[thepostman]

Haha. Not typically!

Just another example of people using scary sounding terms and phrases to cause people to pay attention. This could potentially have lasting effects on events that actual require a shelter-in-place order.

Glad the Maryland governor stressed it wasn't a shelter-in-place order during his press conference earlier today.

[Jonathan Carone]

Nashville called theirs a Safer At Home order.

[TH Spangler]

[Purple Haize]

Trump just said this is going to be weeks not 2-3 months. Very nice. Now I’m waiting for the pundits to go nuts

[ballcoach15]

The Democrats are sorry enough to let economy crash, so they can blame Trump.

[Jonathan Carone]

Again, let me preface this by saying I am for social distancing. I think us quarantining for 2-4 weeks is the right thing to do.

My opinion is we can’t do that forever. Here’s one example why:

Calls to the group’s National Parent Helpline for families in crisis have spiked 30% in the past week, Pion-Berlin said. They’re coming from mothers and fathers stressed about child care, food insecurity and other fears arising from the coronavirus crisis. 

The Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline also has seen a 10% surge this week in calls and texts, said spokeswoman Daphne Young. Rather than reporting abuse, however, some of the callers are anxious parents seeking help with child care and frightened children stuck at home with their abusers, Young said. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inv ... 892923001/

As parents get laid off, have hours cut, and are isolated at home, these numbers are going to continue to rise.

[thepostman]

Trump just said this is going to be weeks not 2-3 months. Very nice. Now I’m waiting for the pundits to go nuts

Trump also said last month that the tests were "perfect" so I will hold my judgement.

I sure hope he is right.

Our school district just sent out a survey about our educational needs for our child so I'd dare say an announcement is coming soon that schooling will be moved to an online environment here in Maryland. This is going to be a challenging time in many states just for the fact alone. The chain reaction of shutting down schools will be pretty significant.

[lynchburgwildcats]

That’s illogical as the current data worldwide shows that people between like 20-50 are more likely to get a serious case, their immune systems are just better equipped to fight it off than the senior citizens.

But isn’t the point of the lockdown not to overrun the hospitals?

If younger people are better equipped to fight it off, therefore not needing to go to the hospital or need a ventilator, then why are we doing this?

I was all for flattening the curve and social distancing. I still am! But the idea we’ll still be doing this a month from now isn’t feasible. Take away the idea that small businesses will be dead. Hospitals are losing revenue hand over fist right now. You continue to cancel all elective surgeries, preventative screenings, and general check ups and we’ll see hospitals start to lay people off thereby starting a hospital shortage created by us trying to prevent a hospital shortage.

Typically serious cases require hospitalization.

[Purple Haize]

Trump just said this is going to be weeks not 2-3 months. Very nice. Now I’m waiting for the pundits to go nuts

Trump also said last month that the tests were "perfect" so I will hold my judgement.

I sure hope he is right.

Our school district just sent out a survey about our educational needs for our child so I'd dare say an announcement is coming soon that schooling will be moved to an online environment here in Maryland. This is going to be a challenging time in many states just for the fact alone. The chain reaction of shutting down schools will be pretty significant.

One of the things he and Dr Birx both said was that this was something we learned a lot from. That things have changed and we can do two things at once. Both cited the lowering mortality rate etc. The press corps was having none of it.

[rogers3]

Hope her next jig is not at one of the colleges that doesn't survive this event. Some experts say of 30 % fail in the next 2 years.

I wouldn't be surprised, and the vast majority of them will not be missed. If anything, expediting their inevitable demise may be one of the most positive things to come out of this. The 4 year Liberal Arts degree has been oversold and overpriced for years, and I suspect that as students (and parents) discover they can learn the same things on line for less, and without subjecting themselves or their children to face to face indoctrination with the far left agenda, a lot of them may never come back to campuses.

Oversold and overpriced...yup, right here in Lynchburg. Place called Liberty. Jerry has been digging at this mine as fast as he can get in; we can't blame him for taking advantage of the system that colleges have put together in coordination with the government. If anyone wants to be critical of higher education, they should start right here with Jerry's s*** show. At least he doesn't have to do the right thing and cough up refunds for campus housing now. A couple of you are pretty disgusting in your support and defense of such overt corruption.

[TH Spangler]

You need to put your axe away and let it go. You'll feel better in the long run.

[olldflame]

Hope her next jig is not at one of the colleges that doesn't survive this event. Some experts say of 30 % fail in the next 2 years.

I wouldn't be surprised, and the vast majority of them will not be missed. If anything, expediting their inevitable demise may be one of the most positive things to come out of this. The 4 year Liberal Arts degree has been oversold and overpriced for years, and I suspect that as students (and parents) discover they can learn the same things on line for less, and without subjecting themselves or their children to face to face indoctrination with the far left agenda, a lot of them may never come back to campuses.

Oversold and overpriced...yup, right here in Lynchburg. Place called Liberty. Jerry has been digging at this mine as fast as he can get in; we can't blame him for taking advantage of the system that colleges have put together in coordination with the government. If anyone wants to be critical of higher education, they should start right here with Jerry's s*** show. At least he doesn't have to do the right thing and cough up refunds for campus housing now. A couple of you are pretty disgusting in your support and defense of such overt corruption.

