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By ATrain
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Alright, so what can we expect from our new President-elect on key issues, such as:
Abortion
Affirmative Action
Budget Defecit
Cuba
Dollar Strength
Economics
Education
Foreign Trade
Gay Marriage
Health Care
Iran
North Korea
Pakistan
Support for Israel
Venezuela
War in Iraq
War in Afghanistan

Obviously, some answers are more obvious than others...Discuss
By TDDance234
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I was contemplating starting a thread along this line...I think these things will happen or begin to happen within his first few months in office.

1. Obama will repeal the Patriot Act.
2. Begin to setup the complete withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
3. Push hard for the Fairness Doctrine.

and...

4. Create a BCS Playoff System. :)
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By PastorZack
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I can see the gay marriage being removed from state control. I also think that he'll start to try to roll back the 01 tax cuts first and then implement the rest of his social policies...he can't do that without the tax rollback. The tax rollback and the decrease in defense spending is where he will probably start.
By ALUmnus
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Early on I think increased welfare benefits, and his biggest initiative will be towards education. Our kids are going to start learning less and become even more naive. The tax increases will probably start when the current tax cuts expire, which I think is 2010.
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By SumItUp
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There are 15 Democrats and 18 Republicans that will be up for re-election in the Senate in 2010. History shows that this should trend toward the minority party when the Presidency is held by the majority. The Republicans are beginning today. Without the super majority, I think the Obama presidency will focus on issues that do not expose any "hard left" agenda.

The biggest area of concern is the appointment of Supreme Court Justices and other federal judges. Unfortunately, these appointments will remain in the system for 25+ years.
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By RubberMallet
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Abortion - nothing will change. he'll push for PBA's but i dont' think it will pass congress
Affirmative Action - nothing, i believe he will abandon the african american community's plite as most democrats do once given power
Budget Defecit - LOLZZZ
Cuba - not enough knowledge of the situation
Dollar Strength - it will get better but only because of its cyclical nature, not because obama and congress have done anything special
Economics - see dollar strength
Education - i think he will put more money into this. its needed and a big deal to people.
Foreign Trade - continue as normal. continuing to a globalization of resources
Gay Marriage - expect that to be nationalized in a few years, while they have the senate majority
Health Care - nothing will change.
Iran - Iran will decieve barack obama....about as stupidly as russia did america
North Korea - nothing
Pakistan - don't know
Support for Israel - not as great of support as with a repub in theoffice under the guise of "taking care of ourselves first"
Venezuela - nothing
War in Iraq - obama will get into office and learn why we are still there. 1/2-1/3 the troops will come home within 4 years. the other 85,000-120,000 will stay. and i don't see that number changing for a long time. we have 70,000 troops in germany right now.
War in Afghanistan - i think he'll pull through here and be victorius. i wouldln't be surprised we find bin laden until obama's term.
By LUconn
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RubberMallet wrote: Dollar Strength - it will get better but only because of its cyclical nature, not because obama and congress have done anything special
Economics - see dollar strength
I disagree on the Economics side. As bad as things are right now, propping it up with bailouts will just keep worsening things down the road. I know that's no different from if McCain were in there, but I just see our government screwing things up for many years to come as opposed to just leaving it alone and letting it's cyclical nature take over.
By ALUmnus
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Two more big issues not mentioned: Unions and Global Warming, both of which could have significant economic impacts.
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By SumItUp
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Abortion - no change expected, but no gains in the fight for life will be made. Activist judges will be appointed.
Affirmative Action - no change expected
Budget Deficit - increase to the deficit and astronomical growth to the national debt
Cuba - the Cuban people lose as he panders to the Castro dictatorship
Dollar Strength - weakens due to increased national debt and trade deficit
Economics - destroys small business
Education - more control of education at the federal level, increased spending, repeal of No Child Left Behind (AMEN!!!!)
Foreign Trade - increased trade deficit as import taxes are increased
Gay Marriage - no change
Health Care - a lot of talk and no change. Neither government managed or free market approaches have been articulated clearly enough for anyone to agree.
Iran - Nothing will be done to them, they will develop nuclear weapons and will create more instability in the Middle East
North Korea - They will be ignored and will funnel their nuclear knowledge to rogue states and/or terrorist organizations
Pakistan - This will be a big question mark. There has already been drastic change in their leadership.
Support for Israel - Gone
Venezuela - Obama presidency breathes life into a dictator that would otherwise lose control of his country in the next 4 years
War in Iraq - our boys continue to kick butt. Administration has moderate approach that allows for slow withdrawal and probably leaves a force in the country or in nearby Kuwait
War in Afghanistan - our boys continue to kick butt but lack the Administrative backing to close it out and rebuild. Conflict will linger.

