[Sly Fox]

Since we gave the Steelers their adulation int he opther thread, I felt it only fair to give you the following story from Baptist Press on both teams:

Motor City Super Bowl gives players & coaches faith platform ...

Jan 30, 2006
By Art Stricklin
Baptist Press
EDITORS’ NOTE: Sportswriter Art Stricklin, in his third year of BP coverage of the spiritual side of the Super Bowl, will be reporting this week from the site of Super Bowl XL in Detroit.


DETROIT (BP)--While snow and temperatures in the 20s and 30s are predicted in the days leading up to Super Bowl XL in the Motor City, a number of players from the NFC Champion Seattle Seahawks and the AFC Champion Pittsburgh Steelers hope to heat up the week with their testimonies for Jesus Christ.

“I’ve told the Christian players that a Super Bowl ring won’t be worth what a testimony to Jesus in public will be this week,” longtime Steelers chaplain Jay Wilson said. “These players are excited to speak about their faith in Him if they get a chance.”

Several marquee players from both sides -- Shawn Alexander and Matt Hasselback from Seattle and Pittsburgh’s Antwaan Randle El and Ben Roethlisberger, with the famous PFJ (Play for Jesus) tape on his shoes -- should have ample chances to talk about their faith.

The last two NFL championship games in Houston and Jacksonville were safely inside the Bible belt, with Southern Baptist volunteers involved in an array of committees and activities. But this year’s contest in wintry Michigan, closer to Canada than any Baptist strongholds, represents a different challenge, giving the players themselves and the fans more of a Christian impact.

“Every city’s dynamics are different,” said Tim Knopps, a sports ministry consultant with the North American Mission Board and evangelist based in Oklahoma. “We’re flying more under the radar here. We don’t have as much relationship with the host committee as we have in the past, but we are still working at getting the word out.”

Bobby Gilstrap, a Detroit-area associational director of missions, said it can be a great time for people of faith to share their love for God and for football via the most-watched sporting event of the year, with 1 billion worldwide expected to tune in for Sunday’s game.

“It’s a great opportunity for us to share around the game, and several of our Baptist churches are doing that with watching parties and the Super Bowl of caring programs. We don’t have the size churches you have in the South, but we want to make sure it’s not a lost opportunity for some.”

The week’s activities include the annual Super Bowl media day on Tuesday, when more than 3,000 journalists from around the world will descend on downtown Detroit’s Ford Field, site of Sunday’s Seahawks-Steelers match up, to fire questions at players and coaches over an hour-long period.

Both teams’ Christian players see the media session as a special opportunity.

“I have told our Christian guys that they will have a chance to speak about their faith if they find the right forum,” said Seattle team chaplain Karl Payne, an ordained Baptist minister who pastors Antioch Bible Church in a Seattle suburb.

“We have some very dedicated and articulate players and coaches who I think could be excellent in sharing what is most important to them. I promise if anybody says something controversial, it will get out, so why shouldn’t God’s Word get out as well?” Payne said.

Both head coaches in the Super Bowl XL matchup, Seattle’s Mike Holmgren and Pittsburgh’s Bill Cowher, are believers in Jesus Christ and are supporters of their team’s chaplain programs.

The Seattle coach went so far as to ask Payne to accompany the team not only in the home locker room but also on the road for spiritual guidance. Payne and his wife will be on the official team plane bringing wives and family members to Detroit later this week.

“I have a very good situation in Seattle and some very good players,” Payne said. “I think they are eager for this kind of spotlight to share their faith.”

Cowher, meanwhile, is a regular at the Steelers team chapel, which Wilson has led for the last 11 years.

Cowher is leading the Steelers to their first title game in 10 years, when they lost Super Bowl XXX to the Dallas Cowboys, 27-17. Holmgren, who coached the Green Bay Packers to a win in Super Bowl XXXI, is leading the Seahawks into their first-ever title game.

Other faith-based events during the week include a special luncheon honoring Christian believers and Fox TV announcers Pat Summerall and James Brown. Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy is expected to speak in honor of the duo. The annual Super Bowl Gospel Celebration will take place Friday night at the historic birthplace of Motown gospel, Detroit’s Masonic Lodge, with several players expected to give their testimony to the sold-out crowd.

The annual Athletes in Action breakfast Saturday morning at the NFL headquarters hotel will include the awarding of the Bart Starr Award for the athlete who best exhibits qualities of character in professional football.

