ALUmnus wrote:ATrain wrote:The reality is, not every kid is going to have a married mom and dad. It would be better for a child to be in a stable household of two moms or two dads who are perfectly capable of raising a happy, healthy child rather than an unstable one of a single parent who has no business having one child (let alone 4, 5, 6, 7 etc...) or stuck in the foster care system for most/all of their childhood.
Yes, there is that reality. And the examples you gave at the end of the quote are all too prevalent. I know, my wife works with these parents/kids every day. But at the same time, you're constructing a straw-man. Look, I know you don't agree, and this is not a personal attack on you, but a legal structure that creates a family out of a same-sex couple is inherently unstable. That does not mean it never "works", I'm not saying that. But you're creating a situation that excludes a mother or a father. That's not good.
Single-parent households and orphans are heart-breaking tragedies. In every case, the causes are evil: abuse, abandonment, neglect, death, drugs, alcoholism, promiscuity, kidnapping, the list goes on and on. So to use that as a comparison to how good a same-sex household is just isn't balanced. No one would say those situations are good. But to say part of the solution is placing a kid in another situation that denies them a mom or dad? That doesn't make sense. However, now, because of the courts, that argument is bigoted.
I find it odd that I have to defend this on a Liberty message board, even though I'm confident it's the majority opinion, not just on this board but across the country. Site whatever poll you want, I don't put much stock in most polls. Now is a time when we really need to think about things deeply, and know what we believe and why we believe it.
And I see the counseling records of parents/kids like the ones your wife works with everyday. Abused, neglected, harmed across every spectrum of their existence (physical, emotional, spiritual, etc...).
You are completely missing my point and also missed Adam's point earlier as well. IF a kid is abandoned by one or more parents, and there are no ABLE and WILLING married heterosexual couples for that child to be raised by, wouldn't it be better that they have two dads or two moms rather than being bounced around the foster care system until they're 18 or placed into a questionable situation? I'm not advocating that we be given first dibs to the adoption system.
And as for stability, my household is very stable, thank you. I know many same-sex couples in loving, committed relationships that are quite stable as well.
4:28:2009-RIP Jeff Taylor
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right