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By aredd33
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#328174
I feel like throwing up. I'm legitmately in pain right now.
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By flamesfan30
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#328175
I love liberty football. even though we seem to always be just not good enough, no matter what. on the verge every year, and then it seems we find a way to lose. but this is my school and they are my football team.

im sick of false hope and a overrated football team. losses like this, are why students leave at half. whenever we do believe we get spurned. its not just the football team. its the whole culture here, we got hyped for the elections, came close and lost. we always think we are more important that we are. we are arrogant, and perhaps this is God humbling us, saying to trust him i stead of trying everything on our own.

or, most likely, its just football, and im just frustrated.
By slickus23
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#328177
Sly Fox wrote:Bring your analysis and frustration here.

:banghead

When does frustration turn into something you expect?
By phoenix
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#328182
At some point every season, we fail to live up to our hype. Today was that day this season.

We didn't show up to play. The playcalling was poor, the execution was poor, the special teams were not where they should be (except Bevins). Coastal was ready for us -- they saw something in the game film and exploited it, and we either couldn't or wouldn't correct at halftime.

Coastal wanted it more than we did. Plain and simple. And we've shown everybody in the FCS just how overrated we are. We've cruised this far because our opponents were a lot worse than we are, but Coastal isn't. They played a full game for possibly the first time all season and embarrassed us.

We need to fix the defense before next week, or this could happen to us again.
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By ToTheLeft
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#328183
phoenix wrote:At some point every season, we fail to live up to our hype. Today was that day this season.

We didn't show up to play. The playcalling was poor, the execution was poor, the special teams were not where they should be (except Bevins). Coastal was ready for us -- they saw something in the game film and exploited it, and we either couldn't or wouldn't correct at halftime.

Coastal wanted it more than we did. Plain and simple. And we've shown everybody in the FCS just how overrated we are. We've cruised this far because our opponents were a lot worse than we are, but Coastal isn't. They played a full game for possibly the first time all season and embarrassed us.

We need to fix the defense before next week, or this could happen to us again.
And there's nothing to make me think we'll improve the defense. So I can see it happening again.
By slickus23
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#328184
slickus23 wrote:
Sly Fox wrote:Bring your analysis and frustration here.

:banghead

When does frustration turn into something you expect?
and i mean that with the uttermost respect by the way. It's just year after year you see what this team can be on the positive side, and then what they also can be from the negative side. Defense didn't even bother today. The question is why didn't they? After playing so well lately and putting a lot of pressure on the quarterback we didn't really try until we had nothing to lose. If this team is to ever make the next step it's gotta be the defense that delivers. There's something to be said about having a defense week in and week out that keeps you in ball games. They didn't stop coastal at all. All we saw differently in the second half was missed field goals and conservative play calling until we got a little closer. You have to have a defense to compete.
By truedrewdawg87
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#328186
I think this is also God telling us to focus on being successful where He currently has us and to stay where we are and forget day dreaming about the FBS. elite FCS schools don't lose to Robert Morris and Coastal.
By phoenix
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truedrewdawg87 wrote:I think this is also God telling us to focus on being successful where He currently has us and to stay where we are and forget day dreaming about the FBS. elite FCS schools don't lose to Robert Morris and Coastal.
Or is it Satan trying to discourage us from doing what God wants us to do?

Or is it a football team not performing up to their potential in key games, the way it has been for a few years now?

I pick C.
By slickus23
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#328193
Their QB is a good player for this conference, but he wasn't that impressive against teams that are legit giving his 12 td and 12 int's coming into this game. We just made him look like Joe Montana.
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By Sly Fox
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It is a rare team that has it all together every week. We clearly are not that team yet. Then again, could someone please point out who those teams are right now? There is simply more parity in FCS (and apparently the Big South) than we care to admit.

And for the record, while this was a devastating loss there are still scenarios that could yield us the automatic bid. There is no question that it is a longshot, but it is not completely ridiculous to consider heading into the regular season finale next Saturday at Williams Stadium.
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By Sly Fox
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slickus23 wrote:Their QB is a good player for this conference, but he wasn't that impressive against teams that are legit giving his 12 td and 12 int's coming into this game. We just made him look like Joe Montana.
I agree completely. They are senior-laden at the skill positions on both sides of the ball and played like it today. I think most in Conway are as stunned at today's events as we are. Now they have to shift gears and cheer us on if they want to have any shot at the postseason.
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By ToTheLeft
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#328197
Oh yeah, I forgot.