The Detroit Convoy of Hope will take place Saturday afternoon as Detroit-area churches provide food to those in need at local housing projects.

The game itself will take center stage on Sunday afternoon, but those who have been working hard to prepare for this week will be looking for the real winner for a long time to come.

“We will still have Christian vendors passing out tracts in the souvenirs bags and still do some street witnessing,” Knopps said. “The key for this week is getting the Word out and sharing with the people.”

[bigsmooth]

great article and find sly. it is awesome to see players and coaches show their faith.

[LUconn]

Have you guys heard that Bettis is from Detroit? Crazy.

[Sly Fox]

Yeah, and apparently the Steelers had to win a road game or two to get to the Super Bowl. Oh, and the Seahawks must've never gone to the Big Game before. Who knew?

[RubberMallet]

i haven't watch espn in a week....its actually been nice

i think either team really has a decent shot at winning....i just can't understand why noone, i mean no one is giving the seahawks love. They dominated all year even being in a weak division. the only ? they have is special teams...

Pitt is on a roll but they barely made it to the playoffs after beating 4 weak, weak teams the last quarter of the season....they are beatable.

[Sly Fox]

Here's more from BP's coverage of the Super Bowl:

Super Bowl players tell the world's media of their faith . . .

Feb 1, 2006
By Art Stricklin
Baptist Press
EDITORS' NOTE: Sportswriter Art Stricklin, in his third year of BP coverage of the spiritual side of the Super Bowl, will be reporting this week from the site of Super Bowl XL in Detroit.


DETROIT (BP)--While former Chicago Bears quarterback Jim McMahon once got media attention for writing offbeat messages on his headband during Super Bowl week, Pittsburg strong safety Troy Polamalu plans his own method of expression during Sunday's championship contest, even if it will never be seen by the millions watching in TV on in person.

He will be wearing his simple, silver wedding ring under his black gloves as he goes about his defensive exploits against the Seattle Seahawks.

"I don't think we put any value on marriage any longer in our country and, to me, the wedding band is a symbol of my wedding bond with my wife [Theodora] and my bond with God," Polamalu said during the Super Bowl media day Jan. 31.

He was one of several Steelers happy to talk about their faith in Christ to the assembled worldwide media at Detroit's Ford Field, the site of Sunday's championship game.

Wide receiver Antwaan Randle El eagerly surveyed the chaotic media scene of hundreds of journalists with notepads in hand, dozens of video cameramen and countless live radio interviews being conducted. Then he gave his assessment of the proceedings:

"People think this game may go down in history, but it's really only temporary. I thank God that I am here, but I know I have to ask Him for guidance because I didn't know what to expect....

"I can't let this game get me too high or too low," El said. "I have to stay focused on God and stay focused on His word."

Steelers starting center Jeff Hartings, a former Detroit Lion who was nervous being a favorite target of local media welcoming home a former player, said his faith in God extended even into the media session.

"I've been praying every day that I would honor Him and I'm praying now that I don't embarrass Him during this time," Hartings said. "I want to give Him His praise all the time and use this time as a platform not for me, but for Him."

Hartings accompanied Steelers chaplain Jay Wilson on a mission trip in 2004 and said that trip, along with the knee injury he overcame to gain his Pro Bowl status, has changed his career.

"God humbled me with the injury, but over last three years I've been able to refocus on Him and honor Him with my play. Every year, I just take it one step at a time if He wants me to continue to play. That's the way it's been lately for me and the way it should continue to be," Hartings said.

"I just want to be a Christian man giving Him the glory. That's my plan for this game."

Steelers fullback Dan Kreider said the familiar routine of daily prayer times with his wife over the phone and morning Bible reading in an unfamiliar city is helping him overcome temptations connected with the Super Bowl.

"There certainly is a lot of temptations here with parties and women and things we know we shouldn't be a part of," Kreider said. "It keeps you humble when you can pray over the phone every night with your wife or spend time at the team Bible study.

Offensive tackle Max Starks said the annual media gathering, which drew more than 3,000 participants, was seen as a God-given opportunity to the Christian Steelers players, not a hindrance.

"I'm just a tool from God and this life is just a test from Him," Starks said. "God has given the Christian guys a world stage in this big game and promises us a reward in the end. You have the opportunity to use your faith in everyday conversation. That's what we need to be doing."

