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By tyndal23
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thepostman wrote: September 21st, 2020, 1:59 pm Yeah, neither democrats or Republicans can claim some sort of moral highground on hypocrisy.

I know that this is why a lot of people justified voting for Trump but if he makes this nomination now, i may be more willing to give my vote to a 3rd party candidate. If he holds off, I'd begrudgingly vote for Trump. There is no way I am alone in that thinking.

But you're right, it is probably better to do it now when senate majority and the presidency is guaranteed. It just sends the message that Trump and the RNC aren't as confident about November as they like to pretend they are.
No, thankfully you are very much alone in that type of rationality. Go vote your 3rd party but I don’t want to hear any of your comments on future LU Presidents or direction of LU from here on out.
By thepostman
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I'm fine with being alone but respectfully disagree that is the case. It might be true among people who post here but this is an extremely small microcosm of political thought.

Politics are much deeper than Republican vs Democrats. I fall left with some social issues and fall right on some social issues. As far as fiscally, I'm extremely conservative. Especially with the federal government. I am not sure where you think I stand but from your post, I'd gather you're very mistaken.

I'm not sure what my poltical commentary has to do with my views on the direction of LU. Kind of a head scratcher.
By tyndal23
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Jonathan Carone wrote: September 27th, 2020, 3:14 pm Are you really claiming only people who vote for Trump should be listened to when it comes to the future of a Christian university?
I am claiming anyone threatening to vote 3rd Party on the Single issue of SC nomination that the rules clearly stated In The Senate Belong to this President after the Dems changed the senate rules to allow for their candidate to be voted in Last time around - I don’t want to hear advice from that person on anything of relative importance to me, LU’s future bring one of those.
By thepostman
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Not what I said or meant but I'm not sure you're interested in a real discussion.

Good news though. I have ZERO say in what happens at LU. Bad news (for you i guess) is, I have much stronger opinions on that than polticians I have no faith in.
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By RubberMallet
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flameshaw wrote:Yeah, I got one for my mom the other day, at a house where she never lived. In addition, she has been deceased for over 15 years.
we received them for the deceased couple that lived here, their daughter, her husband and what i'm assuming is a child (the 3 of them lived with them approximately 20 years ago).
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By RubberMallet
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lots of people only voted for trump based solely on the idea he's likely get to replace a few justices.
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By tyndal23
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thepostman wrote: September 27th, 2020, 4:18 pm Not what I said or meant but I'm not sure you're interested in a real discussion.

Good news though. I have ZERO say in what happens at LU. Bad news (for you i guess) is, I have much stronger opinions on that than polticians I have no faith in.
So clarify. It sounds like you are voting Trump UNLESS he delays nomination and let’s the Democrats appoint a judge if they win.
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By RubberMallet
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pfff. he clearly states that he would vote trump IF he delays nomination. if they push through Barrett before the election he has no reason to vote trump any longer. Good Gravy.
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By Jonathan Carone
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RubberMallet wrote: September 28th, 2020, 10:16 am pfff. he clearly states that he would vote trump IF he delays nomination. if they push through Barrett before the election he has no reason to vote trump any longer. Good Gravy.
I think that's going to be a lot of conservatives, especially those that choked down Trump just to get the justices. If he gets a 6-3 majority, it's a lot easier to vote third party/protest vote in this election knowing there's no long term damage coming.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: September 28th, 2020, 11:18 am
RubberMallet wrote: September 28th, 2020, 10:16 am pfff. he clearly states that he would vote trump IF he delays nomination. if they push through Barrett before the election he has no reason to vote trump any longer. Good Gravy.
I think that's going to be a lot of conservatives, especially those that choked down Trump just to get the justices. If he gets a 6-3 majority, it's a lot easier to vote third party/protest vote in this election knowing there's no long term damage coming.
I dunno. A Kamala Harris Presidency could have some long term problems. A 7-2 majority or replacing Thomas with another Conservative would be a good idea.
Having Trumps pre Covid Economy would be nice.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: September 28th, 2020, 11:23 am A Harris presidency with a 6-3 conservative court wouldn't be able to push through long term changes without the court striking them down.
But her legislation would be horrible
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By Jonathan Carone
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But for those conservatives who don't agree with Trump, that's a four year hit as opposed to a 30-40 year hit they had to weigh when voting against Hillary in 2016.
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By chris leedlelee
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Jonathan Carone wrote: September 28th, 2020, 11:23 am A Harris presidency with a 6-3 conservative court wouldn't be able to push through long term changes without the court striking them down.
Have you heard about their threats to stack the courts, even before RBG died. I would have confidence in the Supreme Court if Dems weren't threatening to stack it. I'm also concerned about them adding two new states, Puerto Rico and DC, to skew the Senate in their favor permanently. Democrats can't be trusted near the levers of power because the radicals are fully in charge of the party
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By Jonathan Carone
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I’ve heard the threats of court stacking and I think they’re threats that won’t ever actually happen.

