[districtballer]

According to Newsday today it looks like the CAA and Stony Brook are in talks and that SB might join the CAA as soon as June. They provide a natural rival to Hofstra in NY and have a burgeoning football program with very little competition at its level in it's geographical region.

I don't know if there is anything to it, but if they do join it will make it much easier for Liberty to get to the playoffs next year.

[Purple Haize]

I'd like to read the article since Hofstra doesn't have football anymore. And if SB left the BSC would probably lose their Auto Bid

[Cider Jim]

if they do join it will make it much easier for Liberty to get to the playoffs next year.

+1

[districtballer]

I'd like to read the article since Hofstra doesn't have football anymore. And if SB left the BSC would probably lose their Auto Bid

The inference is that SB would join for all sports. Hofstra has been vocal about the CAA being southern-dominated and complained about not having enough attention paid to the northern teams in the past. I haven't read the article myself but there is a thread about it on the William & Mary boards.

[seawolf]

Where did you see this? I can't find it.

[bradyfan]

I'd like to read the article since Hofstra doesn't have football anymore. And if SB left the BSC would probably lose their Auto Bid

+1. I really think that if SB is out of the BS, we'll be soon to follow, despite whether we receive an offer from a FBS conference.

[Chris Lang]

Big South would not lose its auto bid. Presbyterian becoming fully DI eligible next year gives the Big South six eligible teams, just like it has the last two years.

[Purple Haize]

Big South would not lose its auto bid. Presbyterian becoming fully DI eligible next year gives the Big South six eligible teams, just like it has the last two years.

This is why you are the highly trained professional that you are!

[BJWilliams]

The conference may lose a bit of Q-rating but Lang is spot on as usual.

[jbock13]

Who really cares? Maybe if SB leaves we'll actually make it to the playoffs!

[Sly Fox]

I can't find anything on Newsday website but here is what districtballer was referencing over on the CAA board:

http://boards.caazone.com/showthread.ph ... ook-to-CAA

I'm just not buying it unless it is a fallback plan if ODU & JMU bolt to the FBS ranks.

[RVAparks]

I told y'all this earlier in another thread this morning. The CAA is looking at Fordham and Stony Brook to supplement the loss of football schools in the northeast.

Also as I said this summer if the CAA decides to expand in the south (unlikely). Coastal and Kennesaw State are way more likely to get a call than Liberty. There's been some chatter regarding George Washington also, but the A10-CAA showdown is still on the backburner until realignment shakes out.

[Purple Haize]

Thanks for raining on the parade poopy pants!

[RVAparks]

Thanks for raining on the parade poopy pants!

haha sorry... Charleston and Charlotte would also get a call before Liberty. Just reality. I think FBS aspirations are a lot more realistic for Liberty than the CAA.

[bluedevilflame]

Nah nah nah nah....nah nah nah nah...hey hey hey GOODBYE!!

[jcmanson]

Thanks for raining on the parade poopy pants!

haha sorry... Charleston and Charlotte would also get a call before Liberty. Just reality. I think FBS aspirations are a lot more realistic for Liberty than the CAA.

Charlotte has already rejected the CAA's offer for full membership. So there goes that theory...

[phoenix]

Thanks for raining on the parade poopy pants!

haha sorry... Charleston and Charlotte would also get a call before Liberty. Just reality. I think FBS aspirations are a lot more realistic for Liberty than the CAA.

Charlotte has already rejected the CAA's offer for full membership. So there goes that theory...

But you proved his point. They got the call before Liberty -- they just chose not to answer it.

[jcmanson]

But you proved his point. They got the call before Liberty -- they just chose not to answer it.

Of course Charlotte would get the call before us, why wouldn't they? The CAA would call hundreds of schools before us, but that doesn't mean that school will "answer" it. When you get down to the number of schools who will actually "answer" the call, we're right in the mix.