All of this will be done by a cheering media that is amazed at how much better things seem to be since Bush is out of office.
By thepostman
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Abortion-I don't think that it changes much...Obama has extreme views, but these extreme views are not held by many dems, so I don't see things changing/
Affirmative Action-No Change
Budget Defecit-Without a doubt it will get bigger. With all the different programs he wants to add it is impossible for it not to get bigger
Cuba=Castro said it himself, he is happy Obama is president and a good relationship with him does nothing for the Cuban people
Dollar Strength-I don't see it getting much weaker. It may because of backlash from these bailouts...and with the defecit getting larger...wait and see I guess...
Economics: small businesses will take a hit and more jobs will be relocated overseas. He may think his plan will help this from happening....but I believe he is dead wrong
Education: No Child Left Behind will go away...thats about the only good I can see coming from this administration...chances are the education system will continue to be watered down
Foreign Trade: I don't see this changing much
Gay Marriage: No Change...Obama has said many times he is not for Gay Marriage admendment...
Health Care: Like many have said, way too many different views to come to conclusion on what to do...which is why I do not see it changing much/
Iran: Iran will have nobody watching what they are doing...which is bad
North Korea-they have been unwatched for so long, I don't see that changing
Pakistan-I have no idea honestly
Support for Israel-the support won't be as strong...but i think it will still be there
Venezuela-no idea really
War in Iraq-Troops will be pulled out for the most part by 2010, but I believe there will be permanent military bases set up there much like there are in Germany and Japan.
War in Afghanistan-I think this will be where Obama focuses on...but if he cuts military funding by too much it may be kind of tough...
By Hold My Own
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These stood out the most:
SumItUp wrote: Budget Deficit - increase to the deficit and astronomical growth to the national debt
Cuba - the Cuban people lose as he panders to the Castro dictatorship
Economics - destroys small business
Health Care - a lot of talk and no change. Neither government managed or free market approaches have been articulated clearly enough for anyone to agree.


All of this will be done by a cheering media that is amazed at how much better things seem to be since Bush is out of office.

I'm surprised to see your take on the Health Care, I would think if he does anything he'll have to see this out as he based a lot of his campaign on this
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By RubberMallet
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the medical systems have too much of a hand in it for him to successfully implement what he wants to implement. i think he'll do more for those who fall into the cracks of our current system but entire system reform/nationalization of the current system will not happen in the near future.

fall into cracks i mean :

kids in some instances
people who leave jobs and can't afford cobra and try and insure themselves but can't because of preexisting issues.
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By PAmedic
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I agree with the fact that the healthcare and Iraq issues are much more complex than stupid campaign platitudes suggest.

Obama will likely have a different outlook on both (at least, privately) when he sits in the big chair and sees what's truly involved in the those situations.
By LUconn
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Holy cow. This was fast.

http://www.change.gov/
By ATrain
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Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama and Joe Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. This relief would be a down payment on the Obama-Biden long-term plan to provide middle-class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief.
http://www.change.gov/agenda/economy/

How many are willing to bet that oil companies will just raise their prices to get back that lost revenue?
By ALUmnus
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Yeah, those rising costs will be a direct result of this plan. It's just meant to cause further dependance on the increasingly creepy Uncle Sam.
By Ed Dantes
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We can probably expect a sell-off in the markets from corporations fearing Obama's anti-business policies, and some foreign leader making a power play to take advantage of Obama's percieved weakness.

Oh wait, that's already happening? Crap, that didn't take long.
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By JDUB
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yeah the market has fallen big time the last 2 days.

i expect him to also enact something similar to the clinton gun ban. i could also see him going in the way of registering all guns or something like that but that wouldn't pass.
By Ed Dantes
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Let's tackle these one-by-one...

