inthebeginning bat signal yet?

scroll through the posts and read carefully...some expert claimed that a post player would not have made a difference tonight and the higher basketball IQ's were quick to ask to review Alex's stats vs. VMI the last 2 years...

and I am sorry you do not get spanked by 30+ on your home floor by a ok team.. now if its winthrop when they were loaded, I could understand...but VMI...

just guard seth kyle and smitty and you will win 99 out of 100 vs. Liberty is the new motto in the big south. the secret is out

[Hold My Own]

I'm ill


The only one that showed heart for 40 minutes was Ritchie McKay

[thepostman]

HA! In the 5 minutes it took me to get home all of the boo-birds have crawled out of their holes. What are you guys even talking about? Has anyone here ever doubted Alex McLean's value in the post? I would love for you to find one statement on this board to the contrary, because I don't believe it exists, and if it does, I would love to tell that person that they're an idiot. Where have you guys been? Have you lit up your inthebeginning bat signal yet?

scroll through the posts and read carefully...some expert claimed that a post player would not have made a difference tonight and the higher basketball IQ's were quick to ask to review Alex's stats vs. VMI the last 2 years...

and I am sorry you do not get spanked by 30+ on your home floor by a ok team.. now if its winthrop when they were loaded, I could understand...but VMI...

just guard seth kyle and smitty and you will win 99 out of 100 vs. Liberty is the new motto in the big south. the secret is out

true to an extent...but Jesse is the guy that brings the energy and sadly without him these guys don't seem to understand you have to bring it every night...it has been very clear these past 2 games how important he is...

remember nobody from the past is walking through the door...

[LUconn]

And for the person earlier that was talking about tired legs and all, they may be tired, but that's not what was going on tonight. The offense was stale. The defense was nonexistant. VMI was locking down the whole night, and nobody seemed to be able to create or do anything on their own. There were a ton of forced shots. On defense, I'd have to say VMI got an open look on a 3 point shot from a simple no-frills screen every single possession. I'm not sure why it turned out to be such a rubik's cube to solve. Still, the % that they were sinking was impressive. I've never personally witnessed such a domination in the Vines. And I haven't missed many home games in the last 9 years. Ritchie even said in the postgame that he knew they had talked to Greenburg looking for tips. They basically only guarded 3 players, and it was fairly obvious.

[WWJFD]

Pretty ugly, couldn't say I didn't see it coming, didn't listen to the game or watch the live stats, just had a feeling. If you can say there is such a thing as a good loss, this might be one, we will see. Young team, late in the year, time to re-focus. Anyone know why RMK was upset, beside the obvious spanking?

maybe because duggar kept his starters in too long, that looks like the only thing that could be seen from the stands...????

[rogers3]

Pretty ugly, couldn't say I didn't see it coming, didn't listen to the game or watch the live stats, just had a feeling. If you can say there is such a thing as a good loss, this might be one, we will see. Young team, late in the year, time to re-focus. Anyone know why RMK was upset, beside the obvious spanking?

I couldn't tell what it was. One of the refs was holding him back.

Scar's comment referred to some issue between KO and a VMI player. Who knows- if we weren't getting blown out, everyone's temperament would have been different.

[Realist]

Yep 10 points by CSU in the 2nd half to WU's 38 leads to a 57-52 WU win- but does WU's "basketball tradition" include throwing things on the floor during the opposing teams free throws when the game's still in the balance?? That's pretty lame, be a REALIST about that too...

Haha. Dude, get real. Someone dropped a pizza box and crust rolled on the floor. It wasn't intentional.

Yeah- ok Realist.. I mean I've dropped pizza boxes before- however, the crust has NEVER rolled 30 feet + up 4 inches to court level just as a free throw is going up with the game up for grabs.. I guess I've never ordered a large, bouncy crust pie before...

This is what happened:

"I was right next to the infamous pizza!!!!

The guy didn't mean to throw it. He was banging the pizza box on the chairs which broke the box. A slice flew up (way up) and out of the box and landed near the basket. You can also ask the CSU radio team, my dad was listening to the game and he said they saw the bow break too.

Also, I don't know what you saw but it didn't land that far on the court.

