[ALAFlamesFan]

This all comes down to mental toughness at this point. Not strategy, not skills, it is all in the head. We need to learn to get our heads right. Every practice. Every game. Time to put a sports psychologist on staff.

[bluejacket]

I remember a few years ago, only a few us on here saw the culture problem. Thankfully, most see it now. I have no idea what the overarching answer is, but at least we're all finally on board with the problem. The university could at least start by not pumping these kids full of their own ego. For craps sake they play at a FCS university (not a college) that is giving them an FBS experience; something most of them would have never dreamed of until they came here. This isn't JUCO. I at least expect effort and improvement, not entitlement and prone to bouts of mediocrity.

We aren't #FBSReady. We haven't arrived...*sigh*.

And for the record...I'm still a believer in Gill...I'm just trying to figure out for how many more games/seasons. Hopefully, he'll right the ship.

The problem is not that the players are "full of their own ego." That happens everywhere.

The problem is that there is no accountability when these losses happen.

[SuperJon]

Jeff's silence during and after last night's game is a little telling. He tweets all the time and even he isn't faking it after last night's game.

[TH Spangler]

These ups and downs happen to the best, not just us ..... one example.
http://www.texassports.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

If we can get by Charleston Southern on the road we can win out. I look for GW to lose to either Coastal or CSU.

[Liberty22]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Bye

But don't come back when we're winning. We don't need more band wagon fans. Yesterday was frustrating as heck but if that's your response, don't let the door hit ya

[Kricket]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Sounds like a real die hard fan to me...

All of you people who post FBSready after every loss are just as annoying. Teams win and lose, that's the point of sports. I think you all may be overestimating how good a team has to be to play FBS ball. Since we beat the last two Sun Belt teams we played, I'd say being "FBSready" isn't a question when you consider who's made the jump recently.

Being a conservative Christian school, we need to be much better than the Coastals or Georgia States of the world to get the "yes" votes we need, and I think that's where a lot of the fan frustration comes from, because we aren't better right now. That doesn't mean we won't get there, but some of you have the attitude that you claim the players have. You act like everything should just fall into place without prolonged periods of adversity.

I believe we will get there, but it takes time and continued support from many fans, even after losses like this. That's the grind it out mentality we need along with the players. I'm not saying being upset after a terrible loss is bad in any way. I'm simply suggesting that mocking the program for saying we're "FBSready" or threatening to leave the fan base does the opposite of getting us where we all want to go.

Learn from this game, rub some dirt on the loss, and win out. Should be easy to take seriously now, because every game is a playoff game.

[SuperJon]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Bye

But don't come back when we're winning. We don't need more band wagon fans. Yesterday was frustrating as heck but if that's your response, don't let the door hit ya

Yes we do. We need any fan we can get. We bag on Coastal for not having any fans but they'd love to have an extra 10,000 bandwagon fans.

[LUDad]

[/quote]

Should have gone for it 4th and 12 on the next to last possession. The FG does you no good, even if you make it. If you don't, there is no difference in field position.[/quote]

I thought the same thing. Your down there, you may not get another shot at a TD. However, I think Gill's reasoning was solid if we had executed. GW has a good FG kicker. He waned the points so that if GW drove far enough for a FG we would still have the ball last with a chance to still tie the game.

[Kricket]

Bye

But don't come back when we're winning. We don't need more band wagon fans. Yesterday was frustrating as heck but if that's your response, don't let the door hit ya

Yes we do. We need any fan we can get. We bag on Coastal for not having any fans but they'd love to have an extra 10,000 bandwagon fans.

Absolutely agree with this.

[forbidden]

How are 3 missed field goals on the coaches?

Not adjusting to a field goal kicker who was 7/12 coming into the game.

How are dropped passes on the coaches?

It's been a problem for three years. At some point, the guys getting paid a bunch of money are responsible when their players continue to make the same mistakes.

A kick returner who prefers to fall down as opposed to run could be on the coaching staff.

Again, it's been going on for three years. Parker has has one great return and 2.5 years of bad decisions.

At what point do trends that happen every single week begin to get blamed on the people leading the program?

Hate to inform u but my lil cousin even tho is a junior was only on field last year, get facts str8 still no excuse but when he returned the punt you weren't in your feelings about him then were you. And trust me I know you are only as good as your last performance. Just happened at the wrong time.

[SuperJon]

I may have been wrong about the amount of time he's been returning kicks, but he's been shaky at best for as long as he's been doing it.

[SuperJon]

Gill's daughter is spouting off on Twitter that McCray admitted he was at our game at Georgia State. Is there any proof of that? It's a big accusation so I hope she can back it up.

