[logic]

When I lived off campus, I always wanted a parking garage. Now that I live in Boston and drive in to the city all the time, I completely understand what Chancellor Falwell is saying. I would have killed myself before trying to park in a parking garage at LU.

Your mentioning of Boston sparked an idea.

1. As per "The Big Dig," why not convince the state (we'll pay for it) to put 460 into a tunnel? We could build over top of the highway and "unite" East with main campus. Imagine the prime building spaces that we could make and the parking lots we could have. It is an eyesore to have a 4 lane highway running through campus anyhow.

2. A completely illogical and somewhat impossible idea would be to buy up all of the Wards road commercial lots, one by one (Candlers Station style), and then raze everything and turn it into a Wyndhurst / Cornerstone community of planned living and small style commercial lots. This would require a rezoning from the city but would allow for 10,000 students to walk a short distance to campus.


Imagine apartments where all of the big box retailers are. Imagine had the city zoned wards residential or low density mixed use back in the day. As much as I love Liberty, I do hate the fact that we're bordered by an atrocious commercial center of snarling traffic and a railroad. I don't mind the mountain but hate that a major highway runs through it all.

Let's tunnel the tracks while we're at it too.

[Purple Haize]

It would actually be easier to tunnel our roads. It also would have been amazingly 'logical' to use access roads up and down the Wards Rd retail area..

[bluedevilflame]

I don't mind the mountain but hate that a major highway runs through it all.

You are not alone in that feeling, but nothing can be done about it now unfortunately, just got to deal with it..

[logic]

We could tunnel it or cover it, no? Imagine the green space one could create by in a sense "putting a cover over" the highway. Even if we couldn't build on it we could plant grass and have a huge lawn area. Wouldn't be hard really, just expensive.

[ATrain]

It would actually be easier to tunnel our roads. It also would have been amazingly 'logical' to use access roads up and down the Wards Rd retail area..

Access roads are a bad idea. See Laskin Rd. in Virginia Beach. None of the tourists are able to grasp the concept.

[Purple Haize]

It would actually be easier to tunnel our roads. It also would have been amazingly 'logical' to use access roads up and down the Wards Rd retail area..

Access roads are a bad idea. See Laskin Rd. in Virginia Beach. None of the tourists are able to grasp the concept.

Ha. But we have far fewer tourists here then VA Beach. An access road running from Harvard to Wards Ferrywould be great. Ditto from the off ramp to Starbucks. Heck Sheetz is practically one now!

[Wilberforce91]

One idea that I think would work well for Liberty, especially when the Circle dorms are replaced, is having a parking garage (two or three levels) underneath a high-rise dorm. That's the way one of the new towers at UNC-Greensboro is set up and makes sense as it gives residential students closer access to their vehicles while opening up surface spots for faculty/commuters. Here are some pics: http://hrl.uncg.edu/living_on_campus/ha ... d/spgd.php Just a thought! Side Note: First post ever! Been surfing for a while but finally broke down and registered.

[bluedevilflame]

Welcome to the board! I tell you, UNC Greensboro has really done some great things with their campus in such a crammed area, I think we should definitely give ideas like this a thought for our campus

[LUconn]

1. As per "The Big Dig," why not convince the state (we'll pay for it) to put 460 into a tunnel? We could build over top of the highway and "unite" East with main campus. Imagine the prime building spaces that we could make and the parking lots we could have. It is an eyesore to have a 4 lane highway running through campus anyhow.

Ha! Who, you? Keep spending millions of the schools money in your head though.

[Hold My Own]

One idea that I think would work well for Liberty, especially when the Circle dorms are replaced, is having a parking garage (two or three levels) underneath a high-rise dorm. That's the way one of the new towers at UNC-Greensboro is set up and makes sense as it gives residential students closer access to their vehicles while opening up surface spots for faculty/commuters. Here are some pics: http://hrl.uncg.edu/living_on_campus/ha ... d/spgd.php Just a thought! Side Note: First post ever! Been surfing for a while but finally broke down and registered.