End of story. It wasn't intentional. They just need to make pizza boxes stronger. "

[LUconn]

Pretty ugly, couldn't say I didn't see it coming, didn't listen to the game or watch the live stats, just had a feeling. If you can say there is such a thing as a good loss, this might be one, we will see. Young team, late in the year, time to re-focus. Anyone know why RMK was upset, beside the obvious spanking?

I couldn't tell what it was. One of the refs was holding him back.

Scar's comment referred to some issue between KO and a VMI player. Who knows- if we weren't getting blown out, everyone's temperament would have been different.

Kenon was riding Ohman all night and basically dominating him. I could tell Ohman's frustrations were building with every situtation. There was a little bit of stoppage because of it a few times. I guess that could have been it. Maybe Kyle should just play better.

[WWJFD]

won't get any easier in radford saturday playing against the monsters they have inside...

poor ritchie...even the coaches around the league are out to get him...comparing notes... eesh!!

[kingaling42]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

[LUconn]

won't get any easier in radford saturday playing against the monsters they have inside...

poor ritchie...even the coaches around the league are out to get him...comparing notes... eesh!!

dude, what's your deal? I don't think anybody including RMK, thinks you should feel sorry for him.

[ToTheLeft]

Guys, shut up. One game doesn't tell you anything about a team, a program, or anything.

This is just like...

after the UNCA game

"We won't win but maybe 2 conference games. let's hope UVA doesn't kill us."

we beat UVA and almost beat clemson

"now, when we get our 13 seed to the dance and win the rest of our conference games..."

we lose to Winthrop and Presby

"We need a big man, Kyle needs to stop shooting"

we go on a winning streak

"RMK is doing a good job with this team..."

we lose to ODU and VMI

"we need a post player, RMK sucks."


How about you look at the whole season?

We have 20 freaking wins. This is in coach's SECOND year. TWENTY. Props to that.

We have played a lot of very good basketball this year. Big road wins at CCU, CSU, VMI, and UVA. We suck on the road historically, so consider that a bright spot and proof that RMK might know what he's freaking doin.

If you guys don't like RMK and his style, LC has a basketball team you can support. Or suck it up and pull for him even if you don't agree. RMK has brought this team to the point where we're on ESPN. Come on people, doesn't that mean anything? Just because he won't conform to the armchair coaches who want Art Parahouski down low to score 50 and get 30 rebounds, he sucks as a coach?

He has a style, and it freaking works. I am 100% behind this team, and excited to see what they can do in this years tourney, and in the next 3 seasons. This is the start, not the end. So stop being pretending that since you watch Steven A Smith, Dick Vitale, and Steve Lavin on TV that you know coach a team, sit back, and watch a great coach and a great man put an excellent team on the floor every night.

Go Flames, Beat Radford, and let's make a run in the tourney.

[flame fan-tastic]

I feel sorry for the 7000 fans that showed up.

I feel sorry for Anthony Smith because most of those 7000 fans left on his senior night... not that they were showing any support in the first place.

[WWJFD]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

good points...but alex ran the floor well. i think in 1 game he had 41 and 22 against them...so it is possible. on the flip side...vmi would have to defend a good post player as well... so it can be looked at either way. i also heard lu was 9 of 33 from 3... that will not win too many games either...

i was not looking at the stats...its just that someone said a post presence would not matter and i disagreed.

[ToTheLeft]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

Exactly...

You guys know what happened when Austin and Tyler were on the floor?

They were pulled out to guard Travis and Chavis and would get schooled, and then there's no one in the paint to help out.

Just because Alex got 40/20 against them doesnt mean he didnt give up buckets on the defensive end. He was just a versatile post presence who was the key to our offense. That's not the key anymore. If Seth had gone for 40 tonight no one would be crying for more post play. You guys are so freaking outcome based, which is why you will never ever be good coaches, and should let RMK do his job.

It's about the process and technique, not the outcome.

[LUconn]

I feel sorry for the 7000 fans that showed up.

I feel sorry for Anthony Smith because most of those 7000 fans left on his senior night... not that they were showing any support in the first place.

Excellent point. I'd say 5000 were late and missed his tribute, and 5000 left early and missed his ovation at the end of the game. It's sad that his fellow students don't care or are too stupid to realize this.

[WWJFD]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

Exactly...

You guys know what happened when Austin and Tyler were on the floor?