ABORTION: Obama will increase funding for single mothers and such, so as to take away the incentive for abortion for many. That's good. As for laws, Obama has pledged to sign the "Freedom of Choice Act" as one of his first acts in office. That law would repeal all hurdles to abortion on the federal and state level, such as parental notification laws, waiting periods, and partial-birth abortion. There will be unlimited and unfettered access to abortions, and it will probably be funded in part by taxpayer dollars if that's the case. Long story short, come January 20th, pro-lifers who voted for Obama will have blood on their hands.

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Is really a court decision (see Grutter v. Bollinger). I think, in part, employers will say to themselves 'I don't need to adhere to affirmative action, a black guy can become president, so I shouldn't give someone special favors to work for me.' But, the ACLU lawyer types will descend on those employers and sue them, and the media types will say we haven't really moved on. Besides, Obama is in favor of quota systems if a company is receiving any sort of federal funding. Example, faith-based organizations will no longer be able to discriminate in their hiring practices. Good? Yes, until a homosexual complains that a church is discriminating against him because of his sexual orientation when his application to work for the church as a vacation Bible school counselor was denied.

BUDGET DEFICIT: Obama will do little to curb the rising costs of mandatory spending (such as social security and medicare), which accounts for approximately 40% (and growing) in our budget. Baby boomers have already started retiring and they will continue to do so in the four (or eight) years of an Obamadminstration -- i just made that word up. There will be a short-term boost in receipts with taxes going up, but a receding economy and increased spending means a budget surplus is out of the question. Probably won't be as bad as it is now, because we won't be spending as much supporting a war effort.

CUBA: Raul Castro seems to be open to a change in trade relations (or at least, not as closed off to it as Fidel was). I predict Obama will have a "Jimmy Carter at Camp David with the Egyptians and Israelis" moment with the Cubans and open up trade and commerce with our neighbors, much to the chagrin of Cuban residents in America who escaped that regime.

DOLLAR STRENGTH: A global recession is not too far away, and the dollar will rise because we won't be nearly as screwed as other countries. We can certainly cope better with our woes than, say, France.

ECONOMICS: I think consumer confidence will go up because the media will stop reporting on how we're in the midst of the second Great Depression. I think our economy will start to recover mid-to-late of Obama's first term in office, but subsequently tank in the second (natural cycles).

EDUCATION: American kids are dumber and teachers unions are stronger than ever. The way to fix education is to either provide kids with a way out of crappy school systems, or to hold lousy teachers accountable. I can't forsee Obama standing up to teacher's unions.

FOREIGN TRADE: There will certainly be no new free trade agreements during Obama's term. However, I see relations improving with several nations such as the aforementioned Cuba, and Venezuela. I believe the trade deficit will decrease because we'll be doing relatively well compared to other nations.

GAY MARRIAGE: Ummm... With gay-friendly legislation, homosexuals can't ram it down the public's throats so they'll try to slip it in the backdoor. A gay couple will get married in a state where it's legal (imposed because of judicial fiat), such as in Massachusetts. They will try to move back to their home state, be denied, and sue because the law on the books preventing that (the Defense of Marriage Act) on the grounds that it violates the Full Faith and Credit clause in the Constitution. It'll work its way through the courts, and the Supremes will probably agree with that. A Roe v. Wade type decision will be enacted that basically says laws banning same-sex marriage are unconstitutional. Meanwhile, more and more states will permit civil unions, but it won't matter when that landmark decision is made.

HEALTH CARE: Some Massachusetts-style health care law will be enacted that mandates everyone over a certain age has to own health insurance. The government will agree to co-pay part of the costs. There may be an agreement with states to also co-pay. Premiums will shoot up, though. And the cost is going to be $$$$.

IRAN: Crapshoot, because no one knows. The situation in Iran is tied to the situation in Israel. The situation in Israel is tied to the peace negotiations with the Palestinians, which is scheduled to happen in January. I think some agreement will happen between Israel & the Palestinians. I think Israel will probably re-instate the hawkish Likud party. Still, I don't think they'll opt to attack Iran, who has problems of their own. Iran's economy is in the tank and it's not going anywhere because its cash cow, oil, is seeing its prices decrease. That being said, I think Iran will, with the backing of Russia and China (and hell, maybe even President Obama) announce to the world that they will stop its nuclear program IF Israel reveals and vows to destroy its nuclear arsenal. Israel will balk at the notion, and the international opinion of the Jewish state will hit the crapper.