My wife spent her Freshman year at UNCG until I recruited her to LU. They do have some nice facilities....I also enjoyed hearing the ping of the baseball bat anywhere you were on campus because of the central location...as a baseball fan I enjoyed that...and it would drown out the chants "we're here and we're queer and we like bubbles" (true story)

[JLFJR]

One idea that I think would work well for Liberty, especially when the Circle dorms are replaced, is having a parking garage (two or three levels) underneath a high-rise dorm. That's the way one of the new towers at UNC-Greensboro is set up and makes sense as it gives residential students closer access to their vehicles while opening up surface spots for faculty/commuters. Here are some pics: http://hrl.uncg.edu/living_on_campus/ha ... d/spgd.php Just a thought! Side Note: First post ever! Been surfing for a while but finally broke down and registered.

This might actually be the only type of parking garage that would work on main campus because, if dorm students only are using it, it won't generate traffic during peak hours that campus roads cannot handle. I knew some good ideas would come from this forum. Thank you!

[Purple Haize]

One idea that I think would work well for Liberty, especially when the Circle dorms are replaced, is having a parking garage (two or three levels) underneath a high-rise dorm. That's the way one of the new towers at UNC-Greensboro is set up and makes sense as it gives residential students closer access to their vehicles while opening up surface spots for faculty/commuters. Here are some pics: http://hrl.uncg.edu/living_on_campus/ha ... d/spgd.php Just a thought! Side Note: First post ever! Been surfing for a while but finally broke down and registered.

This might actually be the only type of parking garage that would work on main campus because, if dorm students only are using it, it won't generate traffic during peak hours that campus roads cannot handle. I knew some good ideas would come from this forum. Thank you!

We are smarter then we look

[bigsmooth]

When I lived off campus, I always wanted a parking garage. Now that I live in Boston and drive in to the city all the time, I completely understand what Chancellor Falwell is saying. I would have killed myself before trying to park in a parking garage at LU.

Your mentioning of Boston sparked an idea.

1. As per "The Big Dig," why not convince the state (we'll pay for it) to put 460 into a tunnel? We could build over top of the highway and "unite" East with main campus. Imagine the prime building spaces that we could make and the parking lots we could have. It is an eyesore to have a 4 lane highway running through campus anyhow.

2. A completely illogical and somewhat impossible idea would be to buy up all of the Wards road commercial lots, one by one (Candlers Station style), and then raze everything and turn it into a Wyndhurst / Cornerstone community of planned living and small style commercial lots. This would require a rezoning from the city but would allow for 10,000 students to walk a short distance to campus.


Imagine apartments where all of the big box retailers are. Imagine had the city zoned wards residential or low density mixed use back in the day. As much as I love Liberty, I do hate the fact that we're bordered by an atrocious commercial center of snarling traffic and a railroad. I don't mind the mountain but hate that a major highway runs through it all.

Let's tunnel the tracks while we're at it too.

the big dig was the worst road project ever. it is falling apart, and though it has helped traffic flow in boston, it is still not excellent and traffic problems still exist. i have no problem with 460 running through campus. JMU is the same way, but the land is maintained much better. I would love to see the area landscaped better, but i know that is very costly. The Wards Rd. corridor is a complete mess. The road should have been widened before all of this growth occurred. Keep developing the mountain, keep building apartments in Liberty Ridge and in Cornerstone, and in Campbell County near the future LUCOM, or at Wards Crossing West, but stay away from Wards Rd.

[logic]

When I lived off campus, I always wanted a parking garage. Now that I live in Boston and drive in to the city all the time, I completely understand what Chancellor Falwell is saying. I would have killed myself before trying to park in a parking garage at LU.

Your mentioning of Boston sparked an idea.

1. As per "The Big Dig," why not convince the state (we'll pay for it) to put 460 into a tunnel? We could build over top of the highway and "unite" East with main campus. Imagine the prime building spaces that we could make and the parking lots we could have. It is an eyesore to have a 4 lane highway running through campus anyhow.

2. A completely illogical and somewhat impossible idea would be to buy up all of the Wards road commercial lots, one by one (Candlers Station style), and then raze everything and turn it into a Wyndhurst / Cornerstone community of planned living and small style commercial lots. This would require a rezoning from the city but would allow for 10,000 students to walk a short distance to campus.


