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By PAmedic
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#107904
thanks to CHRIS for another good wrap- some points I found telling:
But overall, the passing game again received a "just average" grade from the coaching staff. Smith completed 11 of 17 passes for 170 yards, with 65 coming on that one play. Receivers Brandon Turner (four receptions, nine yards) and Dominic Bolden (one catch, 12 yards), and tight end Chris Luck (one catch, seven yards) barely registered in the offense.
WHY? Are we purposely NOT game planning him in? Is #13 just not picking him up ? I have to believe the kid is getting open once in a while.
"I don't know how well I can define my frustration," Rocco said. "It's a combination of things. There were a couple of plays where we didn't have sound protection. There were a couple of plays where I didn't feel like routes were run at the proper depth or with the proper precision in which they needed to be run. And Brock was inconsistent."

:banghead

Streeter needs to find something to get this guy on track, the 2 practice games are over and its GO TIME now.
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By BJWilliams
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thepostman wrote:The offense looked better in the first half then they did all of last week. That was a bonus...but then they reverted to their old ways in the second half. The defense didn't play nearly as good as they did last week...Wynton saved us last night with his speed, but we need our offense to be consistent and our defense just seemed to lack focus at points last night...overall, not bad...but as someone said we are suppose to going from good to great, not good to good...next week we are playing an improved William and Mary team...not a great one, but an improved one. Should be interesting, that is for sure.

As for the band issue. That band sounds good when they play. They sounded good at halftime and all of that. They just need to play more often. The shirt thing is a little annoying, but not the biggest deal in the world...

I was sitting with my brother last night and we were talking about the high school band in little Titusville, FL is bigger then the band we have here at Division I Liberty University. That is what I find most unacceptable, the size of our band. I don't know the reasoning behind that, or if it is simply because thats all they can find...but it would be nice to have a larger band that has the size of a Division I school...I suppose that will come in time...

I really don't think the band sucks nearly as bad as some people think on this board...they need some improvements...that is for sure...but I have heard much, much, much worse.....
It really goes back to all the way back before Dr Kerr became the director (which if Im correct based on what someone told me that was in teh band that far back, the guy who was the director quit and Dr Kerr as the assistant band director ended up taking on the role. The band took a dive for a few years and started building back up about the time I signed on in 2003 and really started growing in 2005 and 2006 when they did some aggressive recruiting during the wind ensemble spring tour and we had a huge increase after the 2007 spring tour and spring CFAWs
By Stevev
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It is not good to know that we are planning on Rashaad to spark the offense. This lackluster performance is happening within the context of division 2 competition (The team we played yesterday was probably a little above average and last week we played a bad division 2 team based on results I am seeing). I coud see a dropoff if we played good 1AA teams but that is not the case. Maybe it is a case of playing to the level of competition or saving our best gameplan for William & Mary and Elon, I just don't know. I was certainly hoping to get more playing time out of the 2nd and 3rd level offense and defense but that didn't happen. The offense has some serious issues here and it is not all on Brock.

On defense, not too much to critique, but I would like to see more red zone stops. The opposition is 4 for 4 in red zone chances but we do a great job preventing teams from getting their in the first place. It looks like when teams do get in the red zone they get in and that could be a problem. Not as many tackles for Vince Redd this time, Is he being double teamed or what. Kent Hicks with 10 tackles, nice job.

Who knows LU might not have as many "bid play" chances against legitimate competition and if that is the case we are in trouble. In the next 2 weeks we are going to know where we stand as a program and all I can say is that I am not completely sold on this team based on their first 2 games, yet!!!!
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By PAmedic
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I have to agree with the normally pessamistic STEVEV on this one.

Also, the time of possession issue was brought up - and I seem to recall (didn't bother looking but someone else can) that we had the same issue last week. I remember being surprised to look at the stats SLY posted when I noticed Tusculum had held the ball longer than we had.

Also, we're allowing our opponants nearly as many first downs as WE attain- also not good. Brings to mind that horrendous "prevent defense" many teams go to in the final two minutes. WHICH I DESPISE.

bend but don't break :furious :frustrated

time to look forward, as Coach Rocco has 5 days to smack someone (or lots of someones) upside the head before hitting the road.
By SuperJon
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#107917
Vince didn't have as many tackles because they didn't run to him and SRL's side the entire night.
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By Fumblerooskies
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I haven't read most of the posts about the game...but I thought on one particular series (other than the opening drive), the offense and passing game really clicked. On that drive, Brock showed a lot of touch and poise on 12-15 yard passes right up the middle. The O moved the ball that drive, but did not go back to that the entire rest of the game.
By Chris Lang
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#107922
He did have Luck on one other play, but the defensive back was called for P.I. Still, that would have only put him at two catches.
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By jcmanson
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I think some of us are being too hard on our offense. I will be the first to admit that we need to play better from start to finish from here on out for us to become "great" this season, and we have struggled so far this year. BUT last night our offense looked pretty good in the first half. The first drive was very good, we dominated. In the 2nd quarter we played very well, and Brock looked good. The second half is when our offense didn't show up period. I think that has alot to do with the guys looking forward to next week. I don't like that attitude, but these guys are in college and it's hard not to think like that. I think they will bring their A game next week. That doesn't mean we will win, but we will be in a position to win.

The team as a whole was lackluster in both of our games, but I think this has more to do with our competition than it does with how "good" we are. I may be wrong on this, but this is what I think.