As for statehood for Puerto Rico and DC - I’m up for that debate. I haven’t looked into it enough to see how I feel.
By stokesjokes
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Not well-versed in the issue either, but don’t citizens of Puerto Rico and DC experience taxation without representation? Both have a single, non-voting member of the House, but that’s it.

DC is in a weird limbo because of the nature of it, but I’d like to hear an argument about why PR shouldn’t be a state, other than the fear that it would vote Democrat.
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By Purple Haize
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stokesjokes wrote: September 28th, 2020, 3:53 pm Not well-versed in the issue either, but don’t citizens of Puerto Rico and DC experience taxation without representation? Both have a single, non-voting member of the House, but that’s it.

DC is in a weird limbo because of the nature of it, but I’d like to hear an argument about why PR shouldn’t be a state, other than the fear that it would vote Democrat.
I have several friends from PR. They don’t all really wanna be a State. They love for their debts to be forgiven though
By stokesjokes
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Wikipedia lists the results of votes on statehood in PR- it looks like it’s a small majority that want to be a state, but definitely not overwhelming, with 55% favoring status change in 2012.

Last time they voted, 97% voted for statehood, because, in a head-scratching move, the pro-status quo group boycotted the vote, so only people in favor voted.
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By Purple Haize
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Tonight’s debate preview-
If Biden can make it through the entire 90 minutes he will be declared the winner
Every statement by Trump will be taken literally and “fact checked” ad nauseum
No statement by Biden will be “fact checked” it will be chalked up as a “misstatement
I love the pre debate drama about the drug tests, the ear piece test and whether or not Biden already has the question
Traditionally incumbents Bomb on their first debate and I expect Trump to do the same. Incumbents have the “disadvantage” of actually doing the job so they think they know everything already. Which they do. They just don’t fine tune it for a debate the first time.
Trump will say something minor that will get way overblown
Biden will retreat to his basement for the next few days this to get his meds right.
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote: September 29th, 2020, 7:26 pm Reference statehood, DC isn't big enough to be a state. It's a city, and for most part a crummy city.
How big does a place have to be in order to be a State?
There are some pretty small Countries out there
By thepostman
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DC is bigger than 2 states population wise but that doesnt matter and is a terrible argument against statehood. DC was never intended to be a state so I am less inclined to grant them statehood than PR. For the longest time PR didn't want statehood and seems pretty split on the issue as of now. If they get to the point where they want it then I say give it to them.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: September 29th, 2020, 7:45 pm DC is bigger than 2 states population wise but that doesnt matter and is a terrible argument against statehood. DC was never intended to be a state so I am less inclined to grant them statehood than PR. For the longest time PR didn't want statehood and seems pretty split on the issue as of now. If they get to the point where they want it then I say give it to them.
What do you do with their debt?
By thepostman
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What is more debt? :lol: I kid of course.

That is a great question and one I am not well versed enough in to talk about. It is a fair question though and also a much better reason against statehood than being scared of the dems getting more seats. Especially since PR is pretty split politically, much like the rest of the United States.
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