Polamalu has been nicknamed the Tasmanian Devil for his frenetic on-field defensive style, but didn't hesitate to use his opportunity to promote his faith as a key to success.

"Keep God No. 1 in your life all the time," he said in response to an ESPN Argentina reporter who asked how his soccer-mad country could be successful in American football as well.

Former Philadelphia Eagles offensive lineman Barrett Brooks, who is in his 10th year in the NFL but only his third with the Steelers, said the constant shifting of players among teams has made it difficult when Christian brothers face each other on the football field.

"You know a lot of Christian guys in this league, but we just have to keep strong for Him and give God the time He deserves," Brooks said.

"God will have His will regardless of what we seek on the field," he said.

With less than five days to go before the final showdown between the Steelers and Seahawks, there will be plenty of time to talk, scheme and study every possible way to defeat the opposition.

But for a number of the players, their focus is on more than just a three-hour encounter.

"This [Super Bowl] is big to the world," Hartings said. "But I have to separate myself, give God the glory and honor He deserves. Give my best on the field on Sunday and off of it every other day."

[bigsmooth]

you play who is on the schedule. the seahawks are a very good team that played in a waek division, but that too is not a pont, b/c they played who was on their schedule too. you will get no excuses from me on what a good team they are. it should be a fantastic game.

[Agent2Be]

Sly - thanks for the postings. I follow the Steelers daily here, and I had no idea that there was a stong Christian contingent on the team (shame on me). God Bless all the athletes participating in the Super Bowl. I am looking forward to a great game!

[Sly Fox]

The general media doesn't have an interest in promoting anything other than themselves and the game. So they tend to avoid any references to Christianity. I work in an unusual environment where my Sports Director and the other two Sports Producers all happen to be Christians. So we let some things on the air that the other stations would never use.

BP does a nice job of being a forum for some of these athletes to share their testimonies.

[Sly Fox]

Here's more for you Steeler fans:

Seattle coaches prep team for
more than Super Bowl victory
By Art Stricklin

EDITORS' NOTE: Sportswriter Art Stricklin, in his third year of BP
coverage of the spiritual side of the Super Bowl, is reporting this week
from the site of Super Bowl XL in Detroit.


DETROIT (BP)--Seattle fans, players and assistant coaches are counting on
Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren to work his Super Bowl magic, having
led the Green Bay Packers to an NFL title in the '90s.

Facing the favored Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday afternoon at Ford Field in
downtown Detroit, Holmgren said he is counting on a different kind of
power to make it through another crazy Super Bowl week: his personal
faith in Jesus Christ.

"If I didn't have a foundation in my faith with Christ to keep me through
the high and lows of this week and every week, this job it would be very
hard," he said during the Jan. 31 media day.

"My faith gives you a perspective and that's the most important thing in
this job," he shared.

Holmgren's eternal perspective allowed him to send his wife Kathy and one
of their four daughters on a medical mission trip with Northwest Medical
Team, a Portland-based group this week to Africa, where they will be
during Sunday's championship game with Pittsburgh.

"My wife has been there before [on a mission trip] and my daughter is a
nurse so they will enjoy it more. It's more important."

More important than the Super Bowl? That's the ultimate message Holmgren
subtly sought to spread to the disbelieving media.

While not outspoken about his faith when talking about football matters,
Holmgren said he is happy to share the reason for his success with anyone
who asks and the reason for the team's surprising post-season success.

"I've always said this [job] would be hard without my faith," the head
coach said.

Defensive line coach Zerick Rollins said Holmgren is good about setting
the tone for the team's preparation for Sunday's big game or any game.

"My faith in God is first in everything I do. It doesn't matter if it's
the Super Bowl or a preseason game," Rollins said. "You have to prepare
to do your job and do it well, but the first thing you do is give God
praise because He deserves it."

Running backs coach Stump Mitchell has seen the high and lows of the NFL
as a player with the St. Louis Cardinals and a coach for the last seven
years with the Seahawks. As a Christian leader on the coaching staff, he
knows this can be a tough week for his team.

"We have a lot of mountains to climb and a lot of temptations to face,
but our faith puts it all in perspective.

"This," Mitchell said of the Super Bowl, "is a small issue to God."

After helping coach his team to the NFC Championship over Charlotte Jan.
22, putting the Seahawks in their first-ever Super Bowl, Mitchell said
God quickly stepped in to show him the real importance of his life.