[forbidden]

Not denying that fact at all. Even shaq hit a free throw every now and then, lol

[forbidden]

So what if he was there, it's common knowledge to any decent coach that if you have a qb that is mobile, if utilized correctly he can cause LU fits. The blueprint was out out there way before McCray had a bye to go see LU play.

[olldflame]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Hopefully your ¨new team¨ never frustrates or disappoints you.

[flameshaw]

So, I guess when we lost to Presby several years ago to miss the playoffs, it was due to the players feeling entitled because we were FBS ready, great facilities, cost of attendance, etc. ? Oh wait..... that was waaaaay before we made the announcement we were going to pursue FBS, expanded the stadium,etc.

It wasn't the same things as now but it was definitely not taking the opponent seriously and thinking we were better than them.

How is it any different? We lost a conference game we should have won fairly easy. Does the fact we now have a nicer stadium and more money make a difference? LOL Maybe we can get the conference to change the rules and have 3 possible outcomes to a game W=win L=loss E= entitled. smh.

[flameshaw]

This all comes down to mental toughness at this point. Not strategy, not skills, it is all in the head. We need to learn to get our heads right. Every practice. Every game. Time to put a sports psychologist on staff.

I like the way you think........................ except for the psychologist part.

[flameshaw]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Sounds like a real die hard fan to me...

All of you people who post FBSready after every loss are just as annoying. Teams win and lose, that's the point of sports. I think you all may be overestimating how good a team has to be to play FBS ball. Since we beat the last two Sun Belt teams we played, I'd say being "FBSready" isn't a question when you consider who's made the jump recently.

Being a conservative Christian school, we need to be much better than the Coastals or Georgia States of the world to get the "yes" votes we need, and I think that's where a lot of the fan frustration comes from, because we aren't better right now. That doesn't mean we won't get there, but some of you have the attitude that you claim the players have. You act like everything should just fall into place without prolonged periods of adversity.

I believe we will get there, but it takes time and continued support from many fans, even after losses like this. That's the grind it out mentality we need along with the players. I'm not saying being upset after a terrible loss is bad in any way. I'm simply suggesting that mocking the program for saying we're "FBSready" or threatening to leave the fan base does the opposite of getting us where we all want to go.

Learn from this game, rub some dirt on the loss, and win out. Should be easy to take seriously now, because every game is a playoff game.

Good post.

[Purple Haize]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Hopefully your ¨new team¨ never frustrates or disappoints you.

He's still a newb and wasn't subjected to Decades of frustration

[Cider Jim]

...McCray admitted he was at our game at Georgia State.

Super, isn't it a coach's job to scout out his opponent?

[LUDad]

I've been thinking it for the past two weeks and this game pretty much sealed the deal. I'm pretty much done with Liberty football. I'll be starting at a new school next year when I leave the military so I'm gonna focus my energy on seeing that program improve. I think I'll just forget about LU football until they have a season where they're like 5-1 with that 1 loss being an understandable close one to a powerhouse team and then I'll follow the rest of that season to see if they actually make it to the big stage. And this is all coming from a die hard fan who was in the marching band during the Rashad Jennings/ Rocco era.

Hopefully your ¨new team¨ never frustrates or disappoints you.

GW may have had twice as many fans at game than us, but hey, that was their homecoming game. Rain coming down, making more noise than opposte side of the field. Staying to the end, still hoping & praying. No bandwagon there.

[flamesfilmguy]

I am still angry about this game. What I find humorous is that all the people calling me a hater and a pessimist for "living in the past" are now silent. like Jon said earlier. this is a culture issue. and I won't apologize for living in the past when the past keeps repeating itself. Still waiting on an Ri bashing of my fandom since he can't serve me crow.

[SuperJon]

...McCray admitted he was at our game at Georgia State.

Super, isn't it a coach's job to scout out his opponent?

It feels like the coach's daughter whining and making excuses on Twitter, but technically coaches aren't allowed to attend games they aren't involved in to scout.

[jack_sparrow81]

Didn't think it was rule after it was mentioned but just checked and I guess it is: NCAA bylaw 11.6.1, which prohibits “off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents.” That bylaw has been on the books since 1994. I'm not sure what the difference or the advantage is between live scouting and watching tape.

http://gwu-today.com/?p=1541 here is the link where it is confirmed that he was there.

Regardless, we can't blame the loss on this.

[flamesfilmguy]

Didn't think it was rule after it was mentioned but just checked and I guess it is: NCAA bylaw 11.6.1, which prohibits “off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents.” That bylaw has been on the books since 1994. I'm not sure what the difference or the advantage is between live scouting and watch tape. Regardless, we can't blame the loss on this.

there isn't much of a benefit to it. He would have had access to that game film as early as midnight that night.