Ok, We always talk about not sipping the cool aid on this board so I figured I would share my Jim Jones like experience in the world of John Madden. Apparently there is this underground society of nerds geeks and flat out cheaters that run around online creating fake user names, cloning those names and padding their stats by playing against themselves with 2 different PS2's hooked up. I was actually recruited by this guy last night that I was gonna play. He asked me to put on my headset so he could talk with me. He explained to me how there are thousands of guys out there with high rankings but that it is all artificial. This year they have clubs and the #1 club at the end of the football year will get to go to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii. This guy is the commissioner of the #1 ranked club in the online world! I went to the leaderboards and sure enough, this guy, his club and everything else was as he said it was. The clubs ranked 2-8 or so are all filled with artificial stats and cheaters and EA Sports is about to delete them! There are 1000's of guys trying to get into this #1 club because they are so far ahead. He won't let most join because there are cyber terrorists out there that will join your club, throw a bunch of games in a row by quitting or just out right losing in order to bring your club down. I was blown away by all of this because I just play for fun and I don't try to get ranked or anything. I am 43-12 and I had 4 losses from those "clone" guys but I didn't know it at the time. Now I have a secret telephone number that this guy gave me directly to EA Sports and they will fix my record when that happens again and delete the player that cheated. The guy asked me to join and I eventually did but I had to ask was it like the Mob. Can I get out if I want or am I in for life

He assured me I could quit. He only asked that I be careful not to play guys from those cheating clubs and that I win 50% of my games. That second part is easy because I usually win about 75% (I am at around 84% right now). But now I have to check guys'affiliation and stats before I can play a game! I am ranked in the top 3000 right now but this guy tells me that there are about 2000 high ranked guys out there that are cheaters. I don't know if I can handle the pressure but if I stick it out, I could be going to Hawaii in Feb. I will probably quit before then though. As I said, I just like to play for fun and when it gets this serious, I want no part of it. We will see how it goes.