When Should we Fire Layer?

When Should we Fire Layer?#473689

By flamesfan30 - January 9th, 2015, 8:42 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 8:42 pm #473689

When should we fire layer?

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Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473691

By JK37 - January 9th, 2015, 8:47 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 8:47 pm #473691

End of his contract. What's the harm in letting him finish?

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473696

By Purple Haize - January 9th, 2015, 9:36 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 9:36 pm #473696

We gave Karcher extra years

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473697

By jmmiii - January 9th, 2015, 9:45 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 9:45 pm #473697

I see these polls on here all the time. This is the first time I have felt strongly enough about the question to answer. We all know it's time.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473702

By g-webb1994 - January 9th, 2015, 9:55 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 9:55 pm #473702

Like I said in another thread, let him finish out the season. Firing him midseason would not settle well for prospective replacements.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473705

By lynchburgwildcats - January 9th, 2015, 10:12 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 10:12 pm #473705

JK37 wrote:End of his contract. What's the harm in letting him finish?

Once you realize the mistake, keeping the mistake longer just makes the mistake worse.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473707

By adam42381 - January 9th, 2015, 11:19 pm

- January 9th, 2015, 11:19 pm #473707

Let him finish the season then fire him.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473713

By VAGolf - January 10th, 2015, 12:13 am

- January 10th, 2015, 12:13 am #473713

What are we gaining from keeping him? Nothing. What do we gain from firing him? An extended coaching search. Fire him.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473716

By bluejacket - January 10th, 2015, 12:39 am

- January 10th, 2015, 12:39 am #473716

Let him finish the season. Then fire him.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473759

By flameshaw - January 10th, 2015, 7:15 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 7:15 pm #473759

After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473762

By adam42381 - January 10th, 2015, 7:32 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 7:32 pm #473762

flameshaw wrote:After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.

What has he done to deserve to stay until the end of the season? I agree he shouldn't be fired mid-season, but not because he's earned it.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473763

By SuperJon - January 10th, 2015, 7:32 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 7:32 pm #473763

adam42381 wrote:
flameshaw wrote:After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.
What has he done to deserve to stay until the end of the season? I agree he shouldn't be fired mid-season, but not because he's earned it.

Running a clean program that represents the school well.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473764

By adam42381 - January 10th, 2015, 7:37 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 7:37 pm #473764

Fair enough.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473768

By flameshaw - January 10th, 2015, 8:18 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 8:18 pm #473768

SuperJon wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
flameshaw wrote:After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.
What has he done to deserve to stay until the end of the season? I agree he shouldn't be fired mid-season, but not because he's earned it.
Running a clean program that represents the school well.

Yep.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473770

By Purple Haize - January 10th, 2015, 8:27 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 8:27 pm #473770

SuperJon wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
flameshaw wrote:After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.
What has he done to deserve to stay until the end of the season? I agree he shouldn't be fired mid-season, but not because he's earned it.
Running a clean program that represents the school well.

Other than that whole winning thing....

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473778

By flameshaw - January 10th, 2015, 8:51 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 8:51 pm #473778

Don't know what our current record is, but maybe our football team ends up with more wins than the BB team?

Would like to have the brown bag concession at the Vines.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473788

By Rooster Cogburn - January 10th, 2015, 11:12 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 11:12 pm #473788

SuperJon wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
flameshaw wrote:After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.
What has he done to deserve to stay until the end of the season? I agree he shouldn't be fired mid-season, but not because he's earned it.
Running a clean program that represents the school well.

EXACTLY!

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473791

By jcmanson - January 10th, 2015, 11:34 pm

- January 10th, 2015, 11:34 pm #473791

SuperJon wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
flameshaw wrote:After the season is over, he deserves that. A change now is not going to help anything.
What has he done to deserve to stay until the end of the season? I agree he shouldn't be fired mid-season, but not because he's earned it.
Running a clean program that represents the school well.

