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#428933
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013 ... tian-Faith
The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”.
Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.
So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)--whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.
This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.
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#428948
I could understand this if a religious faith was being "forced" onto people, but is that really a problem? To punish a person for sharing faith in between friends of the same faith is just absurd. This appears to run completely counter to one of the tenants this country was founded on - freedom of religion.
By thepostman
#429055
There is prayer before most military ceremonies so I wonder if that could go away. Honestly, I am shocked it has stayed around so long. I am confused as to what the point of having a chaplaincy really is going to be. I guess since they provide the only completely confidential counseling within the military...they have that going for them....
#429075
Clarification.

http://www.stripes.com/news/pentagon-ok ... s-1.219261
It’s OK to evangelize. But it’s not OK to proselytize.

That’s what the Pentagon said Thursday, attempting to clarify its position on religious speech in uniform as controversy swirled up around press reports over possible prosecutions of troops for sharing their faith.

What it comes down to, officials said, is that discussing matters of faith and religious practice with a willing audience is allowed, but pushing religious beliefs on those who don’t want to hear it is a form of harassment forbidden under Defense Department policies.

“Service members can share their faith (evangelize), but must not force unwanted, intrusive attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one’s beliefs (proselytization),” Pentagon spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen said in a written statement.
#429114
At some point there needs to be a permanent distancing of Christians from garbage like Breitbart, Limbaugh, etc. whose clear purpose is nothing but paranoid fear mongering that isn't based in anything that even slightly resembles reality.
#429115
NotAJerry wrote:At some point there needs to be a permanent distancing of Christians from garbage like Breitbart, Limbaugh, etc. whose clear purpose is nothing but paranoid fear mongering that isn't based in anything that even slightly resembles reality.
Really? And embrace MSNBC and MotherJones!
#429116
Purple Haize wrote:
NotAJerry wrote:At some point there needs to be a permanent distancing of Christians from garbage like Breitbart, Limbaugh, etc. whose clear purpose is nothing but paranoid fear mongering that isn't based in anything that even slightly resembles reality.
Really? And embrace MSNBC and MotherJones!
Nope, remember, Al-Jazzera and BBC are the best. We all know they aren't biased... at all...

Disclaimer: Al-Jazzera has great sports programming though.
#429119
NotAJerry wrote:At some point there needs to be a permanent distancing of Christians from garbage like Breitbart, Limbaugh, etc. whose clear purpose is nothing but paranoid fear mongering that isn't based in anything that even slightly resembles reality.
Keep your head in the sand.
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