Imagine apartments where all of the big box retailers are. Imagine had the city zoned wards residential or low density mixed use back in the day. As much as I love Liberty, I do hate the fact that we're bordered by an atrocious commercial center of snarling traffic and a railroad. I don't mind the mountain but hate that a major highway runs through it all.

Let's tunnel the tracks while we're at it too.

the big dig was the worst road project ever. it is falling apart, and though it has helped traffic flow in boston, it is still not excellent and traffic problems still exist. i have no problem with 460 running through campus. JMU is the same way, but the land is maintained much better. I would love to see the area landscaped better, but i know that is very costly. The Wards Rd. corridor is a complete mess. The road should have been widened before all of this growth occurred. Keep developing the mountain, keep building apartments in Liberty Ridge and in Cornerstone, and in Campbell County near the future LUCOM, or at Wards Crossing West, but stay away from Wards Rd.

It pains me deeply to hear that you have no problem with a highway running through the middle of our campus. To say it is an eyesore and an obstacle to growth is an understatement. I am not sure what is worse, not having a problem with the highway, or justifying its existence by comparing us to James Madison....tell me about a big-time state school that has a highway through campus? Let us not compare ourselves to James Madison of all schools!!!

[flamehunter]

So what you are saying is that Dr. Falwell was short sighted by putting the campus where he did.

[adam42381]

It pains me deeply to hear that you have no problem with a highway running through the middle of our campus. To say it is an eyesore and an obstacle to growth is an understatement. I am not sure what is worse, not having a problem with the highway, or justifying its existence by comparing us to James Madison....tell me about a big-time state school that has a highway through campus? Let us not compare ourselves to James Madison of all schools!!!

Liberty isn't a state school. Also, what's wrong with JMU?

[logic]

It pains me deeply to hear that you have no problem with a highway running through the middle of our campus. To say it is an eyesore and an obstacle to growth is an understatement. I am not sure what is worse, not having a problem with the highway, or justifying its existence by comparing us to James Madison....tell me about a big-time state school that has a highway through campus? Let us not compare ourselves to James Madison of all schools!!!

Liberty isn't a state school. Also, what's wrong with JMU?

Of course Liberty isn't a state school. But that is the kind of school we want to become (academically and athletically). JMU is a regional state school, has always been, and will always be. We want to be a top national university, on the same page with big-time state schools with regards to academics and athletics. We should not then compare ourselves to JMU!!!!

So what you are saying is that Dr. Falwell was short sighted by putting the campus where he did.

He didn't really have a choice did he?

[flamehunter]

OK. So complain about it all you want but what can be done about it? It is what it is. Short of moving the school to Macon, I think they are doing well at making use of the land they've got.

[bigsmooth]

do you realize the cost of what you are are dreaming of? its a wonderful idea, but its not needed. our campus is looking better every day and using JMU as an example was correct. the highway landscape does look better there on I-81 than 460. also LU is not a big time school...yet. JMU is a fine school so get off your high horse. Their football team is dang sure better than ours,and quite frankly academically they are better so we should compare ourselves to them to get better, which in time we will. you are the only one here crying about an "eyesore".

[Cider Jim]

JMU = Just Missed UVa

And, for the record, I LOVE our campus!

[bigsmooth]

haha.jim! good stuff!!

[Purple Haize]

I like our set up. Seeing all the buildings on 460 is impressive. I like that we have most of the housing on one side and everything else on the other. The only problem is the frappin Candlers Mtn exit West Bound and the exit eastbound in the AM. Not sure how putting a canopy over 460 alleviates that.

[Cider Jim]

I like that we have most of the housing on one side and everything else on the other.

Exactly! It's like living OFF campus ON campus.

Plus, those on East have their own pool, movie theater, restaurant, gym, and tunnel.

[bigsmooth]

Frappin.....thanks RD

[Purple Haize]

I like that we have most of the housing on one side and everything else on the other.

Exactly! It's like living OFF campus ON campus.

Plus, those on East have their own pool, movie theater, restaurant, gym, and tunnel.

That's my only problem. Why is it called East when it is SOUTH of an E/W highway?