[Th3rd]

yeh...Ether is the greatest battle song of all time bottom line.

Read the lyrics on Blueprint II lyrics and some of the back story....he calls him cheap, a faker, and my all time favorite "My mom's cant save you this time, this is history" b/c last time Jay-z's mom made him apologize on the radio for some things he said

hahaha i read the lyrics wow, i got to listen to this song

and to TDdance you are correct Nas was in his prime shortly after i was born (i was 5 when Illmatic came out) and you are correct Nas is nasty, not of all time but nasty.

Plus Nas was the first to use a baby picture on his album (Weezy ripped that idea from him)

After this incident both continued to go against one another on various tracks, the shots taken including Jay-Z criticizing Nas for his apparent hypocrisy on his The Blueprint²: The Gift & the Curse album's title track. On "Blueprint 2," Jay begins his diss against Nas in the second verse by attacking his street credibility. Jay also says that while he himself is more successful, he is more generous than Nas with his money. Jay goes on to mock Nas's spiritual persona from Stillmatic and after accusing Nas of using both this appearance and convoluted lyrics in an attempt to appear more intelligent than he is:

Cause the dude wear a kufi, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the mess that he write
Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?

In the lines immediately after, he also accuses Nas of hypocrisy for putting out commercial/materialistic-oriented tracks and then denouncing materialism and misogyny on other songs. Jay-Z also says, "My momma can't save you this time /this is history" referencing the public apology his mother made him make after "Supa Ugly" was released. However, Jay-Z raps on a verse saying that he became stronger after "Ether"[6]

yea i had already read that

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

My Turn

Top 10

1. Lil Wayne
2. Jay Z
3. biggie
4. jeezy
5. luda
6. gucci mane
7. jim jones
8. fabolous
9. gorilla zoe
10. jody breeze

You have a better 10 than 3rd!

And Ill tell you what FABOLOUS is the most under rated rapper ever! Dude is a beast!

[jcmanson]

Th3rd, I used to like ya until you put Kobe up.

[Th3rd]

Th3rd, I used to like ya until you put Kobe up.

ouch, im sorry Kobe is one of my favs, normally im an old school guy with the likes of Dr. J and Pistol Pete but Kobe is one of my favorites in todays game

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Th3rd, I used to like ya until you put Kobe up.

Cmon Manson, he thinks Wayne is ruining rap and Eminem is a beast, Kobe is his favorite rapper!

[TDDance234]

My Turn

Top 10

1. Lil Wayne
2. Jay Z
3. biggie
4. jeezy
5. luda
6. gucci mane
7. jim jones
8. fabolous
9. gorilla zoe
10. jody breeze

You have a better 10 than 3rd!

And Ill tell you what FABOLOUS is the most under rated rapper ever! Dude is a beast!

Agreed. I really liked his stuff until he tried to go commercial and tried to put everything in the clubs.

[Th3rd]

Th3rd, I used to like ya until you put Kobe up.

Cmon Manson, he thinks Wayne is ruining rap and Eminem is a beast, Kobe is his favorite rapper!

i never said he was ruining rap though he may... i think he has brought a lot of people to rap that would otherwise not have listened to rap which is great, its bad when those people dont move on to better stuff, thats where its bad.... and we can talk about Kobe in another thread cause we already started this from a Jesse thread

[dompennix]

I haven't listed to a rap CD in probably 10+ years but IMO, this title belongs to Nas, and it's not even close.

Nas? Nope

Nas in his prime was before you were born.

I know but I still listen to his stuff, he's good but not the best

[jcmanson]

Greatest rapper ever:

Will Smith

[dompennix]

My Turn

Top 10

1. Lil Wayne
2. Jay Z
3. biggie
4. jeezy
5. luda
6. gucci mane
7. jim jones
8. fabolous
9. gorilla zoe
10. jody breeze

You have a better 10 than 3rd!

And Ill tell you what FABOLOUS is the most under rated rapper ever! Dude is a beast!