YAY LIBERTY! YAY YAY! Hoorah! We won a few games this year! Yay!

Give me a break.
By Del Flame
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#328200
On the post-game show, Coach Rocco just said that he doubts that Chris Summers will be able to play next week.
By slickus23
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#328204
Del Flame wrote:On the post-game show, Coach Rocco just said that he doubts that Chris Summers will be able to play next week.

It looked like a nasty injury....
By Del Flame
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#328206
I just read Chris Lang's tweet and he said it's a high ankle sprain. I was concerned that it was even worse (not that a high ankle sprain isn't serious).
By truedrewdawg87
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#328207
Phoenix, your "reason C" is enough in itself to think moving up ANY time in the near future is RIDICULOUS. There isn't one good FBS team that Liberty could be right now. Liberty hasn't been to the playoffs, won a playoff game or a national championship. This team has a track record of losing important games late in the season or losing to lesser opponents (Presbyterian, Robert Morris, Coastal). Sure, all of that definitely sounds like a team that should consider up move up with the big boys.
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By Schfourteenteen
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#328208
truedrewdawg87 wrote:Phoenix, your "reason C" is enough in itself to think moving up ANY time in the near future is RIDICULOUS. There isn't one good FBS team that Liberty could be right now. Liberty hasn't been to the playoffs, won a playoff game or a national championship. This team has a track record of losing important games late in the season or losing to lesser opponents (Presbyterian, Robert Morris, Coastal). Sure, all of that definitely sounds like a team that should consider up move up with the big boys.
On the field success at the I-FCS level has little to do with FBS viability. Regardless if it was Montana moving up or Presbyterian, there will always be growing pains on the field in years 1-3. Success at the FBS level depends on the amount of funding you can put in a program over time.
By truedrewdawg87
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So, you're telling me that a program's current success shouldn't factor AT ALL into the decision to move up? That is RIDICULOUS!!! If you're above average at best at your current level (which Liberty is) what reason do you have to believe you'll be successful against better competition and that the "growing pains" you speak of won't take longer than 1-3 years? I'll never understand the FBS talk among Liberty fans. Liberty has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to make any rational person think moving up is a good idea.
By jenkins
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it has very little to do with...see UConn for a good example.
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By Sly Fox
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It is apples to oranges, truedrewdawg87. And as we saw against Ball State earlier this year, the gap to lower level FBS is not very significant at all.

As for this game, I am going to let it breathe for a bit before I release my analysis. That way I won't regret things typed in the morning.
By truedrewdawg87
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I still haven't seen on the field or has any given me a reason to think why Liberty would be successful if it moved up? The Flames can't beat teams they should beat, let a lone make the playoffs. I don't want to see the school I got my degree from move up just to move up. I want the school I got my degree from to win national championships not just one national championship. That dream is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more realistic at the FCS level. I would rather compete for national championships than to think a 6-6 season on the FBS level and an appearance is some afterthought bowl game is "success."
By rogers3
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Our offense, being one-dimensional, is unlikely to be able to hold together after 9 or 10 games. Brown got dinged last game, Summers sounds like he is out. Had Davis panned out, we'd be looking at a different season. On to next year, most likely. If we win over SB, don't we still most likely lose the tiebreaker since Coastal ran it up on us? How about that 2nd and goal from the 2. Did we expect Holloway to punch it in from the 2? Rashad, yes- Sir Chauncey, No.
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By Schfourteenteen
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truedrewdawg87 wrote:So, you're telling me that a program's current success shouldn't factor AT ALL into the decision to move up? That is RIDICULOUS!!! If you're above average at best at your current level (which Liberty is) what reason do you have to believe you'll be successful against better competition and that the "growing pains" you speak of won't take longer than 1-3 years? I'll never understand the FBS talk among Liberty fans. Liberty has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to make any rational person think moving up is a good idea.
It's certainly not at the top of the list. $$$, Facilities, and Conference Affiliation are much more important to long term FBS success than how good the team is before they move up. See Montana. That is RIDICULOUS!!!
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