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By dompennix
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You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
By GoUNCA
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Wow. I didn't really expect this at this point. Pretty ballsy on Seth's part. Especially after spending the year proving he throws up a lot of shots and can be shut down by "inferior" talent.

I (along with King, but less vocal) have been critical of Seth and Liberty for letting him have the green light to shoot constantly. It is a major cop out to blame the league. The last time I checked he didn't win the league. Also the last time I checked he choked it a few times in the Big South and almost every time he was on television. A bigger school will not let him ruin that many possessions. It certainly doesn't hurt the rest of the league, now we don't have hear about how he is the next messiah and then watch him shoot 20% from the floor. On a personal note I am glad that I no longer will have to view those cheap Lebron James knockoff banners on your posts. Losing Curry really shouldn't hurt you that much. I will say that losing both Curry and Brolin sucks.

I know most coaches have restrictions on releasing players. I know for a fact that one nameless UNCA coach will not release players to other Big South schools or to climb the league ladder. There are exceptions for family reasons and so forth, but Seth pretty much tried to blame the league, which would be against the before mentioned coaches' rule. (Note that I do not know the extent to which coaches can legally retain players).

Good Riddance, says I.
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By JMUDukes
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Seeing a lot of people with single digit or 1 posts ITT. I smell trolls.
By SuperJon
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dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
The only people doubting his ability are people who have all along.


The rest of us just think if he wants to start, it'll be mid-major at best. At an ACC school, he'll be a solid role player. There's nothing wrong with that, but solid role players don't make the NBA.
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By rueful
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i kinda hope his professors fail him. Our school is subpar right?

I dont think it was the right decision for him. I think it was an arrogant and prideful decision. If we had made it to the dance, and he had done more, then I could understand him saying it was too easy here. And Yeah, i dont mind being called a homer. It just means i have loyalty to my school. Loyalty to anything other than myself, really. Seth should check that out sometime.
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By Sly Fox
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Wow, I am exhausted playing catch-up on the last couple of hours of this thread. First off let me commend most of you for being civil and not getting personal per our forum rules. I also want to welcome all of the new posters who have come out of the woodwork today. Hopefully you'll stick around in the days ahead.

I fully understand why these events have caused such an emotional outcry. I have to admit when I first heard rumors of this a little over a week ago I was seriously taken aback. But perhaps since I have had a little longer than most of you to prepare for this moment I find myself not nearly as angry at Seth as most of you. While I disagree wholeheartedly with the premise of his decision to leave (for reasons I'll explain shortly), I also can appreciate him making a hard decision he feels will have a significant impact on his career. He feels this is in his best interests and since he is going to have to live with the consequences (whether they be good or bad) then I wish him the best in his endeavors wherever he lands. I have not stopped being a Seth fan because of this move but obviously I won't be anywhere near as passionate henceforth.

When a well esteemed member of our board (who shall remain nameless unless he cares to reveal himself) first approached me about this while I was in Lynchburg over a week ago, my initial thought was the case of Jason Conley. Mo can attest to how he had a similar impact at VMI leading the nation in scoring before feeling the need to transfer to a major conference in order to make the jump to the Association. Instead he became muddled in a Mizzou lineup and never really had the opportunity to shine. While I am sure none of the Currys foresee a similar fate for Seth it certainly is a distinct possibility and quite a gamble. Sometimes being at a mid-major where you can be the featured scorer gives you a distinct advantage over having to share the load at a major.

And in defense of the Currys, when Seth signed with us a year and a half ago Stephen was coming off of his freshman season before his profile skyrocketed last May in that incredible tourney run. At that point they had no way of knowing what the NBA scouts would think of Stephen coming out of the SoCon. Clearly they have been questioned hard about his level of competition and perhaps Dell felt he didn't want his youngest son to have to face the same questions when his time arrived. From of father's perspective, I don't have a problem with that mindset. I certainly have made adjustments in raising my two girls based on the experiences of my oldest son. I am sure that the Currys had every intention of Seth playing all of his college days in Lynchburg when he signed. But there has been a ton of water under the bridge.

I also believe we need to give credit to Coach McKay for not trashing Seth as he heads out the door. It would be easy to get nasty when you feel jilted. He has shown nothing but class today and that is why we are fortunate to have him leading our squad.

In conclusion, I am disappointed in this transfer not only because I would've loved to have seen three more years of Seth in Liberty gear but also because I feel this could be bad for his career. I don't see any winners in this move but I understand what the Currys are attempting. At the same time, I remain excited for what we have in store the next few years at Liberty. Seth's presence helped us in both last year's recruiting class and this year as well. He gave LU fans a year they won't soon forget. Let's not dismiss those memories just to appease our inner animosity in the midst of the moment.
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By prototype
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dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
we're homers??? You have brought up several times that you are talking to him - does that make you a groupie. People hating him? he made his bed...
By Sura
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JMUDukes wrote:Seeing a lot of people with single digit or 1 posts ITT. I smell trolls.
499 posts... you have a lot of time on your hands
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By kingaling42
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dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
Ummm... Do you think that Greg Paulus is going to the NBA anytime soon??? I mean if there's a waterboy spot.. then maybe.. Otherwise I believe you captured spot on the type of NBA career that's in store for Seth- i.e. it is not going to happen.. Also- I've bashed "Baby Jesus" in a ton of posts this year-
By JMUDukes
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Sura wrote:
JMUDukes wrote:Seeing a lot of people with single digit or 1 posts ITT. I smell trolls.
499 posts... you have a lot of time on your hands
okay... :lol: at least I'm not a troll.
By TheLouder
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dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
He made the choice now he has to live with the consequences. Do us all a favor and quit with the high school "he said this" crap.
By Sura
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The only people doubting his ability are people who have all along.
Most Preposterous statements uttered....
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By UNCA Alum
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dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
So he's going to Duke?
By Hold My Own
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dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.

