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By R i
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#513672
So instead of "the man behind the two biggest Liberty football wins ever"

He is 1-1 as a Starter and didn't take a snap as QB in Liberty's solo playoff victory
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By LUnpretty11
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LUnpretty11 wrote:I'm still confused by people on here questioning Masha's talent/capabilities.

Player Comp-Att-INT YDS TDS
R-So BROWN, Mike 17-22-0 338 4 vs. St. Francis W 52-7
R-So BROWN, Mike 24-38-3 276 2 vs. Ball State W 27-23
R-Fr MASHA, Stephon 21-32-3 238 4 vs. Chuck South L 36-38
R-Fr MASHA, Stephon 20-33-1 285 1 vs. #1/2 CCU W 15-14

I guarantee there will be people who will call for Masha to be pulled if he has 3+ turnovers against VT come Sept 3. Let me remind you of Mike Brown vs. NC State
R-Jr BROWN, Mike 22-39-3 279 1 + 4 fumbles and 3 lost

I am pumped we have talented Fr coming in this summer. The QB position is going to be stout for a while as long as these guys don't transfer out.

However, I have all the confidence in the world in Masha until he proves us wrong. That won't happen unless the wheels come undone against the likes of Jacksonville, JSU, SMU and RMU. Until then, we have a R-Jr Captain QB. The fact he was named a Captain speaks volumes of his talent and ability to make those around him better.

With that said, I can't wait to see what Masha can do in Blacksburg in 6.5 weeks.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Get over it.

Also, it amazes me that people on this board completely overlook Yearick like he is some scrub. He is deserving every bit as much hype as Calvert. They are both true Frosh, so they are the same with the same level of potential. If anything, Yearick has a leg up on Calvert because he enrolled early. You all need to get over 3 stars vs. 2 stars. It means nothing until it shows on the field.

Yearick loves Liberty and is thoroughly enjoying his experience so far. Things change, but I don't see him transferring.
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By R i
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#513678
Buck Shot can throw it 65 yards on a rope. Rud cannot, by all accounts.

Stars are Stars.
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By BJWilliams
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#513680
Post edited R i...thanks for clarifying
By olldflame
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#513681
LUnpretty11 wrote:
LUnpretty11 wrote:I'm still confused by people on here questioning Masha's talent/capabilities.

Player Comp-Att-INT YDS TDS
R-So BROWN, Mike 17-22-0 338 4 vs. St. Francis W 52-7
R-So BROWN, Mike 24-38-3 276 2 vs. Ball State W 27-23
R-Fr MASHA, Stephon 21-32-3 238 4 vs. Chuck South L 36-38
R-Fr MASHA, Stephon 20-33-1 285 1 vs. #1/2 CCU W 15-14

I guarantee there will be people who will call for Masha to be pulled if he has 3+ turnovers against VT come Sept 3. Let me remind you of Mike Brown vs. NC State
R-Jr BROWN, Mike 22-39-3 279 1 + 4 fumbles and 3 lost

I am pumped we have talented Fr coming in this summer. The QB position is going to be stout for a while as long as these guys don't transfer out.

However, I have all the confidence in the world in Masha until he proves us wrong. That won't happen unless the wheels come undone against the likes of Jacksonville, JSU, SMU and RMU. Until then, we have a R-Jr Captain QB. The fact he was named a Captain speaks volumes of his talent and ability to make those around him better.

With that said, I can't wait to see what Masha can do in Blacksburg in 6.5 weeks.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Get over it.

Also, it amazes me that people on this board completely overlook Yearick like he is some scrub. He is deserving every bit as much hype as Calvert. They are both true Frosh, so they are the same with the same level of potential. If anything, Yearick has a leg up on Calvert because he enrolled early. You all need to get over 3 stars vs. 2 stars. It means nothing until it shows on the field.