[RVAparks]

Thanks for raining on the parade poopy pants!

haha sorry... Charleston and Charlotte would also get a call before Liberty. Just reality. I think FBS aspirations are a lot more realistic for Liberty than the CAA.

Charlotte has already rejected the CAA's offer for full membership. So there goes that theory...

That theory isn't totally shot at all. Depending on how realignment shakes out with Big East, CUSA, etc... the landscape of the CAA and A10 could be changed considerably. Just b/c the CAA was turned down once doesn't mean they won't come knocking again. Hofstra is a major player right now and could stay with the CAA or move to the A10, their president met with GW, Boston U., Charlotte, and Richmond a couple months ago about joining the CAA. If the CAA grabs some A10 schools then Charlotte could follow, but the A10 could just as easily grab VCU, GMU, or ODU.

[RVAparks]

Manson's point remains true though. There are without a doubt plenty of schools the CAA would prefer over us in the current format they have. That doesn't mean those schools will play ball. The CAA is trying to save the northern division and compete with the A-10. A year ago when I got info that the CAA was scoping Liberty, it appeared the north was all but dead with Villanova, Maine, and Nee Hampshire all having football issues of varying type, and Northeastern & Hofstra in talks with other conferences as well. The landscape continues to change. RVAparks wants to make it much more cut and dry than it is. I'm not exactly sure why. I'm sure I will get a PM about it though.

It is cut and dry. At this point in time the CAA has little to no interest in Liberty. It sucks, but it's the truth. Liberty is at the bottom of a long list that they would call, or may not be on the list at all. The CAA's two main objectives right now are further developing the northeast, and appeasing UNCW by finding them a traveling partner they've been clamoring for for years.

The college landscape is obviously very amorphous right now and will continue to change. If you're Charlotte's AD then why would you commit to the CAA at this point? By the time you get football going and begin conference play, the conference may look totally different.

[gobluehose]

I'd like to read the article since Hofstra doesn't have football anymore. And if SB left the BSC would probably lose their Auto Bid

+1. I really think that if SB is out of the BS, we'll be soon to follow, despite whether we receive an offer from a FBS conference.

per new NCAA rules, Liberty needs a standing offer from an FBS conference before starting the process of reclassification.

[BJWilliams]

I think cj is saying that we are gonna end up in another conference if Stony Brook leaves for the CAA (even if its another FCS conference)

[RVAparks]

I don't really understand what the long term plan is for the Big South. It seems like they are one of the few conferences being "preemptive" these days. They have to see that a departure by Liberty and Coastal is imminent in the next 5 years. Then what are they left with 4 football schools? The Atlantic Sun passing them by? I just don't get it. I could see some ASun schools bolting to the OVC and maybe a potential "merge" of the Big South and ASun (cart, horse). These are all just very confusing times, haha.

I've also heard some grumblings about Radford bolting to the Atlantic Sun.

[bradyfan]

I think cj is saying that we are gonna end up in another conference if Stony Brook leaves for the CAA (even if its another FCS conference)

That's exactly what I'm saying. I feel pretty confident that everyone would realize that we're above the Big South, especially without SB. If we don't get an invite by an FBS conference, I still think our days in the BS are numbered. I know everyone wants to get into the CAA but what about SoCon? I have no idea as to if they're expanding anytime soon or not. However, with the departure of AppSt. and possibly Georgia Southern in the future, it's hard to see them stay put.

I've also heard some grumblings about Radford bolting to the Atlantic Sun.

They've been saying that for about the last 6 or 7 years.

[RVAparks]

It would be interesting to see what the SoCon would do, they've been one of the more stable conferences recently. You mentioned GaSo and Appy St, but there have also been some rumors of UT-Chattanooga moving to the OVC and Charleston to the CAA (which I doubt).

My guess would be that the SoCon would reach out to Coastal before Liberty (pure speculation). Or maybe the North Carolina Big South schools would be more in play b/c of geography also?