They were pulled out to guard Travis and Chavis and would get schooled, and then there's no one in the paint to help out.

Just because Alex got 40/20 against them doesnt mean he didnt give up buckets on the defensive end. He was just a versatile post presence who was the key to our offense. That's not the key anymore. If Seth had gone for 40 tonight no one would be crying for more post play. You guys are so freaking outcome based, which is why you will never ever be good coaches, and should let RMK do his job.

It's about the process and technique, not the outcome.

Sorry, coach

[LUconn]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

Exactly...

You guys know what happened when Austin and Tyler were on the floor?

They were pulled out to guard Travis and Chavis and would get schooled, and then there's no one in the paint to help out.

Just because Alex got 40/20 against them doesnt mean he didnt give up buckets on the defensive end. He was just a versatile post presence who was the key to our offense. That's not the key anymore. If Seth had gone for 40 tonight no one would be crying for more post play. You guys are so freaking outcome based, which is why you will never ever be good coaches, and should let RMK do his job.

It's about the process and technique, not the outcome.

You keep saying "you guys" but I think you're just arguing with one guy.

[Schfourteenteen]

HA

I didnt have to watch until 5 minutes left

[thepostman]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

Exactly...

You guys know what happened when Austin and Tyler were on the floor?

They were pulled out to guard Travis and Chavis and would get schooled, and then there's no one in the paint to help out.

Just because Alex got 40/20 against them doesnt mean he didnt give up buckets on the defensive end. He was just a versatile post presence who was the key to our offense. That's not the key anymore. If Seth had gone for 40 tonight no one would be crying for more post play. You guys are so freaking outcome based, which is why you will never ever be good coaches, and should let RMK do his job.

It's about the process and technique, not the outcome.

You keep saying "you guys" but I think you're just arguing with one guy.

yeah, i was thinking the same thing

most of all know this and agree...the last 2 games have just made it clear how important Jesse is to this team...thats about all the last 2 games have shown

[WWJFD]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

Exactly...

You guys know what happened when Austin and Tyler were on the floor?

They were pulled out to guard Travis and Chavis and would get schooled, and then there's no one in the paint to help out.

Just because Alex got 40/20 against them doesnt mean he didnt give up buckets on the defensive end. He was just a versatile post presence who was the key to our offense. That's not the key anymore. If Seth had gone for 40 tonight no one would be crying for more post play. You guys are so freaking outcome based, which is why you will never ever be good coaches, and should let RMK do his job.

It's about the process and technique, not the outcome.

You keep saying "you guys" but I think you're just arguing with one guy.

I guess I am the one guy. I thought this was a message board where we can express our opinions.. sorry luconn

[ToTheLeft]

LU lacked the set up guy again tonight more than they missed any inside presence- I don't care what any big guy like McLean did in previous years- it's irrelevant to how THIS game was played tonight..

Seriously??? You have to remember that with VMI they can force the big guy to guard the perimeter & pull the bigs out of the paint- or you give up easy 3s + the bigs don't help you agains the press that VMI throws at you combined with the fact the big guys don't typically run the court well in transition and add in the long rebounding opportunities due to long shots where size doesn't matter, so you're not gonna convince me that a post presence would have made the difference this game- that's just looking at one stat & not the whole picture.. when VMI is shooting the way they did tonight- even if you take away the points in the paint completely then LU still loses by 12 or more..

Exactly...

You guys know what happened when Austin and Tyler were on the floor?

They were pulled out to guard Travis and Chavis and would get schooled, and then there's no one in the paint to help out.

Just because Alex got 40/20 against them doesnt mean he didnt give up buckets on the defensive end. He was just a versatile post presence who was the key to our offense. That's not the key anymore. If Seth had gone for 40 tonight no one would be crying for more post play. You guys are so freaking outcome based, which is why you will never ever be good coaches, and should let RMK do his job.

It's about the process and technique, not the outcome.

Sorry, coach

Says the guy ripping on our coach?

Please.

@LUConn: I guess so. I mean, troy is kinda in the same boat, and I'm sure there's others out there.

[Schfourteenteen]

You keep saying "you guys" but I think you're just arguing with one guy.

I will join WWJFD's side so that TTL can correctly rant "you guys."