Yearick loves Liberty and is thoroughly enjoying his experience so far. Things change, but I don't see him transferring.
The only thing accurate you said about Yearick is the last part He demonstrated in the Spring that he is not ready to play QB at this level You have to be kidding me saying 2 players have the "same level of potential" simply because they are both true Freshmen To paraphrase a quote from Orwell's Animal Farm "All Freshman are equal, but some Freshmen are more equal than others"
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By FlamesHighontheTide
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I have heard that Gill has stated Masha is #1 QB no questions. For whatever that is worth, I believe Masha has put in the work and is putting the team first over everything else. He handled himself like a professional while having a good time and in my opinion seemed to be very genuine at the Big South Media Day.

I know forum's are for fun and we have ALOT of fun here which is credit to all of y'all on here. Nevertheless, Masha is the guy this year and those of you who doubt him, trust me as an alabama fan who doubted Jake Coker last year and you see what he did for the tide. Give the kid his shot and watch him do work! Unless an injury happens to Masha the only time calvert may get will be mop up duty if he doesn't redshirt, which is not always a bad thing.

I know someone gave their prediction earlier and so I will unveil mine.

Liberty takes the Big South Crown and finishes 8-3 with the 3 losses coming at the hands of Tech, Jack St. and the dreaded beach-chickens.
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By Cider Jim
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olldflame wrote:To paraphrase a quote from Orwell's Animal Farm "All Freshman are equal, but some Freshmen are more equal than others"
Study :clapping
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By Purple Haize
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Cider Jim wrote:
olldflame wrote:To paraphrase a quote from Orwell's Animal Farm "All Freshman are equal, but some Freshmen are more equal than others"
Study :clapping
I liked it better than 1984
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By BJWilliams
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R i wrote:Buck Shot can throw it 65 yards on a rope. Rud cannot, by all accounts.

Stars are Stars.
When would you ever need a low percentage throw like that outside of a hail mary? Now if he can hit a 9 yard post on third and 8 or find his checkdown to the back and turn a sack and possible negative play into a conversion or even a touchdown or drop a perfect fade into the bucket inside the 10 yard line...then I might change my tune...anyway we got one more week of talking and then it's what I call "money mouth time"
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By R i
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BJWilliams wrote:Post edited R i...thanks for clarifying

You still have it wrong. JMU in the playoffs was our biggest win , very easily. Woodrum Started.
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By LUnpretty11
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olldflame wrote:
LUnpretty11 wrote: Yes, I'm quoting myself. Get over it.

Also, it amazes me that people on this board completely overlook Yearick like he is some scrub. He is deserving every bit as much hype as Calvert. They are both true Frosh, so they are the same with the same level of potential. If anything, Yearick has a leg up on Calvert because he enrolled early. You all need to get over 3 stars vs. 2 stars. It means nothing until it shows on the field.

Yearick loves Liberty and is thoroughly enjoying his experience so far. Things change, but I don't see him transferring.
The only thing accurate you said about Yearick is the last part He demonstrated in the Spring that he is not ready to play QB at this level You have to be kidding me saying 2 players have the "same level of potential" simply because they are both true Freshmen To paraphrase a quote from Orwell's Animal Farm "All Freshman are equal, but some Freshmen are more equal than others"
When was the last time we ever had a true Fr. ready to start from day one? You're kidding yourself, or have never played/coached the position, if you are discounting Yearick's early enrolling doesn't help him have an advantage over Calvert.
Also, (I can't believe I'm saying this) I agree - to an extent - with Beej. I would much rather have someone who can tout his ability to read a defense and throw 10-25 yards with pinpointed accuracy than someone who "can throw a 65 yd bomb on a rope". If the latter has the former's ability as well, then great. But we won't know that for a while still. So yes, Yearick has a jump on Calvert because he was here 4 months sooner, practiced with the team and started learning the system.