"When I came off the field, I found out I lost my father who had been
sick and passed," Mitchell said somberly. "This is just a game, but life
goes on regardless. This is all secondary to Christ."

To make sure Seattle is ready for its first Super Bowl game, the Seahawks
coaches and players have been through seemingly endless meetings and
drills to go over the attack they expect to see from Pittsburgh on
Sunday.

But Mitchell said the Christian players and coaches likely will have a
more important meeting this week in Detroit.

"We will have a share time with just players and coaches when we all get
together. That's a good part of our schedule."

As a Christian coach, Mitchell said he never forgets to remind players of
the blessings they enjoy on the field and off.

"They should enjoy the blessings of being a professional athlete but
remember they are a role model at all times. We are instruments for Him
on the field and off. That's the most important lesson they can learn."

[bigsmooth]

not the most exciting game, but as a steeler fan it was awesome. i know the officiating was not great and many say it cost the seahawks the game, but they had opportunities to make plays and did not. pittsburgh overcame officiating in the playoffs, so that excuse does nothing for me. i am truly happy that the bus went out in style, and that cowher finally got a ring. and for MVP hines ward, it could not go to a more classy, hard-working guy. we got one for the thumb baby! GO STEELERS!

[PAmedic]

for me, I was as impressed w/ that game as SLY was w/ Penn State's bowl win. Probably the worst SB I've seen in 15 years. SLOPPY play by both sides- other than the great 75 yard TD run off the right side- NO real offense by Pittsburgh, Seattle controlled the ball all day and the refs decided they had an issue w/ that, evidently.

to be consistent, I never did see what the hype was w/ Seattle, never impressed me. Looking forward to next fall for college FB.

[PAmedic]

Seahawks won everything but the game

In case the football fans of the Pacific Northwest aren't sick enough in the aftermath of the big game, they may want to know that no Super Bowl loser has ever dominated a title game like the Seahawks did on Sunday.

I was so sure that Seattle's edge in total yards, time of possession and takeaways in a losing effort was unprecedented that I scoured all 39 previous Super Bowl box scores to prove it. Yep, just as I suspected, no losing team had ever matched the Seahawks' trifecta. Quite a few teams had won the time of possession battle and lost. A handful had put up more total yards and lost. And a couple had even won the turnover battle and lost. But no team had ever done all three and come away with an L.

This was a historic, first-of-its-kind Super Bowl loss. I don't want to take anything away from the Steelers, except, of course, the Lombardi Trophy.

Seattle outgained Pittsburgh 396 yards to 339. Only five times in Super Bowl history had the loser gained more yards than the victor. And only twice — in Joe Montana's first win over the Bengals and Tom Brady's first win over the Rams — had a team been outgained as badly as the Steelers and won. (I guess this bodes well for Ben Roethlisberger.) But in both those victories, the Niners and Patriots had been +3 in the turnover battle. Pittsburgh was -1. More on that later.

Seattle had the ball for over 33 minutes, building a large time of possession edge as Pittsburgh failed to get a first down in the game's opening 19 minutes. While 10 teams have won the time-of-possession battle and lost the Super Bowl, only four losers surpassed the Seahawks' 6:04 edge in possession. And only twice in the history of the big game had a team gained more yards and led in time of possession and lost. Brady's Patriots were not only outgained by the Rams, but Kurt Warner's quick-strike attack actually held the ball for seven more minutes than New England. The lone other time this statistical quirk occurred was when Pittsburgh lost to Dallas in Super Bowl XXX. So maybe Sunday was a kind of karmic payback for the Steelers, who outgained the Cowboys 310-254 and held the ball for 7:38 more than Dallas in 1996.

Of course that loss was marked by the fact that Neil O'Donnell kept throwing the ball to Larry Brown. The Steelers were -3 in turnovers in that loss to the Cowboys, just as the Rams were against the Patriots.

Winning the turnover battle has been the single best harbinger of victory in Super Bowl history. Only twice prior to Sunday had a team given the ball away more than it had taken it away and yet still taken home the trophy.

In Super Bowl V — the ugliest Super Bowl of all time — the Cowboys managed to lose to the Colts despite a +3 edge in turnovers. The game featured a record 11 turnovers, an astounding seven by the somehow victorious Colts. Dallas also had a slight edge in possession (+2:46), but Baltimore had a substantial — 329-215 — edge in total yards.

