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thepostman wrote:I don't think forcing Jeff out was the right move but I'm not shocked by it. Like someone else said the major sports have trended downward and the goal of FBS was not accomplished in 10 years. There are plenty of reasons why the FBS thing didn't happen but the fact remains it didn't.
I don't like it but I understand it. With that said I have zero trust that Jerry will make a good hire.
That's been my knock on JB. He was hired because of connections to get LU to FBS. Apparently those connections were not as advertised.
He really didn't do much fund raising. The Capital projects were funded by LUO
He hired and fired some coaches. Just like any other AD would have done.
I'm sure he's a nice component guy but .....
He handled the politics about as well as anyone could. He definitely had faults. Not getting to FBS was not one of them.
thepostman wrote:I don't think forcing Jeff out was the right move but I'm not shocked by it. Like someone else said the major sports have trended downward and the goal of FBS was not accomplished in 10 years. There are plenty of reasons why the FBS thing didn't happen but the fact remains it didn't.
I don't like it but I understand it. With that said I have zero trust that Jerry will make a good hire.
That's been my knock on JB. He was hired because of connections to get LU to FBS. Apparently those connections were not as advertised.
He really didn't do much fund raising. The Capital projects were funded by LUO
He hired and fired some coaches. Just like any other AD would have done.
I'm sure he's a nice component guy but .....
He handled the politics about as well as anyone could. He definitely had faults. Not getting to FBS was not one of them.
But that was WHY he was hired. He didn't produce.
The Politics IS a minefield but he had it easy early on. I'm sure it's gotten more difficult lately
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Your version of why he was hired is different from what I remember.
I thought he was hired because he was a great fundraiser. Remember, we were still in tons of debt when he got hired. Then Doc's life insurance got us out of the hole and online took off so fundraising wasn't as needed.
Jonathan Carone wrote:Your version of why he was hired is different from what I remember.
I thought he was hired because he was a great fundraiser. Remember, we were still in tons of debt when he got hired. Then Doc's life insurance got us out of the hole and online took off so fundraising wasn't as needed.
He didn't do any fundraising. All major donations came from The Mansion. He led 0 Capital Campaigns
But that goes back to Politics. The University jealously guards revenue streams.
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Couple thoughts:
I really respected JB. He did a fantastic job while he was at Liberty and I cannot say enough good things about him. Both from my experience from within the department and as an alum from afar.
I hope this doesn't effect Mickey. He is the best of the best and truly the salt of the earth. I have a lot of admiration for him and hope he is able to stay on the mountain.
I wonder if this effects Jay and his commitment?
Good ADs are not like good coaches. They are much more difficult to find, so this could have very harsh implications for Liberty athletics as a whole.
Does Gill "resign" Friday morning or Monday?
I really hope Jr. knows what he is doing.
Also, when I said "heads will role" for the loss against CSU, I had no idea that would start with JB. Sad to see him go.
Chris Lang wrote:Mickey was the guy holding everything together when Thom Park was let go, so I think he'll be fine.
He's handled things for years. He was who I was referring to earlier. But I am not allowed to use his name.
The BIGGEST mistake LU Athletics could made would be letting the new AD replace him.
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Jonathan Carone wrote:Your version of why he was hired is different from what I remember.
I thought he was hired because he was a great fundraiser. Remember, we were still in tons of debt when he got hired. Then Doc's life insurance got us out of the hole and online took off so fundraising wasn't as needed.
He didn't do any fundraising. All major donations came from The Mansion. He led 0 Capital Campaigns
But that goes back to Politics. The University jealously guards revenue streams.
I'm not disagreeing on the actual fundraising happening. That's one of the reasons he and Jerry didn't get along. I just thought he was hired for different reasonings.
Chris Lang wrote:Mickey was the guy holding everything together when Thom Park was let go, so I think he'll be fine.
He's handled things for years. He was who I was referring to earlier. But I am not allowed to use his name. The BIGGEST mistake LU Athletics could made would be letting the new AD replace him.
This is why I brought up Mickey in the first place. I hope this doesn't happen.
Jonathan Carone wrote:Your version of why he was hired is different from what I remember.
I thought he was hired because he was a great fundraiser. Remember, we were still in tons of debt when he got hired. Then Doc's life insurance got us out of the hole and online took off so fundraising wasn't as needed.
He didn't do any fundraising. All major donations came from The Mansion. He led 0 Capital Campaigns
But that goes back to Politics. The University jealously guards revenue streams.
I'm not disagreeing on the actual fundraising happening. That's one of the reasons he and Jerry didn't get along. I just thought he was hired for different reasonings.
I was much closer to the Dept back then. The quote used once was 'We don't need someone who can raise money. We need someone with connections to the next level'
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Purple Haize wrote:I was much closer to the Dept back then. The quote used once was 'We don't need someone who can raise money. We need someone with connections to the next level'
I was a naive sophomore who believed press releases.
Bad move for you guys. Is Falwell, Jr. as big a jerk as he seems to be? I've heard through some family that a decent chunk of the faculty at LU have little use for him as well.
While we are at it, can y'all take Chuck back? Pretty please?
g-webb1994 wrote:Bad move for you guys. Is Falwell, Jr. as big a jerk as he seems to be? I've heard through some family that a decent chunk of the faculty at LU have little use for him as well.
While we are at it, can y'all take Chuck back? Pretty please?
Chuck was a great AD fit at LU. I don't think there is enough money in the world that he'd come back ha
Yes. Lots of Faculty have little use for JR. But don't speak that too loudly. He may be the next Secretary of Education!!!
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with the recent comments of Jr about playing FBS football in the matter of months, it could correlate with the firing of Barber. Maybe Jeff doesn't agree with taking the NCAA to court, forcing their hand for FBS indy. He's an athletic director that deals with the NCAA so it would all fall on him. I could totally be wrong.
i appreciate all of what Jeff has done like the facility upgrades and making Liberty more accessible but I feel like a lot of the teams have been average. Minus W Soccer, Track, Swimming, and Field hockey all of the sports have been underwhelmingly
bad/average.
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