Also also, you're kidding yourself if you're actually calling a true Fr., who hasn't stepped foot on the field yet, a "star". I was a star QB in high school too. I had a cannon. I also threw more TDs than Calvert our Sr. years of HS. I am also, not playing in the NFL.
By olldflame
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#513704
R i wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:Post edited R i...thanks for clarifying

You still have it wrong. JMU in the playoffs was our biggest win , very easily. Woodrum Started.
Not that "cut and dried" This is highly subject to debate Getting past Coastal and INTO the playoffs was the mountain we had been trying to climb for years and finally did, with Masha at QB JMU was a huge win in that it validated that we "belonged", but to some extent it was just frosting on the cake
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By LUnpretty11
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olldflame wrote: Not that "cut and dried" This is highly subject to debate Getting past Coastal and INTO the playoffs was the mountain we had been trying to climb for years and finally did, with Masha at QB JMU was a huge win in that it validated that we "belonged", but to some extent it was just frosting on the cake
I can agree with this argument, however, the Coastal win means FAR less if we don't beat JMU. Both are a valid argument to make.
By thepostman
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The JMU win was bigger because we were clearly the better team and looked like we belonged. We played like crap against coastal and snuck out with a win. I'm not say it wasn't a big win big the JMU win, in the playoffs, trumps the coastal win.
By Neo
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Revisionist history is always fun. Liberty trailed JMU 21-10 at halftime and trailed the entire 2nd half until scoring the go ahead touchdown in the final 3 minutes of the game. Yet, "we were clearly the better team."
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By BJWilliams
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#513715
Probably not...although I wonder if he picks up a walk on for the scout team offense or uses Spence Jones in that regard
By forbidden
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LUnpretty11 wrote:
olldflame wrote:
LUnpretty11 wrote: Yes, I'm quoting myself. Get over it.

Also, it amazes me that people on this board completely overlook Yearick like he is some scrub. He is deserving every bit as much hype as Calvert. They are both true Frosh, so they are the same with the same level of potential. If anything, Yearick has a leg up on Calvert because he enrolled early. You all need to get over 3 stars vs. 2 stars. It means nothing until it shows on the field.

Yearick loves Liberty and is thoroughly enjoying his experience so far. Things change, but I don't see him transferring.
The only thing accurate you said about Yearick is the last part He demonstrated in the Spring that he is not ready to play QB at this level You have to be kidding me saying 2 players have the "same level of potential" simply because they are both true Freshmen To paraphrase a quote from Orwell's Animal Farm "All Freshman are equal, but some Freshmen are more equal than others"
When was the last time we ever had a true Fr. ready to start from day one? You're kidding yourself, or have never played/coached the position, if you are discounting Yearick's early enrolling doesn't help him have an advantage over Calvert.
Also, (I can't believe I'm saying this) I agree - to an extent - with Beej. I would much rather have someone who can tout his ability to read a defense and throw 10-25 yards with pinpointed accuracy than someone who "can throw a 65 yd bomb on a rope". If the latter has the former's ability as well, then great. But we won't know that for a while still. So yes, Yearick has a jump on Calvert because he was here 4 months sooner, practiced with the team and started learning the system.

Also also, you're kidding yourself if you're actually calling a true Fr., who hasn't stepped foot on the field yet, a "star". I was a star QB in high school too. I had a cannon. I also threw more TDs than Calvert our Sr. years of HS. I am also, not playing in the NFL.

And I'll say your VERY delusional, in your thinking, and leave it at that
By forbidden
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BJWilliams wrote:
Jonathan Carone wrote:If he transfers because he didn't get time as a true freshman then, for the sake of the locker room, we'd beout tter off with him gone.
I agree. If he has the expectation to start from day 1 and transfers because that didn't happen (or fails to reach some arbitrary percentage he has in his head), we probably are better off.

I'm sure that they told him he will get to compete, but gave him measured expectations in the recruiting process...especially given that Masha is a captain for us and still is the man behind the biggest Liberty football win ever.

With that said, if Calvert wins at least the #2 spot, that puts the focus squarely on Yearick, who enrolled early. Does he stick it out and battle with Calvert for the next 3-4 springs, or does he pull up stakes and transfer?

Pls stop thinking because you are the team "captain" that has earned you something great. As was learned over last couple years the person holding that position last was maybe not the best regarded for that spot. Just have a feeling that the person there now will be a little different than the last.
By olldflame
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LUnpretty11 wrote:With Swanson gone, I am now questioning if Gill will be able to redshirt either Calvert or Yearick.
I don't believe Swanson was ever enough of a factor to make a bit of difference in any decision to redshirt Calvert or Yearick or not
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By Cider Jim
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Did I miss something--where did Swanson go? :dontgetit
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