I am not happy with some of the things JR has said and done recently, but Liberty is not the only school not refunding room and board, and unlike some of the others, their students do in fact have the option of living on campus. Not so at places like Cal Berkeley. Yes, like basically every other 4 year university, they graduate students in many programs whose degree does little to prepare them for the workplace. What is different is that they are not also brainwashed from being constantly inundated with Marxist dogma. It's no surprise that professors at universities who are now forced to have their lectures on line are scared to death that what they are teaching is going to be revealed.

[Purple Haize]

Summer Olympics have been officially postponed

[Jonathan Carone]

Yes, like basically every other 4 year university, they graduate students in many programs whose degree does little to prepare them for the workplace. What is different is that they are not also brainwashed from being constantly inundated with Marxist dogma. It's no surprise that professors at universities who are now forced to have their lectures on line are scared to death that what they are teaching is going to be revealed.

What is also different is Liberty takes in more federal aid money on the backs of people who will never be able to pay it back and likely never finish their degree than most others school in the country.

[thepostman]

Do you have any data to back up the "most other schools in the country" claim or just an educated guess?

I don't doubt it but I have never seen anything that could ever prove that.

[TH Spangler]

I've seen numbers that are the opposite.

[olldflame]

Yes, like basically every other 4 year university, they graduate students in many programs whose degree does little to prepare them for the workplace. What is different is that they are not also brainwashed from being constantly inundated with Marxist dogma. It's no surprise that professors at universities who are now forced to have their lectures on line are scared to death that what they are teaching is going to be revealed.

What is also different is Liberty takes in more federal aid money on the backs of people who will never be able to pay it back and likely never finish their degree than most others school in the country.

Apples and oranges. You are talking about a quantitative difference as opposed to qualitative. Yes, Liberty has one of the highest levels of total student debt, but that is mainly because the on line program is so huge. Unlike the majority of the schools who are now teaching many classes on line for the first time, the content has been out there for years for all the world to see and professors are not quaking in their boots because parents are going to find out what their children are being taught.

[thepostman]

I've seen numbers that are the opposite.

Like I asked Jon if you are able to then please share them. I can say I have seen something all day long but it is useless if I can't provide data.

[Jonathan Carone]

Do you have any data to back up the "most other schools in the country" claim or just an educated guess?

I don't doubt it but I have never seen anything that could ever prove that.

By 2017, Liberty students were receiving more than $772 million in total aid from the Department of Education — nearly $100 million of it in the form of Pell grants and the rest in federal student loans. Among universities nationwide, it ranked sixth in federal aid.

The rate of Liberty graduates who default on their loans within three years of graduating is 9.9 percent, several points higher than the average for nonprofit colleges, though still below that for for-profit colleges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/maga ... nline.html

We've discussed that on here before:

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=25446&p=549394&hil ... ns#p549340

[olldflame]

I'm sure opinions vary greatly here regarding Tim Pool. He's a former lefty who now holds himself out to be a "left leaning moderate", but most of what he has put out lately is ant-left if not actually conservative. My main problem with him is I wish he would get off the fence.

[thepostman]

Do you have any data to back up the "most other schools in the country" claim or just an educated guess?

I don't doubt it but I have never seen anything that could ever prove that.

By 2017, Liberty students were receiving more than $772 million in total aid from the Department of Education — nearly $100 million of it in the form of Pell grants and the rest in federal student loans. Among universities nationwide, it ranked sixth in federal aid.

The rate of Liberty graduates who default on their loans within three years of graduating is 9.9 percent, several points higher than the average for nonprofit colleges, though still below that for for-profit colleges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/maga ... nline.html

We've discussed that on here before:

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=25446&p=549394&hil ... ns#p549340

I'm getting old and forget things. Thanks, I do remember reading this now.

[Class of 20Something]

For-profit colleges had the highest rate of defaults at 15.2 percent compared to 9.6 percent at public and 6.6 percent at private colleges

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktak ... es-decline

@Jonathan Carone The N&A dropped an article the same year saying as of 2015 the default rate was 9.2. Less than half of CVCC and VUL default rates.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/ ... 16c5b.html

[olldflame]

Just a quick update on the situation here in the DR. All non essential business as well as schools are shut down and there is a nationwide curfew from 8PM to 6AM. 312 total cases with 6 deaths. It still seems that virtually all of those sick are either European tourists or resort workers who had contact with them. Delta has been designated as the only air carrier to have a limited schedule of flights to and from the US, with a trickle of Dominicans who were on short stays and medical aid workers coming in and Americans returning home going out. I'm monitoring the situation closely, but have no plans to return at present.

[olldflame]

Schumer and Pelosi are taking the advice of Rahm Emmanuel in shamelessly using this crisis to promote their agenda. Borders on treason IMHO.

[rogers3]

You need to put your axe away and let it go. You'll feel better in the long run.

No, I remember Jerry Sr. talking about how much people hate truth, but he felt compelled to speak truth, even when it made him unpopular.
Just played the Jerry Sr. card