L O L

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473795

By Rooster Cogburn - January 11th, 2015, 12:24 am

- January 11th, 2015, 12:24 am #473795

I stand by my statement that he should and will get one more year. 9 New players, 1 left unexpectedly, 2 top players out, time left in contract, LU guy, etc.

I would also not be shocked if he's gone at the end of the year.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473797

By Purple Haize - January 11th, 2015, 12:34 am

- January 11th, 2015, 12:34 am #473797

Rooster Cogburn wrote:I stand by my statement that he should and will get one more year. 9 New players, 1 left unexpectedly, 2 top players out, time left in contract, LU guy, etc.

I would also not be shocked if he's gone at the end of the year.

If he'd had a 20 win instead of a 20 loss season last year you'd be on to something.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473799

By Rooster Cogburn - January 11th, 2015, 12:41 am

- January 11th, 2015, 12:41 am #473799

Wait, I'm not a writer, I'm a fan. Credibility? On a message board? Please. I have an opinion just like you. If this was Matt Doherty, maybe I'm close to the mob mentality. It's not.

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Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473801

By bluejacket - January 11th, 2015, 12:48 am

- January 11th, 2015, 12:48 am #473801

Rooster Cogburn wrote:I stand by my statement that he should and will get one more year. 9 New players, 1 left unexpectedly, 2 top players out, time left in contract, LU guy, etc.

I would also not be shocked if he's gone at the end of the year.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473802

By rhezick - January 11th, 2015, 1:43 am

- January 11th, 2015, 1:43 am #473802

Rooster Cogburn wrote:Wait, I'm not a writer, I'm a fan. Credibility? On a message board? Please. I have an opinion just like you. If this was Matt Doherty, maybe I'm close to the mob mentality. It's not.

Agreed. Kind of the reason I feel like there's not more new people on this board. As a long time lurker (8 years), it wasn't until recently I actually created an account for this reason. Geez, rooster's just citing his opinion. Seems like there's a crap load of personal stuff going on around this board...maybe it's Liberty politics or some stupid crap I don't understand. Or maybe this is how forums say "hi." Either way, I hope his opinion credentials aren't revoked.

And put lipstick on a pig all you want...this season is over, so who cares if the guy stays. He took us to our obligatory once a decade tourney appearance. The basketball program won't be magically changing for the better anytime soon. Let's talk relevance again by 2024.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473803

By Purple Haize - January 11th, 2015, 1:48 am

- January 11th, 2015, 1:48 am #473803

rhezick wrote:
Rooster Cogburn wrote:Wait, I'm not a writer, I'm a fan. Credibility? On a message board? Please. I have an opinion just like you. If this was Matt Doherty, maybe I'm close to the mob mentality. It's not.
Agreed. Kind of the reason I feel like there's not more new people on this board. As a long time lurker (8 years), it wasn't until recently I actually created an account for this reason. Geez, rooster's just citing his opinion. Seems like there's a crap load of personal stuff going on around this board...maybe it's Liberty politics or some stupid crap I don't understand. Or maybe this is how forums say "hi." Either way, I hope his opinion credentials aren't revoked.

And put lipstick on a pig all you want...this season is over, so who cares if the guy stays. He took us to our obligatory once a decade tourney appearance. The basketball program won't be magically changing for the better anytime soon. Let's talk relevance again by 2024.

Thin skin makes for a challenging message board existence. Rooster can post all he wants. I'm sure he's a big enough boy to defend himself. Seems to be making a good effort at it.

Re: When Should we Fire Layer?#473804

By Rooster Cogburn - January 11th, 2015, 2:02 am

- January 11th, 2015, 2:02 am #473804

I will agree that there would have been several more posters on my side just a few short years ago. So much negativity scares away those with less thick skin than I have. Thus so few active posters. I also think its funny that some seem to toss the homer cool ade thing at me like an insult. I take it as a complement for a dedicated fan.

Again, far from perfect and extremely disappointing, but I believe it could set the program back even further to turn coach layer loose.

Alas, it's only an opinion and not my decision to make.

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