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FlameNForestI can't believe that we have been in this conference for 20 years now. I agree with TallyW that he is probably not happy to be in the BSC but can't say it publically. I would think that in the back of his mind that he feels that it is an embarrassment to the athletic department to be in the BSC. It is hard to believe all the college programs that have past us by in moving their way up to better conferences and a higher level.
I hope Barber works real hard while he's here to get LU out of this entry-level, stepping-stone conference. The BSC was fine when we first moved up from DII and the Mason-Dixon conference. But we're going on 20 years now and the BSC is still a bottom-feeder.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
The Big South gets biggerhttp://newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellit ... th=!sports
By Chris Lang
Lynchburg News & Advance
March 21, 2007
Big South commissioner Kyle Kallander, who generally speaks in nothing but positives in regards to his conference, acknowledged the line of questioning was valid.
Stony Brook? In the Big South? How does that even make sense?
"Is it a logical fit, geographically?" Kallander said Tuesday during a conference call announcing the addition of the Long Island school as a football playing member beginning in 2008. "Maybe not as much as you'd like."
The only thing Stony Brook is "South" of is Connecticut. So why the odd move in conference membership?
It's simple, really.
It's all about the automatic bid, or at least the chance to gain one.
For a conference to be eligible to receive an automatic berth to the NCAA Football Championship Series (formerly Division I-AA) playoffs, it has to have at least six Division I football-playing members that play together for at least two years.
Presbyterian College joined the Big South last spring but is not eligible for full Division I membership until 2011. That meant the Big South wouldn't have been in the auto-bid mix until 2013.
Since Stony Brook, which competed in the Northeast Conference last season and will play as an independent in 2007, is already a Division I member (and immediately eligible to compete for the Big South title), the school's inclusion in the conference pushes the Big South auto-bid timeline up three years.
In 2010, the league will be eligible for an automatic bid. Whether the Big South gets one is still to be determined. The champions of eight leagues currently earn automatic invites - CAA, Gateway, Southern, Big Sky, Southland, MEAC, Patriot and Ohio Valley.
"It's not a sure thing," Kallander said. "There will be more conferences eligible than there will be automatic bids. We're confident that we'll be one of the top eight if there are still more conferences than bids."
The Big South made great strides in that direction this season. The conference ranked seventh in the GPI, an RPI-style power index used to rate FCS teams. That put the Big South ahead of four auto-bid leagues (OVC, Southland, Patriot, MEAC). Coastal Carolina earned a bid to the FCS playoffs and lost to eventual national champion Appalachian State in the first round.
The Stony Brook Seawolves went 5-6 last season, 5-2 in the improved Northeast Conference. They beat Albany, which won at FCS power Delaware, and lost by three to Central Connecticut State, which won at Georgia Southern.
The school is making "dramatic increases" in its athletics budget, Stony Brook athletics director Jim Fiore said. It plans on being at the full FCS allotment of 63 scholarships by the 2011 season. Next season, the school will offer 40 scholarships.
Stony Brook left the Northeast because the conference limits its schools to 30 scholarships. That's an improvement over what it used to allow. Before last season, Northeast schools only offered need-based aid, much like Patriot League and Ivy League schools do.
To offset the increase, scholarships will be added to existing women's sports at Stony Brook.
Stony Brook, which has been a Division I member since 1999, signed a four-year associate membership deal with the conference, but there is a buyout in the contract if the school wishes to leave before then, Kallander said.
Kallander said the conference is still eyeing more football members. Albany was rumored to be part of the current expansion, but the Great Danes elected not to increase scholarships at this time.
"I sense that Kyle is really trying to move the conference forward," Liberty coach Danny Rocco said. "I think he shares the vision of making this one of the most formidable conferences in (FCS)."
"I sense that Kyle is really trying to move the conference forward," Liberty coach Danny Rocco said. "I think he shares the vision of making this one of the most formidable conferences in (FCS)."
JLFJR wrote:Thanks for your input, PA! Very helpful.
Stevev wrote:I was just agreeing with one of our new member's comments concerning the BSC. I guess you are not going to get all over him too.That wouldn't be a good way to treat a new member
TallyW wrote:I have to agree with Steve here... Although in fairness to KG, their are shots being called from the AD's office now, not the mansion... Dr. Falwell was our AD for a very long timeLet's look at the record with KG in leadership...