[SuperJon]

Ok, I've had a ton of people complaining to me about this so I thought I would throw it out on here. We all know the athletic department reads this message board so this could be as good as an e-mail.

For those that don't know, the Student Flames Club recruited a ton of kids this summer by telling them things that really didn't happen (a bus trip to Wake Forest, a good way to meet people, etc). There are around 550 members or so but maybe 50-75 are truly active at games and such.

The SFC ropes off about 10 rows at games for the members of the club. Part of the benefits of joining the group were that they got priority seating. I think this is a great thing.

For a student "pep club" (even though it's nothing of the sort), members should be there before kickoff. If not, they shouldn't have their seats reserved. I mentioned this to one of the leaders this morning and he even agreed with me. Once the game started there were 7 rows that were empty between the SFC and the rest of the students. We wanted everyone else to fill in because it would look better and it would sound better. We (SFC members) all wanted this.

Once those people moved down, the ROTC and LUPD threatened to kick those students who moved out of the game because someone at the head of the SFC wouldn't okay the students moving down. The thing is, once those students moved into the section, someone took the seats they had originally so when they were told to move, they had nowhere to go but the top of the bleachers.

Do we really want to treat the passionate fans that will get to the game an hour early by sending them to the top of the bleachers? That's a joke. About 75% of the SFC was going to leave with our fellow students if they got kicked out of the game. I'm sure Jerry would've loved seeing that.

It's one thing to reserve seats before the game for a "pep club" but once the game kicks off those seats should be open to anyone who wants tem. A "pep club" should have enough pride in their team that they get to the game before it starts.

I'm sure TDDance will have more to say about this later because he's one of the people that got there over an hour early (hour and 15 minutes in his case) that almost got kicked out. This is ridiculous. The students are actually excited and they are nearly ejected from the game for trying to sit near the field. That's just dumb.

[TDDance234]

It was absolute bologna.

I stood out there for an hour and fifteen minutes before anyone else got there and was already 10 rows back but when the game started and there were atleast seven rows of empty seats and I couldn't move down -- it was absurd.

And then when we did, we were threatened by LUPD and Event Staff that if we didn't move, we'd be escorted out. But of course, everyone else moved down to fill the rows we vacated. So, where do I go? To the very top of the stadium. Eventually, we squeezed in once they got rid of the ropes.

The SFC is a joke. The program flopped. Move on.

[SuperJon]

There were two other things that we didn't mention:

1) A good amount of the people that moved down were with their parents who were alum or something like that and wanting to sit in the student section. LUPD were going to kick out parents.

2) There were plenty of SFC members there before the game, they just didn't want to sit in our section because they didn't know any of the club members.

[SuperJon]

The SFC is a joke. The program flopped. Move on.

I just saw that line. Haven't heard that one before...

[thesportscritic]

The SFC and LUPD oughta be ashamed of themselves That is just pitiful

[SuperJon]

Not the SFC. We wanted the students closer to us. It was all on leadership. Which one of leadership I don't know. None of the SFC leadership sits in the SFC section.

[thesportscritic]

Not the SFC. We wanted the students closer to us. It was all on leadership. Which one of leadership I don't know. None of the SFC leadership sits in the SFC section.

interesting.

[PeterParker]

Authoritarianism at its best. And the mountain wonders why there is low morale among students and alumni. Control for control sake...awesome.

SuperJon wrote:

Not the SFC. We wanted the students closer to us. It was all on leadership. Which one of leadership I don't know. None of the SFC leadership sits in the SFC section.

Oh, and that's always a great sign of leadership...leading from behind.

[PAmedic]

sorry, Bob- but that ain't "Good" (groan )
a picture (or 2) is worth a thousand words :

[SuperJon]

I saw about 6 girls sitting out in front of it at one point.

[TDDance234]

During the parade, yes.

[SuperJon]

I know a couple people who got some food from there. I think it was after we went to the stadium though.

[TDDance234]

A buddy of mine said they gave away sandwhiches by the handfull they had so many left over from Chic-Fil-A.

It's pathetic when you can't even give away food (a catered meal, at that) to entice broke college students, who eat at the Rot 7 days a week, to partake in a club.

[LU'sbestmanager]

my girlgfriend and 2 of my friends sat in the section with me, with no problems

[SuperJon]

As a leadership team, we have realized that on game day, everyone desires to spend time with their friends and even if you are in the SFC, you would much rather sit with them as opposed to your own section, so: From now on, the SFC section will open to everyone with five minutes left in the first quarter. We encourage you to come on down, get yourself some seats, and when the time comes, call your friends and have them join you. We want you to have the best seats, because after all.....that's what you paid for.

That's complete horse crap, and that's not the term I wanted to use. A "booster club" (because we're calling it what it should be) should get to the game before the game starts and if not, their seats should open up. They shouldn't be given until ten minutes into the game (roughly 30 minutes real time) to get to the game. That's about as gay as it gets.

[flameshaw]

As a leadership team, we have realized that on game day, everyone desires to spend time with their friends and even if you are in the SFC, you would much rather sit with them as opposed to your own section, so: From now on, the SFC section will open to everyone with five minutes left in the first quarter. We encourage you to come on down, get yourself some seats, and when the time comes, call your friends and have them join you. We want you to have the best seats, because after all.....that's what you paid for.

That's complete horse crap, and that's not the term I wanted to use. A "booster club" (because we're calling it what it should be) should get to the game before the game starts and if not, their seats should open up. They shouldn't be given until ten minutes into the game (roughly 30 minutes real time) to get to the game. That's about as gay as it gets.

How do you really feel SuperJon?

[SuperJon]

You've heard how I really feel.

[PAmedic]

so what they're saying is- "we can't fill the SFC section, but rather than give up our control (power trip), we're gonna make everyone else WAIT to use it until we yell RED ROVER, RED ROVER, all regular (non-important) students come over"

how about spending some time and energy building the SFC into something kids WANT to participate in- maybe then they'll SIT IN THE ASSIGNED SECTION and you won't have to figure out some cockamamie scheme to fill it up?

if not- return it to open seating and allow the true fans to use it

[SuperJon]

The leaders don't even sit in the section. I saw pictures from the last game and one of the leaders was sitting on the other side of the band.