Well everyone on campus might be hating him but everyone on here isnt! Not sure what you're talking about Dom...everyone on here is being very respectful and saying things like "no ill will" heck 3 fans from other schools are talking about how this is being handled with class
By SuperJon
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Dom, you have to see where some of us are coming from as well. I don't mean to patronize you at all, but we have a different connection to this school than you do. Right now, you're just a fan. That's great. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. You just haven't gone through the same stuff and have the same experiences as people on here that have gone to Liberty and been apart of that. I hope you get to do that in a couple of years when you graduate high school and enjoy every minute of it, but the fact that many of us have graduated from or are currently attended (or both) Liberty gives us a different perspective.
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By flamesfilmguy
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TheLouder wrote:
dompennix wrote:You guys are the biggest homers. If Seth would have stayed you would be praising him but now you are putting down everything he did. I'm talking to him right now and he said he feels bad enough because everyone on campous is hating him right now. He made the right decision like it or not. I think he could succeed. Honestly if Greg Paulus had a good career, Seth can have a good career.
He made the choice now he has to live with the consequences. Do us all a favor and quit with the high school "he said this" crap.
haha but thats exactly what it is! High school crap!
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By jcmanson
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SuperJon wrote:Right now, you're just a fan. That's great. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
To be honest, I wish we had more
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By jcmanson
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Sly Fox wrote:When a well esteemed member of our board (who shall remain nameless unless he cares to reveal himself) first approached me about this while I was in Lynchburg over a week ago,
It was me, it was me. Thank you, thank you...
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By flamesfilmguy
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jcmanson wrote:
SuperJon wrote:Right now, you're just a fan. That's great. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
To be honest, I wish we had more
+2
By BracketBusters
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any idea where he is heading? man that sucks...
By SuperJon
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jcmanson wrote:
SuperJon wrote:Right now, you're just a fan. That's great. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
To be honest, I wish we had more
I agree completely. That's why I wanted to point out it was a great thing.


The truth is, it seems like a bad break up. Things are going along, one side thinks it's going great while the other isn't happy but is faking it. Then they go home for a while, see how different things could be after the break up, come back to school and break up, blindsiding the other side. It's the basis of half the breakups at Liberty. Eventually we might be able to be friends but for right now it hurts.
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By bozlady
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Hey, anyone hear from Scar?? Haven't heard from him.
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By rueful
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yeah. Liberty really is a unique situation unlike anything else. When a kid wants to transfer from a UNC or even a VCU its one thing. But theres a little more to it when they leave Liberty. And not just with seth, with any of the other transfers the last few years. Some of them alluded to the fact that it was too strict. Thats fine, Liberty is not for everybody, in the same sense VMI is not for everybody. But seth basically said LU and the Big South arent capable of my talents. Huuge difference. I think the only person not handling this in the way they should, really, is seth. he didnt have to word it the way he worded it. Heck, I would have respected him more had he said "I want to go to a school less strict. The Liberty Way is too tough for me"

Alot of people choose colleges because they are fans of them, or their parents went their. But a good majority of people choose LU because of what we stand for. When someone comes in for a year saying "yeah, right there with you" and then decides its not good enough, it kind of stings. As others have said, seth can be upset that everyone on campus hates him, he should be upset at that, but he did it to himself. I think Rashad Jennings needs to give this kid a call and try and smack (and or tackle) some sense into him.

My dad (who was Worthingtons right hand guy in the 70's) and I were talking about this today and he was talking about some guy who played 2nd base who had the option to transfer to some other big name school who was top in the nation, and before he did it, Jerry got a hold of him and convinced him to stay. He eventually did get drafted. I dont remember the name of that guy, but maybe someone on here does
By JMUDukes
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Sura wrote:
The only people doubting his ability are people who have all along.
Most Preposterous statements uttered....
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By bozlady
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rueful wrote:yeah. Liberty really is a unique situation unlike anything else. When a kid wants to transfer from a UNC or even a VCU its one thing. But theres a little more to it when they leave Liberty. And not just with seth, with any of the other transfers the last few years. Some of them alluded to the fact that it was too strict. Thats fine, Liberty is not for everybody, in the same sense VMI is not for everybody. But seth basically said LU and the Big South arent capable of my talents. Huuge difference. I think the only person not handling this in the way they should, really, is seth. he didnt have to word it the way he worded it. Heck, I would have respected him more had he said "I want to go to a school less strict. The Liberty Way is too tough for me"

Alot of people choose colleges because they are fans of them, or their parents went their. But a good majority of people choose LU because of what we stand for. When someone comes in for a year saying "yeah, right there with you" and then decides its not good enough, it kind of stings. As others have said, seth can be upset that everyone on campus hates him, he should be upset at that, but he did it to himself. I think Rashad Jennings needs to give this kid a call and try and smack (and or tackle) some sense into him.

My dad (who was Worthingtons right hand guy in the 70's) and I were talking about this today and he was talking about some guy who played 2nd base who had the option to transfer to some other big name school who was top in the nation, and before he did it, Jerry got a hold of him and convinced him to stay. He eventually did get drafted. I dont remember the name of that guy, but maybe someone on here does
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