NORTH KOREA: Kim Jong-Il will die in the next four years. Some other ruler will take his place. Tensions may cool between us and them (they may already), but its people will still be imprisoned in that totalitarian regime, and North Korea will continue to be an ally to other surreptitious countries such as Syria.

PAKISTAN: Somewhere down the line, we will probably launch a targeted strike at some place in Pakistan, saying we believed Al Qaeda militants were there. Heck, Osama bin Laden may be there, and we may get him. You know... maybe Osama bin Laden will make himself found. I wouldn't put it beyond him.

SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL: See above. By the way, did anyone read Joel Rosenberg's book, "The Ezekiel Option"? In it, the United Nations debates a bill that mandates Israel disarm its nukes or face its wrath. When it comes to a vote, many nations agree to the measure, fewer disagree... And the United States president votes "Present". I totally see something like that happening.

VENEZUELA: President Obama will meet with Hugo Chavez sometime in his first two years in office. Chavez will salute America, while at the same time find ways to continue to curb its oil production and encourage OPEC members to do the same, so as to jack up the price of oil somewhere between 80 - 120 dollars a barrel, depending on whether or not there is a skirmish going on.

WAR IN IRAQ: I seriously think Obama won't do anything differently than what George Bush would do if he was nominated for a third-term. We will reach an agreement with the Iraqis before Obama takes office to allow our troops to stay in past the UN-mandated withdrawal date of Dec. 31 of this year. We will continue to slowly draw down forces -- Obama says he will keep Defense Secretary Robert Gates in his current position for the time being and he won't do anything to David Petraeus. The Iraq War will be won as well as any war can be won that doesn't end in someone signing a peace treaty, or aboard an aircraft carrier with "Mission Accomplished" in the background.

WAR IN AFGHANISTAN: We will commit troops to Afghanistan, however, there will be no real ground strategy. Eventually we'll pull them out, though, without fixing the problems. The Taliban will take over and we won't really pay attention anymore.

RANDOM PREDICTION: France will be the next nation to be hit with a terrorist attack, nothing 9/11 in scale but probably more like the London Bombings of 7/7/05. Muslims are prevalent in France, ill-tempered, and hate french president Nicolas Sarkozy.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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holy crap Ed!... Im sure that was full of great information but there is no way on God's beautiful green earth I will read all that.
By ATrain
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Ed, to take this off topic and to answer your question, I did read the Ezekiel Option and I agree with you that Obama will vote "present." If you read the conclusion to that series (Dead Heat), LA, Seattle, DC, and CIA Headquarters all get nuked right before the rapture happens.

Ok, now back to the topic at hand
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By SumItUp
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Ed Dantes wrote:
CUBA: Raul Castro seems to be open to a change in trade relations (or at least, not as closed off to it as Fidel was). I predict Obama will have a "Jimmy Carter at Camp David with the Egyptians and Israelis" moment with the Cubans and open up trade and commerce with our neighbors, much to the chagrin of Cuban residents in America who escaped that regime.
Ed, those are good responses. I have a few differences of opinion, but much of it is strictly conjecture anyway. However, I must point out the fact that Raul Castro is a ruthless killing b****** (Can I say that? I promise I could say worse). He is only open to trade relations that continue to benefit his regime but has no intention of benefiting the Cuban people. Do not listen to the [EDITED by SumItUp] propaganda that originates with Granma (the Cuban Communist newspaper).
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By Cider Jim
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Ed Dantes wrote: GAY MARRIAGE: Ummm... With gay-friendly legislation, homosexuals can't ram it down the public's throats so they'll try to slip it in the backdoor.
Maybe the best example of double entendre that I've ever read in my life. :shock:
By ALUmnus
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It took a very keen eye to notice this. Under Obama's new plan for the nation, he wants to require community service for kids (and possibly extend this to retirees using incentives, which in my mind means witholding benefits until they comply).

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/pres ... ck-slavery
Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.
And noted by the author of this blog, this idea is specifically unConstitutional, forbidden by the 13th Amendment. You'd think a "former law professor" would know that.
By 4everfsu
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His plan of getting people to work for the state reminds me of Cuba
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