As far as Vince not having as many tackles, like Jon said, they didn't go to his side and he was constantly being double teamed. It's amazing he made as many plays as he did. He really aggravated the qb, because he had a hard time seeing over him. In essence, Vince took that side of the field away from him being able to throw to.
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By BJWilliams
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I actually would have to agree that the offense has a lot of issues...here's hoping (I say hoping) that with Rashad coming back for W&M that the running game can really open things up and Brock get better at hitting his short and intermediate receivers otherwise we could see a fate not exactly like VMI but very similar. As a side note, I was standing down on the sidelines with the front percussion during last couple touchdowns for LU in the first half and I broke out in my practice announcing. I actually managed to really entertain the chain gang on the sidelines (and some of the fans in the student section on that end of the field where the percussion was set up). They really liked how I sounded (now if I can just translate that to radio)
By Ed Dantes
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Anyone have game pics from last night? Those of us outside lynchburg would like to see the crowd -- and the jumbotron.
By Rocketfan
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jcmanson wrote:I think some of us are being too hard on our offense. I will be the first to admit that we need to play better from start to finish from here on out for us to become "great" this season, and we have struggled so far this year. BUT last night our offense looked pretty good in the first half. The first drive was very good, we dominated. In the 2nd quarter we played very well, and Brock looked good. The second half is when our offense didn't show up period. I think that has alot to do with the guys looking forward to next week. I don't like that attitude, but these guys are in college and it's hard not to think like that. I think they will bring their A game next week. That doesn't mean we will win, but we will be in a position to win.

The team as a whole was lackluster in both of our games, but I think this has more to do with our competition than it does with how "good" we are. I may be wrong on this, but this is what I think.

As far as Vince not having as many tackles, like Jon said, they didn't go to his side and he was constantly being double teamed. It's amazing he made as many plays as he did. He really aggravated the qb, because he had a hard time seeing over him. In essence, Vince took that side of the field away from him being able to throw to.
Sorry i gotta disagree on this one, i dont think we are being half as hard as the coaches. I had a sideline perspective yesterday and could hear coaches yelling " where is your pride, where is your heart" , we aren't questioning that far yet but the coaches reached that point late in the third quarter in regards to the offense. Brock even was screaming on the sideline for guys to step it up, and asking "whats it gonna take to get a drive going" . So im not sure if blocking assignments were being missed or not but quite obviously we weren't playing inspired and everyone wasn't on the same page.
By SuperJon
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The absolute, by-far most embarrassing thing about last night happened in the 3rd quarter. An RA came over, in the middle of play (not a time out, not half time, not in between quarters, but in the middle of play) and wrote a kid up for being out of hair code. Some girls told us that an RA came up to them earlier in the night and warned them for dancing. We've got d-----bag RA's getting on power trips during football games. Way to go guys.
By Stevev
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#107945
Someone aught to tell that freakin RA to go take a hike.
By bucksweepjax
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#107948
Sounds like a few we had back in the Fundy days.
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By flameshaw
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#107950
Ever heard of water boarding? Maybe a necktie party, or a brick bat. :lol:
By thesportscritic
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SuperJon wrote:The absolute, by-far most embarrassing thing about last night happened in the 3rd quarter. An RA came over, in the middle of play (not a time out, not half time, not in between quarters, but in the middle of play) and wrote a kid up for being out of hair code. Some girls told us that an RA came up to them earlier in the night and warned them for dancing. We've got d-----bag RA's getting on power trips during football games. Way to go guys.
what a moron. the RA that is.
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By PAmedic
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so help me, if that EVER happens to me when I'm down there- there will be an issue. Then again, maybe I don't really strike anyone as a Liberty student :D

there's a time and a place for monitoring minor Liberty Way compliance issues- and that is NOT either.

not to mention the fact that the genius needs to take into consideration that, in big crowd situations like sporting events- 8k or more people there DON'T ATTEND THE INSTITUTION. Sounds like the AD needs to send his guy Bob to the next RA meeting and warn them to chill out.
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By Fumblerooskies
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I would LOVE for something like that to happen with a student while I was around. As a faculty member, I would think it would be within my right to tell an overzealous RA that he's being....
...a r.a.
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By El Scorcho
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#107962
Who's in charge of the RA's these days?

And I mean at the top, not the RD's.
By krh44
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#107963
Ed Dantes wrote:Anyone have game pics from last night? Those of us outside lynchburg would like to see the crowd -- and the jumbotron.

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2ns one from top is Zach crossing the goal line - not sure what happened on the bottom one
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By SuperJon
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#107964
The kid tried to write up another guy who was there but the guy said he was just a worker at the school, not a student.

I almost went and "interviewed" him to ask him why he didn't write up every guy with their shirt off but figured he was the type to write me up for being disrespectful.
By krh44
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#107965
Just watched the first half on tape and have mixed emotions. Jackson could have had another big play but good defense/Pass Int. - depending on who your cheering for. Landis had a guy wide open but overthrew him. Offense needs to get more creative getting Terrell the ball other than running right up the middle. #28 from SBurg GOT JACKED UP on Jackson's punt retrun for a TD, looked like it was Calvary with the hit. Teams do play down to competition but if Calvary doesn't score on that intereception the game could have been closer than it was.
By SuperJon
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#107966
krh44 wrote:Offense needs to get more creative getting Terrell the ball other than running right up the middle.
You hafta remember that we haven't opened up the playbook for those "creative" plays yet because we didn't want to show anything to teams down the line.
By krh44
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#107967
SuperJon wrote:
krh44 wrote:Offense needs to get more creative getting Terrell the ball other than running right up the middle.
You hafta remember that we haven't opened up the playbook for those "creative" plays yet because we didn't want to show anything to teams down the line.

Kind of like when Karcher didn't play Terrell until the UCONN game because he thought he was going to actually give us a chance in that game
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By BJWilliams
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#107968
I liked the play that Terrell got the first TD on...a nice misdirection/stretch play off left side...they ought to try more plays similar to that...or even take advantage of the speed of guys like Turner and Jackson and run some reverses and end arounds and what not
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