The only other time the turnover winner had lost was in Super Bowl XIV when the Steelers overcame three Terry Bradshaw interceptions and a -2 turnover deficit to beat the Rams and win their fourth championship (one for the pinkie?). Despite the three picks, Bradshaw was named MVP because he threw for 309 yards as Pittsburgh compiled a 393-301 edge in total yards.

So the only two times a team had coughed the ball up more than its opponent and won the Super Bowl, it did so by handily outgaining the loser. But turning the ball over more while being outgained? Surely Roethlisberger's two interceptions to Matt Hasselbeck's one would sink the Steelers.

Not on Sunday. Super Bowl XL was the perfect storm for stormy Seattle. The Seahawks moved the ball better than the Steelers. They kept the ball longer than the Steelers. They held onto the ball more securely than the Steelers. They had six more first downs than the Steelers (20-14), a feat surpassed only twice by losing teams in SB history.

And yet the Seahawks lost.

Seattle fans have a right to feel sick. Their team just suffered the most unjust loss in Super Bowl history.

I'm guessing knowing that the previous 25 teams to gain more yards, keep the ball longer and not lose the turnover battle all won the Super Bowl won't make them feel any better.

[PAmedic]

Roethlisberger admits: 'I don't think I got in'

Before David Letterman got to shave Ben Roethlisberger's beard Monday night, he got the Steelers' Super Bowl-winning quarterback to admit a little something that might rankle Seahawks fans even more.

Roethlisberger told Letterman that he didn't think he scored on a controversial play in the second quarter that put the Steelers ahead for good 7-3. Roethlisberger dove toward the end zone but didn't appear to get the ball to touch the goal line. But officials on the field signaled touchdown.
"I told Coach, 'I don't think I got in,'" Roethlisberger told Letterman. "But we were getting ready to go for it on fourth down anyway, and I would have run it again. So we would have found a way to get in."

The play infuriated Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren and has provided Seattle fans plenty of fodder for their fury over the game's questionable calls.

Referee Bill Leavy upheld the call after a replay review, and Holmgren then upbraided Leavy on his way off the field at halftime.

Holmgren walked over to Leavy, a fifth-year referee calling his first Super Bowl, and could be seen angrily telling him, "It wasn't even close."

Later on his Late Show appearance, the Pittsburgh quarterback got a shave from Letterman, finally ridding himself of the scraggly light brown facial hair he's been growing since the Steelers lost to Cincinnati in October.

"I was so mad that we lost the game," Roethlisberger told Letterman. "I kind of went into a depression and didn't shave and we ended up winning the next game. And I am kind of superstitious — just a little bit to people who know me — but we won that game and I said I am just going to keep it going until we lose and we kept it going.

"I don't really like the beard you know. But we were winning so I had to keep it going."

Letterman's deadpan reply, "Really? Honestly, I think it looks like a million bucks."

Roethlisberger became the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl, when the Steelers defeated the Seattle Seahawks 21-10 on Sunday night. He passed for 123 yards and ran for a touchdown.

"The worst part about winning the AFC championship game was that I had to keep (the beard) for two more weeks," he said. "I didn't want to do that."

After the interview, Letterman asked a woman from Pittsburgh who was in the audience to help him shave Roethlisberger.

"You want to take a little off?" Letterman asked the Steelers' fans.

[bigsmooth]

nothing worse than a big baby eagles fan. when you guys can FINALLY close the deal, then run some smack. the steelers won and that is the bottom line. by the official rule book those calls were correct, but there is plenty of gray area, and for holmgren still crying about the officials, well let it go walrus jr. better luck next year.

[PAmedic]

I knew you couldn't let that stuff slide!

(and I like the Walrus Jr line- thats darn funny!)

how 'bout dem' Hartford Whalers?

[LUconn]

they wish

[Agent2Be]

Super Bowl XL:

1. The Refs didn't give up the longest run in SB history...Seattle's defense did.
2. The Refs didn't bite on a 43 yd trick play, Randle to Ward for a TD...Seattle's defense did.
3. The Refs didn't allow Ben to scramble around on a 3rd and 28 and complete a long pass to the 2 yd. line...Seattle's defense did.
4. The Refs didn't miss two field goals, that was Seattle.
5. The Refs didn't fail to step out of bounds late in the 1st half to stop the clock in Pitt territory in a crunch time situation...Seattle's offense did.
6. The Refs didn't let the 1st half clock tick down from 48 seconds all the way down to 13 seconds before finally running their next play at Pitt's 36 yd line...Seattle's offense did.
7. And on this play, 3rd down, 53 yds away from a FG, it wasn't the Refs who tried and failed to go deep for a TD rather than a safer 5-7 yd play and timeout setting up a much easier FG attempt....that, again, would be Seattle's offense.
8. The Refs didn't get confused by Pitt's zone defense and throw an INT...that would be Seattle's QB.
9. The Refs didn't let a little physical contact intimidate them from catching 4 very catchable passes...that would be the Seattle TE Jeremy Stevens.
10. With approx. 20 seconds left in the game, knowing they need a TD and FG, in no particular order, and in easy FG range on 4th down, it wasn't the Refs who ignored the FG and elected to throw up a prayer trying for a TD...that AGAIN would be Seattle.

And for any 'hater' still feeling a little salty and reaching for excuses as to why the Steelers didn't deserve to win the Super Bowl ...

11. The Refs didn't constantly punt deep into the end zone, repeatedly giving Pitt the ball at the 20 yd line...that of course was Seattle.
12. It wasn't the Refs who received a Christmas gift wrapped easy INT lobbed in perfect position to return deep into Pitt territory...the lucky beneficiary of that break would be Seattle.
13. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when a Steeler DB dropped an easy int early in the game...that too would be a break for Seattle.
14. It wasn't the Refs who caught a break when a Steeler WR dropped a very catchable TD pass...that break again would go to Seattle.
15. It wasn't the scapegoat Refs that received a break when a WR caught the ball, turned, stepped, was hit hard enough to cause a fumble, and then ruled INCOMPLETE...that would be of course, another chance for Seattle.
(this was an interesting call considering that after Troy's famous overruled Int, the NFL stated that it WAS a catch. If so, than this definitely WAS a catch)
16. The Refs werent the ones who caught a break when at the conclusion of a 2nd qtr play, as a Pitt DE was walking away, the Seattle Center blindsided the defenseless player, leveling him to the ground. This mysteriously unseen crime was again another break for Seattle.
17. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when Pitt QB Big Ben was blocked in the back as he pursued the DB who he'd tossed an int to...that again would go to Seattle.
18. It wasn't the Refs who stopped Seattle RB Alexander in a few key situations. That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
19. It wasn't the Refs who converted many of their 3rd downs yet stopped their opponent on 3rd down often...that would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
20. And the very bottom line is this...On plays when there wasn't any penalties ...One team made plays and one team didn't.

The end result was the final score, 21-10.

To every Steeler hater out there I say, 'Get over it,' and learn to accept losing with a little grace, humility, and dignity. Perhaps you'll earn yourself some respect in doing so ....

What the Steelers accomplished this year as a #6 seed on the verge of elimination is nothing short of miraculous. Think about it, it's NEVER been done before in NFL history and may never be done again. This team was matched against the very best that the league had to offer .... on the road no less ... and we beat them all! Sorry, but there is nothing empty, tarnished, or undeserving about that .....


With that said, Congratulations to the

World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers

Welcome Home Lombardi Trophy!

[Agent2Be]

Cant take credit for the above post - it came from the Steelers message board.

[PAmedic]

well, now we have the point of view of 2 of the 11 known Pittsburgh fans out there. The rest of them from that side of the state have no teeth- can't speak, and can't read or write to post online, so we'll have to assume LUPitt speaks for them!

(congrats to you Iron City freaks, yada yada)

[Sly Fox]

All that said, it was rather tainted. But a tainted Lombardi Trophy is better than no Lombardi at all.

[bigsmooth]

tainted??? figures. you are unbelievable sly. there is no asterisk, they are the champs period. all you big whiny babies should get over it or go join holmgren in seattle, drink friggin starbucks, and read a NFL rule book.

[TallyW]

The Superbowl was 4 days ago. Lock this forum.

[PAmedic]

SMOOTHIE on a rampage tonite. First the LCA thread and now this! you must miss me, bro.

[bigsmooth]

i do miss you medic!!!! i just get so tired of the whining. people just need to realize the steelers are the champs and get over it. on sly's premise if you go back to the BCS title game, vine young's knee was clearly down when he scored, so take away that and they lose...so UT title's tainted. i have said my peace! all i need now is a scrap with HF abouth the hokies! wanna mediate medic?...BTW where the heck is HF lately???