Are you serious? Half these rappers lyrics are pretty weak. Especially Gucci

[Th3rd]

Greatest rapper ever:

Will Smith

Cleanest Secular Rapper Ever : Will Smith

now Switch haha

[jcmanson]

Greatest rapper ever:

Will Smith

Cleanest Secular Rapper Ever : Will Smith

now Switch haha

Oh come on, you can’t deny he’s a great lyricist. Just read the lyrics from just the 2 of us.

[Th3rd]

Greatest rapper ever:

Will Smith

Cleanest Secular Rapper Ever : Will Smith

now Switch haha

Oh come on, you can’t deny he’s a great lyricist. Just read the lyrics from just the 2 of us.

no he really is a good guy, nowhere near best or greatest

[jcmanson]

Cleanest Secular Rapper Ever : Will Smith

now Switch haha

Oh come on, you can’t deny he’s a great lyricist. Just read the lyrics from just the 2 of us.

no he really is a good guy, nowhere near best or greatest

hater

[Th3rd]

Oh come on, you can’t deny he’s a great lyricist. Just read the lyrics from just the 2 of us.

no he really is a good guy, nowhere near best or greatest

hater

Big Willie Style

[Hold My Own]

Had more hits then X to the Z and Proof



Just sayin...

[Th3rd]

Had more hits then X to the Z and Proof



Just sayin...

he only had more hits then Proof because Proof got killed

and X has some great songs off of Ma Vs Machine and Restless

[justagirl]

My Turn

Top 10

1. Lil Wayne
2. Jay Z
3. biggie
4. jeezy
5. luda
6. gucci mane
7. jim jones
8. fabolous
9. gorilla zoe
10. jody breeze

You have a better 10 than 3rd!

And Ill tell you what FABOLOUS is the most under rated rapper ever! Dude is a beast!

agreed. AND, i dont think Gucci should be called weak. not the best, clearly. and six is probably too high a rating, but 6-10 i just kind of put them all down. Black Tee, On Deck, Thats my Hood, Hustle..I heard...Trap house...I shook them haters off....

HARDLY weak.

[dompennix]

Wayne has a few good songs, but he doesnt even write everything. He rhymes the same words alot. And his lyrics are pretty pointless

[blwall1416]

[pbow]

1. Jay-Z (The Blueprint and the Black Album are freaking amazing)
2. Nas
3. Tupac
4. Biggie
5. Jeezy
6. Common
7. Outkast
8. Rakim
9. Kanye
10. The Game

Those are just my personal favorites...nobody even come's close to Jay-Z to me, if you haven't seen him in concert do it as quickly as possible (I saw the one in London from Kingdom Come, it was ridiculous.) I could listen to the song "Heart of the City" a billion times and it would never get old to me.

I used to like a lot of Cam'ron but that's mainly his old stuff...i'm not really a fan of his now.

[flames1971]

Wayne has a few good songs, but he doesnt even write everything. He rhymes the same words alot. And his lyrics are pretty pointless

Just like my posts

[dompennix]

Wayne has a few good songs, but he doesnt even write everything. He rhymes the same words alot. And his lyrics are pretty pointless

Just like my posts

Exactly, but now they are getting a bit more pointful...i guess thats the word

[Th3rd]

Wayne has a few good songs, but he doesnt even write everything. He rhymes the same words alot. And his lyrics are pretty pointless

Just like my posts

Exactly, but now they are getting a bit more pointful...i guess thats the word

i have said this over and over

[Hold My Own]

My Turn

Top 10

1. Lil Wayne
2. Jay Z
3. biggie
4. jeezy
5. luda
6. gucci mane
7. jim jones
8. fabolous
9. gorilla zoe
10. jody breeze

You have a better 10 than 3rd!

And Ill tell you what FABOLOUS is the most under rated rapper ever! Dude is a beast!

agreed. AND, i dont think Gucci should be called weak. not the best, clearly. and six is probably too high a rating, but 6-10 i just kind of put them all down. Black Tee, On Deck, Thats my Hood, Hustle..I heard...Trap house...I shook them haters off....

HARDLY weak.

TBGBG is going to fall in love with you...haha...this is pretty hot coming from a girl though